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[aseem]

Originally Posted by pranil

Dear Sam/Navin/ Aseem

Now I am Slightly confused.

Basically I have three scenarios finalized for my getz

Pioneer 7750 HU ( I would love to have WMA/AAC and match the HU blue to my Getz)-

Scenarios
1. Front and rear JBL GTO 636e mounted in factory locations as suggested by SAM

2. Front Components JBL GTO 606C and rear JBL 636E ( or shoud I get something cheaper for only fill)

3. Somebody suggested I use the components in back and only coaxials in front. I have no idea how that will sound.


So my question is which is the best setup. - Specailly my question is to Aseem who is using components in front and coaxials in rear.


And ples. do remember no ampliers or bass box/tube purchase plans atleast for next three years( till I repay the car loan)

Thanx a lot.

By the way pls. sugesst any good place in Navi Mumbai or pune to get this done. I will be getting delivery next week.

Pranil, most people in India don't know about component speakers. 80% of normal car accessories shop dont house them. So the most normal setup that all regular non audio buffs recommend is some cheap speaker in front and ovals at the rear. This is the setup I have on my esteem. This makes the music mono-aural and unbalanced. It seems the music is blaring from the back where the fronts are too shrill and have no bass.
If you ask any audio expert they will ask you a simple question... where do you sit when in your car? Do you self drive, or do you have a chauffer. Since most of us drive, its common sense to have your best music coming from the front and the fillers at the back. This is what I have in my Swift with components in the front and the coaxials at the back. Believe me, I love my music in Swift. Its not dhoom dhoom like the Esteem, but one for a change can really enjoy his music. Rest, I strongly recommend going for an Sony 504Z amplifier for 3.9k. This is really neccesary if you have components and a decent HU. Even if you dont go for a woofer, just go for this, you wont regret it. Cheap subs are available at 3k in a box onwards from Sony.
Given the choice if on a budget this is what I would do:
GTO 636 front and back : 7k
Sony 504Z 4 channel amp: 3.9k
Subwoofer in a box: 3k
Wires: 0.5k
And if budget can be stretched:
Decent components at the front: 6k
GTO 636 in the rear: 3.5k
Sony 504Z: 3.9k
Wires: 0.5k
Make a pick.

[revtech]

ok this may sound dumb but can some one please help me out
the Power Handling for the jbl gto 936e is : 300W Peak / 100W RMS

so whats 100 W and whats 300 w.dont say the normal is 100 with a peak of 300w .i know that .what i want to know is whats the reason behind writing two differnt figures.


Rev

[pranil]

Originally Posted by revtech

ok this may sound dumb but can some one please help me out
the Power Handling for the jbl gto 936e is : 300W Peak / 100W RMS

so whats 100 W and whats 300 w.dont say the normal is 100 with a peak of 300w .i know that .what i want to know is whats the reason behind writing two differnt figures.


Rev

Simple in Laymans terms- Ignore 300w peak - no so important

100 W RMS9 Root m,ean sqaure) max continuous power the speaker can output without blowing itself up.

[pranil]

[quote=aseem]
1. If you ask any audio expert they will ask you a simple question... where do you sit when in your car? Do you self drive,

2. This is what I have in my Swift with components in the front and the coaxials at the back.

3. Rest, I strongly recommend going for an Sony 504Z amplifier for 3.9k. This is really neccesary if you have components and a decent HU.



Dear Aseem,


1. Of course Self drive- OCassional trip my wife will drive but that ok. I am sleeping that time

2. Did you try out both Triaxials setup. I beleive GTO636e tweeters also are directional and can be oriented to change the soundstage ( www.Audiofx.com)

3. I am really thinking no about Comps and ampli because of the pricve and also because of the messy wiring.

Recommend me a nice feloow who can do it and hide everything ( Amplifier /crossover) and I might go for it.
At the Same time I might take up as DIY job. U see I am an electriucal engineer used to project installation( I even installed my AC myself - and I mean the window aluminium brackets etc and not just wiring and plugging in the plug)

I had a Alpine HU with amplifier in my Toyota Carina in Sri Lanka and everything was messy with crossovers in door shelfes and amps under the seat.


I am not that crazy about the music.

I hust want a decent sound from my FM and MP3/WMA ripped from CD at 128KBPS.


No need to spend more if I am not going to use it.



OH and most important part - My office is 5 minutes from Home by car. So listening to my music only on weekends

[Sam Kapasi]

Originally Posted by k_ajay

Sam, I met sridhar today. I told him that i was planning to get the Belden wires for the speakers but he said that it might not be required since I wasn't going for a sub and those quality wires are mostly required specially for the subs, and that JBl speakers do come with excellent wires for fitment.

Whats your take on this... If your saying that it for sure is needed to make the speakers [compos+ovals] sound excellent, i'm getting them no matter what. Just wanted to cross check once again.

I hope you don't mind... Sorry

AK

The wires we supply are decent. The belden will sound marginally better, dont forget you're in a moving car. Sridhars advice isnt wrong, it's not really necessary. If you're super fussy about sound, then it is.

