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[pmbabu]

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Boom boom? lol

#1 - The ref 6012i has been discontinued in favour of the 6022i. A comparo is incorrect, because they are at the same proce and the 6022i is an evolved 6012i.

#2 - I personally find the 6022i to be a fantastic evolution and soundwise it is superior to the 6012. NNavin has modified the crossovers to his taste, something that the average listener would not be able to do.

#3 for NHC, the direct fit for the rear is 6" circular.

Sam, thank you so much for your response!

I am not planning to go for a SUB or AMP; so does it make sense to go for Ref9613i or GTO937 (by doing small alterations) to get better BASS? Also is it OK to have Infinity Ref in the front and GTO in the rear?

BTW, I would like to use your identity to get a good price at Bangalore. Hope you don't mind that!

[Sam Kapasi]

Originally Posted by pmbabu

Sam, thank you so much for your response!

I am not planning to go for a SUB or AMP; so does it make sense to go for Ref9613i or GTO937 (by doing small alterations) to get better BASS? Also is it OK to have Infinity Ref in the front and GTO in the rear?

BTW, I would like to use your identity to get a good price at Bangalore. Hope you don't mind that!

A 6X9 may give you that mid bass and slight bass whack that a 6" coaxial may not. Be prepared to trim some metal though.

Nothing wrong with doing that, but the quality of mids and highs coming from the rear and front will be very different.
In any case you will have faded to the front compos, so it doesn't matter too much, but why don't you get matching 6X9's, atleast you'll have a similar sonic signature through the car.

[pmbabu]

Sam, thanks! I will stick to the same brand for both front and rear. (I thought so earlier too; but wanted to check with you once.)

Metal trim for a 6x9? I think then that will be a no-no. Thanks again.

Regards,
Babu

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

I hate say but these are fake Pioneers. I would not use them but if you like there sound nothing like it....

Thank you!

Actually, was lying unused till i found it today morning. Thought 'd use it if it were any good. Guess it has to go back into the shelf again.

[reignofchaos]

How good are Streetwires wiring kits? Specifically this one...

StreetWires PSK04BM Multi-amp Wiring Kit 4-gauge kit without patch cables Blue power/silver ground at Crutchfield.com

I'm thinking of picking up my sub woofer amp in the US. There's a 50% off on any wiring kits made by either rockford or streetwires. Would like the opinion of folks here about the quality of either. Picking up the Infinity Reference 1600a Sub amplifier for 250$

[low_bass_makker]

Originally Posted by reignofchaos

How good are Streetwires wiring kits? Specifically this one...

StreetWires PSK04BM Multi-amp Wiring Kit 4-gauge kit without patch cables Blue power/silver ground at Crutchfield.com

it is very expensive for a $120 = approx 5000 buck, for a power wire is way to expensive.

[reignofchaos]

After a 50% discount, price drops to 60... then how good is it for the price?

[Sam Kapasi]

$60 for a 4 gauge power kit is not some crazy deal. You will get better brands for the same price here in India.

$250 for the ref1600a is a very decent deal. Pls bring it carefully and I hope you don't have to pay duty.

[Dhar's]

Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

it is very expensive for a $120 = approx 5000 buck, for a power wire is way to expensive.

How about Rs. 5K for Monster 300BAP1000 Multi amp wiring kit?
Is it worth?

[navin]

Originally Posted by pmbabu

#1: From a listener p.o.v, how does Infinity Ref6012i and Ref6022i differ? The difference from specs. say impendance for 6022i is 2ohms and that of 6012i is 4ohms. The other (minor?) difference is sensitivity: 6012i is 92dB and 6022i is 94dB

#2: Navin sir, you have chosen 6012i for your Mom's car. You have mentioned something about loudness in other posts. Can you please throw more light on the same?

#3: For NHC, is Ref9613i (6x9 co-axials) a direct fit for the rear? Or should I stick to only 6 1/2" models?

1. the 6022 has replace teh 6012. the real impedance of the 6022 is 3 ohms the rest is marketing. just use them 6022 ok?

2. correction I think they put 6022 in my mom's car not 6012. i have no idea what part of "loudness" you are refering to. pardon my senility but I need a refresh-reboot for my memory so if you give me a quote or a link I would be happy to explain further. When I was born I was like a Univac/Cray as I got older I have become more like a Wintel PC (constant need of Crtil-Alt- Del).

3. The 9613 can fit with minimum metal cutting however if you are getting a subwoofer I dont see any need for a 6x9.

[Dhar's]

Originally Posted by navin

dont worry about the voltmeter but the battery test is a good one to do.

@ Navnji,
Yesterday finally I tried the battery test. Nothing! No pop.
I checked for the movement. No obstructions.
So disassembled the woofer from the box. Checked the tinsel wires. Visually all are connected well.



Also i found that there was no infill inside the box.

What is the trade name for polyfill? Can I use geotextile filter fabric (which is used in civil-mechanical work) for the same? What thickness should I maintain?

[navin]

Originally Posted by Dhar's

@ Navnji,
Yesterday finally I tried the battery test. Nothing! No pop.
What is the trade name for polyfill? Can I use geotextile filter fabric (which is used in civil-mechanical work) for the same? What thickness should I maintain?

no pop? you mean to say that when you connected the battery to the woofer the cone did NOT move?
Ouch! that does man that your speaker is damanged. You now need a multimeter to make sure.

[Dhar's]

Originally Posted by navin

no pop? you mean to say that when you connected the battery to the woofer the cone did NOT move?
Ouch! that does man that your speaker is damanged. You now need a multimeter to make sure.

Yes. When connected battery to the woofer, the cone did not move. I shall try get a multimeter and check further.

[ashbel]

Hi, I recently purchased a DVH P4950MP Pioneer DVD player. Not sure if the guy who fit this did a good job. This is connected to a JBL Amp with a JBL 1000 W Tube in the trunk and 5 way coaxial rear speakers, 2 Front Door Speakers and two tweeters in the front glass. the car is a brand new Logan Renault. Does anyone have the manual for the wiring for this set of audio devices? Or if someone can suggest the best wiring for this, I am game to try it.
thanks

[pmbabu]

Originally Posted by navin

1. the 6022 has replace teh 6012. the real impedance of the 6022 is 3 ohms the rest is marketing. just use them 6022 ok?

2. correction I think they put 6022 in my mom's car not 6012. i have no idea what part of "loudness" you are refering to. pardon my senility but I need a refresh-reboot for my memory so if you give me a quote or a link I would be happy to explain further. When I was born I was like a Univac/Cray as I got older I have become more like a Wintel PC (constant need of Crtil-Alt- Del).

3. The 9613 can fit with minimum metal cutting however if you are getting a subwoofer I dont see any need for a 6x9.

Navin, Sam, LBM,

Thanks for all your inputs. I got myself Infinity Ref 6022cs components in the Front and Infinity Ref 9623i for the Rear.

Believe me, the music all around the car is just too good to listen to and I can vouch that without inputs from TBHP, would have installed those red colored poor ones!

BTW, there was no need to cut the metal to fix the 6x9 in my NHC Gxi; Sound Factor in Bangalore installed them with just a spacer. (I checked in a NHC VTEC which also came for a small install; that car had a 6 incher too with the same spacer).

One thing that I wasn't (and still am not) sure is whether I got a good deal. I just got a little over 10% OFF on MRP for both the set of speakers; but the install was FREE of cost. (I just tipped the installers. Anyone will do it seeing their professionalism.)