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Old 26th September 2014, 09:09   #166
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@ampere; I do the same. Get the coordinates from Google Maps, and then transfer them.

I must say once I had a spectacular goof up by the GPS. My son had moved to a flat in Park place Gurgaon. I did a search, found and flagged it. The GPS was taking me about 13 km away from my true destination (apparently there is a second Park Place). I got lost, realised when I saw signposts to the Industrial area (my first visit to Gurgaon), asked a shop, made my way back following his directions to Cyber City, and then called my son to come and escort us. We have entered the Road barely 3km from our true destination!
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Just out of interest, that is not quite true. In the UK you might find that notation, but in Germany and the Netherlands you will have the street first and then the house number.
I was living in German for quite a long time, and used Garmin Navi extensively.
first you have to select a region, then spell a postal code or city, then street name and house number. Have travelled to France, Belgium, Italy, netherlands etc. after feeding, Postal code, street & house number it is really not a problem at all. you have to define region/country you are travelling to. But with Indian address it is difficult to search beyond postal code.

By the way has anybody used open street maps for Garmin? How good they are for address search in India?
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By the way has anybody used open street maps for Garmin? How good they are for address search in India?
I'm using open street maps for my Garmin Etrex 30. In all honesty, I never use the search function for streets. I use my Garmin only when I go out on my Bullet and I usually plan a route on my PC and upload it to the Garmin. I live in Delhi and I find the open streets maps adequate in detail.

But I can't really comment on address searches for them

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In all honesty, I never use the search function for streets. I use my Garmin only when I go out on my Bullet and I usually plan a route on my PC and upload it to the Garmin.
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Just out of curiosity:
When you go on one of your outdoor trips on the Bullet, and get stuck on a highway choked with traffic, does your route plan suffice in getting you out of the situation by suggesting detours ?
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Just out of curiosity:
When you go on one of your outdoor trips on the Bullet, and get stuck on a highway choked with traffic, does your route plan suffice in getting you out of the situation by suggesting detours ?
I dont think that level of detail can be planned. The idea is to plan your arterial routes on a PC if there are multi-hops. Because its difficult working that out on the device. PC is much easier.
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Just out of curiosity:
When you go on one of your outdoor trips on the Bullet, and get stuck on a highway choked with traffic, does your route plan suffice in getting you out of the situation by suggesting detours ?
The Garmin Etrex is a pretty simple, essentially little handheld GPS. It doesn't have rerouting capabilities as such. If I don't follow the route I have programmed, or uploaded, it will re-plan accordingly to the next waypoint, but that is as far as it goes.

But I try to avoid riding my bullet in that sort of traffic to start with. I only use it for fun, so I'm out early Sunday mornings or I take it way out of Delhi to avoid traffic.

At home, in Europe and the USA I have several TomTom GPS units. Half of them also have this so called Traffic-Live function. That works, mostly, very well, the TomTom will continuously calculate what the best route would be, based on ongoing and projected congestion.

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If I don't follow the route I have programmed, or uploaded, it will re-plan accordingly to the next waypoint, but that is as far as it goes.
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It doesn't have rerouting capabilities as such.

If it can re-plan, then would it
a) pester you to retrace your steps back to the main route at the spot you left it (something like a broken record going "take a u-turn now!")

Or

b) figure out the path to rejoin the main route, perhaps a little way off from the spot you left at, albeit well before the waypoint.

Or

c) figure out a different path , to the next way point - may not even come back to the main route.


If b) then yes - then that's some form of re-routing, if c) that's full blown re-routing.

Incidentally , in many highway choke instances, even having functionality like b) can help immensely, because the detour may be sufficiently wide to offer you a good chance to escape the offending obstruction entirely.
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If it can re-plan, then would it
a) pester you to retrace your steps back to the main route at the spot you left it (something like a broken record going "take a u-turn now!")

Or

b) figure out the path to rejoin the main route, perhaps a little way off from the spot you left at, albeit well before the waypoint.

Or

c) figure out a different path , to the next way point - may not even come back to the main route.


If b) then yes - then that's some form of re-routing, if c) that's full blown re-routing.

Incidentally , in many highway choke instances, even having functionality like b) can help immensely, because the detour may be sufficiently wide to offer you a good chance to escape the offending obstruction entirely.
Mabye I wasn't quite clear. The Etrex doesn't have a replan function as such.

