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[sunster]

Hi all,

After a lot of reading and help from the gurus, i finally ICED up my new optra magnum. Here are the details:

AMPLIFIERS:
1) Earthquake T2000W/4
4 channel amp
Max Power output: 2000 Watts
RMS Power 4-Ohm Bridged: 2 x 300
RMS Power 2-Ohm Stereo: 4 x 150
RMS Power 4-ohm stereo: 4 x 100
Damping Factor: >800
Cross over slopes: 24dB/OCT
THD: >0.005
SNR: 90dB
Class: A/B

2) JBL
GTO301.1 II 300-Watt Mono Subwoofer Amplifier

Front Door Components

KICKER AUDIO
DS- 600.2
Woofer Size : 6" (160mm)
Tweeter Size : .75" (20mm)
Dome Material : Titanium
Rated Impedance : 4Ohms
Max Power : 120W
RMS Power : 60W
Sensitivity 90dB
Effective Frequency Range : 43-20kHz
High Pass : 12dB/4000Hz
Low Pass : 12dB/4000Hz
High Frequency Output Attenuation, dB : 0,3&6

Rear Door Components

MTX AUDIO

Thunder Dome-Axial TDX5202

5-1/4” Coaxial
Cone Polypropylene
Tweeter 20mm Soft Dome
Pivoting Tweeter Yes
Impedance 4 Ω
Frequency Response 55Hz-20kHz
Power (RMS) 45
Peak Music Power 90
Sensitivity @ 2.83V 92dB

SUBWOOFER

Kicker TCVT12-2 Car Audio 12" Shallow Enclosure Box


• Width (inches) 21-3/4
• Height (inches) 13-7/16
• Depth (inches) 7-1/8
• Second Depth (inches) 3-15/16
• Connector Type Spring posts
• Frequency Response 25-350 Hz
• Power Range (Watts RMS) 50-400
• Maximum Wattage 800
• Sensitivity 98 dB
• Impedance 2 ohms

HEAD UNIT

JVC KW-AVX800

Power Output:200W Max. (MOSFET 50W X 4), 20W X 4 RMS
7" Wide Touch-Screen Monitor
Rear USB Port for Video and Audio playback from Flash Memory Drives, Digital AUdio Players and Portable HDD Devices up to 10 GB Capacity
Ready for Bluetooth® Wireless Technology
Built-In SD Card Slot
GIGA MP3 Multi
7-Band iEQ/High Pass Filter
Ready for iPod* In Conjunction with KS-PD100
SAT Radio Ready*
MP3/WMA/WAV/CD/CD-R/CD-RW Compatible with ID3/WMA Tag
DivX Ultra® Certified
JPEG Display
DVD-R/-RW,+R/+RW/Multi-Border Compatible
Built-In 5.1 Channel Decoding
Front/Rear/Sub/Center/Video Outputs
AV Input Terminals
Shock Proof Memory
WallPaper Setting
Amp Defeat
Motorized Faceplate
Steering Wheel Remote Ready*
HS-IV Tuner
Telephone Muting
*Requires additional Accessories

The above system ROCKS!!! Apart from this I got the teflon coating done, V-KOOL sunfilm, Reverse parking sensors with voice guide, Rear View Camera fitted to the registration plate which activates as I shift into reverse gear.

Im quite happy with the installation. Total cost is about Rs. 75000/-

Will try and post pics soon

Cheers
SUNNY

[ragzv]

Originally Posted by Jaggu

okaaaaaaayyyy i need to check, my spare wheel anyway cannot be bolted down due to the wider tyre, let me see if it will go in ulta then i can try exploring. Dont remember where the jack unit resides down below.

But i chimply love the stealth install !!

and i cannot do without spare wheel.

Your bigger spare wheel can be bolted if you use the bolt of an Accent, as accent has a 5j rim compared to 4j of Santro.

[Jaggu]

Originally Posted by Technocrat

I doubt if the MDF tray in a Swift will hold a 10inch Infact even 8 inch is doubtfull as the space betwenn rear seats & door is very narrow. Somebody correct me if Iam wrong.

Jaggu I think If you can accomdate one sub on MDF & it still has space for 6X9s then its fine else fit only the sub & get Coax or comps at rear doors(Not Boot Door).

Yup didnt measure, but looking at how the rear ovals sit, i feel i can squeeze in one 8" woofer only, on the MDF (small spacer will be required wcw scenario).

Meanwhile any specific suggestion towards AMP and Sub?

How to wire it, config: Front Comp + Rear Ovals + 8" sub ?

Should i change the wiring also? right now the OE (inbuilt) wiring is used for the 4 speakers.

