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[navin]

Originally Posted by Bass&Trouble

Actually, I had no clue what Navin was saying there. I thought he got angry or something.

B&T in all these years have you ever seen me angry.

Originally Posted by clipto333

im born in a wrong country.
thought these MIT, wondercap are available in mumbai. dont order. acha BTW from where do you order these things?
navinji, what audio system do you currently have at home?
navinji speaking hindi.

I was born in India and the philips system I made was made in India using drivers that were available in India at the time. I order my caps to my BIL's place in Singapore. then once in a while (usually 18-20 months) when we visit I bring back what I need. since my baggage also must have room for my sons' and wife's stuff i am very selective. drivers however I improt directly. I have had no trouble (save paying of duties) when I import drivers. I just give very specific insructions to the shipper.

audio system: CD Player Phonosophie (based on 63KI with mods) with more mods. Alps pot and relay switching based home made pre amp, MOSfet amp made at home, speakers per channel woofers 2 x 12" made by Mike Dzurko of Audio Concepts, 2 x 8546 ScanSpeak, 1 x 9900 Scan Speak. but all this is going for upheaveal. prior to this I had 18" JBL 2245, 2 x Focal 8" 8N515 and a Morel MDT33 per channel powered by a Carver and a pair of Harmon Kardon 870 (the preamp was the 825).

[guyonblackybx]

Hi guys,
I am planing to get Palio Stile 1.6, can you suggest me some thing that would go well with car and what sud be min amount that i need to spend for a good audio system.

[navin]

Originally Posted by guyonblackybx

Hi guys,
I am planing to get Palio Stile 1.6, can you suggest me some thing that would go well with car and what sud be min amount that i need to spend for a good audio system.

minimum: HU: 4-5K Pio 2950 or Blau Mumbai or JVC (forgot model number).
front components: JBL's CS series 3.5-4K
rear coax: same as above 2.5-3K

low cost options:
amp: Pio 6200/6300, JBL 60.4, Blau GT4 etc: 6-8K
subwoofer: Pio 12", JBL GT4-12, etc.. 3.5-5.5K + 1K for box.

ofcourse, as you may have seen on this forum, the sky is the limit.

[clipto333]

Originally Posted by navin

B&T in all these years have you ever seen me angry.



I was born in India and the philips system I made was made in India using drivers that were available in India at the time. I order my caps to my BIL's place in Singapore. then once in a while (usually 18-20 months) when we visit I bring back what I need. since my baggage also must have room for my sons' and wife's stuff i am very selective. drivers however I improt directly. I have had no trouble (save paying of duties) when I import drivers. I just give very specific insructions to the shipper.

audio system: CD Player Phonosophie (based on 63KI with mods) with more mods. Alps pot and relay switching based home made pre amp, MOSfet amp made at home, speakers per channel woofers 2 x 12" made by Mike Dzurko of Audio Concepts, 2 x 8546 ScanSpeak, 1 x 9900 Scan Speak. but all this is going for upheaveal. prior to this I had 18" JBL 2245, 2 x Focal 8" 8N515 and a Morel MDT33 per channel powered by a Carver and a pair of Harmon Kardon 870 (the preamp was the 825).

ok...i sometimes feel im born in the wrong city. i belong to a city which respects diyers. i sometimes feel i should run away to bangy or mumbai. lol but think USA is a better place to run to.

navinji, cn you believe that trimmer caps aren't available here? the guy said we used to stock phillips trimmers but now we dont because there is no demand. im gonna light my city on fire.

when i visit mumbai, i will have a listen.


cheers
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[navin]

Originally Posted by clipto333

navinji, cn you believe that trimmer caps aren't available here? the guy said we used to stock phillips trimmers but now we dont because there is no demand. im gonna light my city on fire.

make a shooping list and send it to me so I can get all the stuff and you are not running around looking for stuff in teh few days you are here.

[clipto333]

Originally Posted by navin

make a shooping list and send it to me so I can get all the stuff and you are not running around looking for stuff in teh few days you are here.

hey, thanks alot navinji for the help. i really need it. i will pm you my shopping list when i come and im only coming for this very reason. i hope it will not be too much of a hassle for you otherwise you could just direct me to some nice stores where i can say navin like people say sam...lol "sam is a good friend" kidding lol

navinji, what were you saying in your earlier post? "raja kane ho toh clip ka kya hoga" ? didnt get you sorry.

navinji should i try replacing the caps on my infinity 6x9s to the ones i have? the one which i posted pis of? also i would like to remove the tweets and place it separately. is it possible? ill fix a dust cap or a phase plug on the midbass' cone.

and BTW whats a phase plug for?

are neo magnet available off the shelf?

also navinji remember i built a torroidal transvestite..oh sorry transformer lol, i have forgotter the no. of turns for the primary. the secondry has 32 turns and give out 22v. i there any way i can work out the ratio? or you do it for me? and can the amperage be calculated from the wire guage etc? like i for eg. i used a 19gauge primary and say a 15 gauge secondry, what would be the amperage? the dmm i have only tests dc amp. any solution?


cheers
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[navin]

Originally Posted by clipto333

i hope it will not be too much of a hassle ...navinji, what were you saying in your earlier post? "raja kane ho toh clip ka kya hoga" ? didnt get you sorry.

navinji should i try replacing the caps on my infinity 6x9s to the ones i have? the one which i posted pis of? also i would like to remove the tweets and place it separately. is it possible? ill fix a dust cap or a phase plug on the midbass' cone. and BTW whats a phase plug for? are neo magnet available off the shelf?

also navinji remember i built a torroidal... have forgotter the no. of turns for the primary. the secondry has 32 turns and give out 22v. i there any way i can work out the ratio? or you do it for me? and can the amperage be calculated from the wire guage etc? like i for eg. i used a 19gauge primary and say a 15 gauge secondry, what would be the amperage? the dmm i have only tests dc amp. any solution?