[Sam Kapasi]

Originally Posted by Vivekphadnis

Sam, I know I am bugging you but I am not able to find the battery wire. Do I connect this HU in parallel with the Autocop unit? Please tell me something. I really want to do this myself.

You arent bugging me Vivek, not in the least,
All marutis have a single 3 point wire harness carrying the ignition (white with black stripe), illumination (red with yellow stripe) and battery (Pure white)
Use a meter, find a thickish wire thats white and make sure the 12V is on regardless of key position. Make sure you dont use any of the thinner wires as the entire current load of the deck is actually on that battery wire (The ignition is used as a trigger on/off)

[Sam Kapasi]

Originally Posted by pranil

1. Of course Self drive- OCassional trip my wife will drive but that ok. I am sleeping that time

2. Did you try out both Triaxials setup. I beleive GTO636e tweeters also are directional and can be oriented to change the soundstage ( www.Audiofx.com)

3. I am really thinking no about Comps and ampli because of the pricve and also because of the messy wiring.

Hey!
Ok Sorry but I'm just butting in for a moment.

The GTO636e tweeters are at an angle. The tweeters themselves are fixed but at an angle so if you rotate the speaker while mounting, you can direct the tweeter towrds you.
The website is www.fxaudio.com, lol i think you had it backwards there.

From the looks of things, your tastes and the fact that work is 5 mins away, i suggest you just mount 2 prs 636e. Least messy and very few people can screw up the fitting.

Now comes the really useful part lol
Vashi/ Navi Mumbai: You can call Mr. Yogesh Uppal from "BM Auto" they are a very decent accessory dealership, with some decent installers. 9821677077

Pune: There is a father/son team of audiophiles called the "Bhagats" though they have no store, Sumit really is the most enthusiastic installer there is. They carry stock and operate out of their bungalow in pune. Sumit is a JBL fanatic BTW They also do home audio/home theatre and sell monster cable etc
You can call 9890115001/ 9822607684/ 020-26121205

You can install it yourself, its not a big deal. Fitting the deck, well take a look at what vivek's going through right now.
Plus, though connecting the speakers is not a big deal, sometimes an inexperienced removal of the door panels might result in a scratch or worse, a crack and a "bum self-kick"
I recommend you go to a professional for peace of mind.
If you still want to do it yourself, you can ask me further questions, no problem.

There you go... All questions answered

[xezas]

guys,

Once I get hold of a decent camera, I'll post pics of my 20k-25k+ (don't know the exact price yet) in-car audio system.

No sub-woofer(s), no amps, no component speakers.
Intrigued? well, wait for the pics...

[pingmepal]

Sam suggested ..... To give you an idea, I can tell you that
JBL front 5.25 - GTO526e is Rs 3250/pr
and rear GTO936e is Rs 4750/pr.........

Thanks for the phone number and suggestions. I visited their place, unfortunately they do not have stock of 526e. He is suggesting GTO 426e. (2500/- pair) Can I go for it with 936e combination?

thx

[Sam Kapasi]

what car are you fitting these speakers in ping?

[pingmepal]

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

what car are you fitting these speakers in ping?

Fiat Petra 1.6 ELX Petrol version (I could have entered simple Petra, but this board requires minimum of 20 characters :-))

[paharino1]

QUOTE (DEEPAK)
Siena 1.6 ELX - Need Advice
My car came with a Company fitted Kenwood KRC 389 - Cassette player with 6 Speakers ( 2 tweeters, 2 in front doors & 2 ovals in the rear).... 1yr on...looking for the following changes
1. MP3 CD Player
2. Tube Sub woofer
3. Amp..

What is recommended...?? Should i keep my existing set of 6 speakers & just add the tube sub + amp or a complete makeover ?
Budget is 12-15k..( maxxxxx)..

Options/advise most welcome..

cheers
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deepak
>>>>> Just completed Phase 1 - got the Sony 5510X Installed..
Regarding the Speakers still in some confusion..Tested out a Blaupaunkt 10" Tube with a Sony Amplifier...But the rear speakers ( company fitted 2 X 6 inches)..started Rattling..So the overall sound effect wasnt good..

So what do the experts recommend :
1. Shall I change the rear speakers...? What is recommended as 6" rear speakers ? JBL/ Boston/Alpine ?
2. Was suggested to have good 6X 9 ovals of JBL Installed - but that would mean cutting in the rear parcel tray..which i am somewhat sceptical about..

I still have 10k of my budget...yet to be spent..

[aseem]

Hi Ajay and All, I feel so dissapointed. Having gone for Sony 8800 for 14k, I just found out that a shop in JC road bangalore is selling Alpine 9830 for 12.5k with bill and warranty. Ajay if you have not already bought the system than buy it from JC road car market after the Lal Bagh road. This is not fair, as the Sony sound sucks in front of an Alpine :(

[aseem]

JBL components for 3.7k

[pranil]

Originally Posted by aseem

JBL components for 3.7k

Which ones and where???