Anyway i have to do an upgrade might as well do it proper. I will have to wait till new year for changes since the weekends are booked till then.

[navin]

Originally Posted by Technocrat

I doubt if the MDF tray in a Swift

Originally Posted by Jaggu

Yup didnt measure, but looking at how the rear ovals sit, i feel i can squeeze in one 8" woofer only, on the MDF (small spacer will be required wcw scenario).
Meanwhile any specific suggestion towards AMP and Sub?
How to wire it, config: Front Comp + Rear Ovals + 8" sub ?
Should i change the wiring also? right now the OE (inbuilt) wiring is used for the 4 speakers.

Jaggu you got a Swift? I dont think even a 8" will fit. the rear deck at it's widest is just about 9" and that will leave precious little for the baffle.

for a swift your best option would be to consider a spare wheel sub.

[Jaggu]

and sad. how much should be the min outer ring dia for a 8" ?

Wheel well here i come, let me see if ulta position of tyre can be done, again hope i dont have to remove the clamp, which i really want to avoid

[Technocrat]

Yep that seems like the only option btw which Pio HU do you have ?

[Jaggu]

Originally Posted by Technocrat

Yep that seems like the only option btw which Pio HU do you have ?

My existing config:

Old Pioneer KEH P705 (HU)
Very Old Pioneer CDX P1220S (12 CD changer)
Rear 6x9 (Oval) GTO 937 * 2
Front Component GTO 607 C * 2

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...tml#post414012 (The DIESEL experience! Swift VDi)

I might change the HU and CD changer for a better HU also.

Looking at the MDF board i feel i have around 3.5" to spare compared to the 6*9 speakers, so am wondering if the 8" will squeeze in.

As another option i was thinking if a bass tube (even a custom one) which is placed vertical on one of the sides maybe a good idea? Is there any rule for mounting bass tube?

Bump on the previous question of wiring configuration, as well as to retain the existing wiring or rewire completely?

[Technocrat]

How much of Base are you really looking at ? I mean if you dont want to go to sub level freuencies then get any of the current generation of Pio HUs as they allow the rear speakers to be used as small subs i.e. only lower frequencies are passed to rear & they are controlled similarly like a Sub(i.e. all the setting available for sub can be used.)
I am suggesting this becasue I suggested this to a few of my friends & they seemed to be happy with the outcome since they didnot want loud thumps & also didnt want to go for amp & sub. The 6X9s produce some really nice base if used properly.

As for wiring, better wiring never hurts. A friend changed to Monster cables & the results were noticeable & he doesnt even have an amp.

[Jaggu]

i think my unit also has the function that you have mentioned, i think its Front image enhancing (FIE) function you are referring to. That is fine but it spoils the sound staging is what i felt.

After this install in swift i really didnt try it though, let me give it another try today.

[Technocrat]

Yes FIE was in Casssete Players(Had this in My dad's Car too) & in few CD playesr as well but the way it is done in new Ones is much easier & more effective as in they have HPF & LPF controls with gains settings

Anyways try it out & let us know :-)

[Jaggu]

Originally Posted by Technocrat

but the way it is done in new Ones is much easier & more effective as in they have HPF & LPF controls with gains settings

Anyways try it out & let us know :-)

My player has this as well as the new ones (CD/MP3) have the FIE settings along with HPF & LPF.

[vid6639]

Aha, look who wants an upgrade to his ICE. hehehe. Jaggu has been bitten by the evil twins bug.

Why not remove the rear seats and put in 4 subs?

[navin]

Originally Posted by Jaggu

I might change the HU and CD changer for a better HU also.
Looking at the MDF board i feel i have around 3.5" to spare compared to the 6*9 speakers, so am wondering if the 8" will squeeze in.

one idea. go to your installer. ask him for a 8" sub *any one that he has in stock). place it upside down on the parcel shelf ans see if you have enough wood around the sub to allow for a stiff MDF shelf. I would expect you need about 1" around the sub.

As far sa you HU and cd changer go the selection is vast and I think you know engouh to choose what you want Right?

Originally Posted by vid6639

Aha, look who wants an upgrade to his ICE. hehehe. Jaggu has been bitten by the evil twins bug.
Why not remove the rear seats and put in 4 subs?

Is this true? Is Jaggu slowly turning into LBM? :-)

[Sam Kapasi]

Originally Posted by navin

Is this true? Is Jaggu slowly turning into LBM? :-)

In this case we shall have to ask GTO to change his nickname from Jaggu to T_L_B_M.

Thumba_Low_Bass_Maadi.

[navin]

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

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Thumba_Low_Bass_Maadi.

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