If the stuff is readily available it wont be a hassle.

I dont believe I have much knowledge when it comes to Audio hence I refer to myself as "Kane" so I meant that if I am Kane how can I "teach" someone else.

Poly caps should sound better than Electrolytic. decoupling the tweeters from the woofer is not easy. I have done it and some coax designs allow this easier than others. I have not studied the 937 (not even heard a pair) enough to see if one can do it safely.

You will have to fabricate a phase cap. the metal ones would mean that you need access to a machining shop. When I was in the US, I bought my GF (of the time) Leggs stockings so that I could use the plastic egg shaped can they came in to make phase caps.

NdFeB magnets are only available in bulk. Orders of 100s or 1000s. What do you intend to do with them? If you change the magnet on the woofer you will change it's characteristics.

Turns and wattages are simple. If you want 22V from 220V you turn ratio should be 1:10. wattages are simpler. P = VI. So your secondary side (22V) will have to have wire that can carry 10 times the current of the primary. there are charts that determine how much currect each gauge of wire can carry.

[vid6639]

Any idea about the stock speaker sizes for an Innova? Need the sizes for both front and rear door locations.

[clipto333]

Originally Posted by navin

If the stuff is readily available it wont be a hassle.

thats really nice of you navinji.

Originally Posted by navin

I dont believe I have much knowledge when it comes to Audio hence I refer to myself as "Kane" so I meant that if I am Kane how can I "teach" someone else.

oh my "kane" uncle you dont believe bt i do believe that you have an ocean of knowledge.

Originally Posted by navin

Poly caps should sound better than Electrolytic. decoupling the tweeters from the woofer is not easy. I have done it and some coax designs allow this easier than others. I have not studied the 937 (not even heard a pair) enough to see if one can do it safely

ok, maybe they are the same but navinji, i have an infnity 6x9. :-)

Originally Posted by navin

You will have to fabricate a phase cap. the metal ones would mean that you need access to a machining shop. When I was in the US, I bought my GF (of the time) Leggs stockings so that I could use the plastic egg shaped can they came in to make phase caps.

i dont think there is a problem here as i can get it made in a factory(we sold the factory to our other parters). what kind of machining shop does one need/ there is 1 or 2 cnc machines, lots of other machines making valves(gate valves etc) can it be made on these machines.

Originally Posted by navin

NdFeB magnets are only available in bulk. Orders of 100s or 1000s. What do you intend to do with them? If you change the magnet on the woofer you will change it's characteristics.

no i dont want to change the magnets. BTW why are they called rare earth magnets?

Turns and wattages are simple. If you want 22V from 220V you turn ratio should be 1:10. wattages are simpler. P = VI. So your secondary side (22V) will have to have wire that can carry 10 times the current of the primary. there are charts that determine how much currect each gauge of wire can carry.[/quote] thanks again.

cheers
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[vid6639]

Originally Posted by vid6639

Any idea about the stock speaker sizes for an Innova? Need the sizes for both front and rear door locations.

Can anyone confirm if the Innova G4 variant comes with 4 speakers on all teh doors. It says so on the Toyota website.

I was planning on getting a basic system i.e. HU + 4speakers as my uncle is really no audiophile and I am the one forcing him for a system.

If it already has 4 speakers then I only need to get the HU.

[rocksterraghu]

Originally Posted by vid6639

Can anyone confirm if the Innova G4 variant comes with 4 speakers on all teh doors. It says so on the Toyota website.

I was planning on getting a basic system i.e. HU + 4speakers as my uncle is really no audiophile and I am the one forcing him for a system.

If it already has 4 speakers then I only need to get the HU.

I think the G4 petrol/diesel comes with 1-DIN HU (Toyotas come with Panasonic HU AFAIK) and 4 speakers. So, I guess there would be no need to buy a HU as the basic system would be sufficed.

[navin]

Originally Posted by clipto333

ok, maybe they are the same but navinji, i have an infnity 6x9. :-)

i dont think there is a problem here as i can get it made in a factory(we sold the factory to our other parters). what kind of machining shop does one need/ ..BTW why are they called rare earth magnets?

I think the Infinity 6x9 have the same construction as the JBL.

All one needs is a lathe. a phase plug is cone shaped and it can either be hollow like mine or solid.

rare earth magnets (NDFeB or SmCo) contain "rare" earths like Neodynium or Samarium.

[vid6639]

Originally Posted by rocksterraghu

I think the G4 petrol/diesel comes with 1-DIN HU (Toyotas come with Panasonic HU AFAIK) and 4 speakers. So, I guess there would be no need to buy a HU as the basic system would be sufficed.

hmm, the toyota website says no audio system for the G4 but says has 4 speakers for the G4 compared to the 6 speakers for the V.

[low_bass_makker]

Originally Posted by vid6639

hmm, the toyota website says no audio system for the G4 but says has 4 speakers for the G4 compared to the 6 speakers for the V.

They consider tweeter as a speaker also.

[vid6639]

Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

They consider tweeter as a speaker also.

yup paaji. the extra 2 are the tweeters in the ORVM pod. but does the G4 come with 4 speakers at all? My uncle will thrash me if i get speakers and there are already speakers.