So you need to drive away from the original planned route and it will immediately start replanting. As long as you are near to where you left the original route, it might try and take you back to where you left it. So the trick is to drive away a little further. But it all depends on the actual streets and traffic situation.

Now on my TomTom I can actually force to calculate different routes and I can compare them distance and time wise.

Hope this helps,

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Just to add, my earlier comments on the notations for city, street, number were mainly based on how you would write an adress, maybe not so much on how you would search for an address in a GPS device

So I did a little test today:

On my Garmin Etrex, even in the Netherlands, it will ask for country, city, house number and then street.

My TomTom will, in all countries, including as for country, city, street and house number even in the UK.

To be honest, the TomTom way makes more sense to me from a programming point of view. You want to narrow down the number of possibilities with every entry. In that respect I don't understand the Etrex asking for the house number after the city. There could be hundreds, if not thousands of streets!

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Garmin Maps 2014.30 released. Got the email today.
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Garmin Maps 2014.30 released. Got the email today.
Sir, I have not been able to update the maps (to 2014.30) on my 2656LM device. The website (garmin.co.in), asks me to install 'Garmin Communicator Plugin' while it is already installed/running (it detects the device correctly). I also tried 'Garmin Express' which does not show map updates. I tried both Firefox as well as IE (both on Windows as well as MAC, for what it is worth).

I was able to update to 2013.30 last year using Garmin Communicator Plugin.

Please share steps for updating to 2014.30. Thanks very much!
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Garmin Maps 2014.30 released. Got the email today.
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Sir, I have not been able to update the maps (to 2014.30) on my 2656LM device. The website (garmin.co.in), asks me to install 'Garmin Communicator Plugin' while it is already installed/running (it detects the device correctly). I also tried 'Garmin Express' which does not show map updates. I tried both Firefox as well as IE (both on Windows as well as MAC, for what it is worth).

I was able to update to 2013.30 last year using Garmin Communicator Plugin.

Please share steps for updating to 2014.30. Thanks very much!
Though I registered my Garmin LM50 immediately after purchasing it 2 years ago, I never received any email regarding updates or anything else.

Anyway, after seeing the post by sgiitk, I downloaded 2014.30 (a huge 900+ MB download) and tried to install it. Despite my best efforts (I'm reasonably good with computers / software) I couldn't install it initially. After visiting some Garmin forums online I could finally install the upgrade but then it was impossible to 'validate' the upgrade. The device did not allow me to use the new maps without validating. It kept asking for some 'coupon code' which I didn't have.

Then I emailed Garmin and they told me to contact their only Indian service centre in Delhi. I spoke to the service person there and he remotely connected to my computer with the Garmin hooked to it. He could see all the files in my computer as well as the Garmin. However, he failed to validate the update.

Subsequently, I was visited by a Garmin executive at Kolkata and he too put his hands up and advised me to send my device to Delhi (though there were no hardware problems in my device).

Finally, I couriered my device to Delhi and they installed 2014.30 and sent it back to me (no charge for the upgrade, I only paid one way courier charges for sending the device to Delhi).

There clearly seem to be some strange issues regarding this latest map upgrade.

One last piece of information : On my LM50, less than 100MB were free after the last upgrade in 2013. When I went online for the latest upgrade, the Garmin site clearly instructed that LM50 (and some other models) needed to have an extra microSD card for upgrading to 2014.30. So I put in a 8GB card. But when I received my device back from Garmin Service in Delhi, I found that the microSD card was empty and 2014.30 had been installed in the internal memory itself.
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When I went online for the latest upgrade, the Garmin site clearly instructed that LM50 (and some other models) needed to have an extra microSD card for upgrading to 2014.30.
2565LM requires a 2GB microSD card too for the upgrade and I did infact insert a 4GB microSD card before trying the upgrade.

BTW, where (URL) did you download the 900MB map update file ? I just cannot seem to find it and various pages I visited suggest me to use 'Garmin Express' for map update (which does not work!).

PS: Typo in my earlier post (#176). The device model is 2565LM and not as mentioned.

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2565LM requires a 2GB microSD card too for the upgrade and I did infact insert a 4GB microSD card before trying the upgrade.

BTW, where (URL) did you download the 900MB map update file ? I just cannot seem to find it and various pages I visited suggest me to use 'Garmin Express' for map update (which does not work!).

PS: Typo in my earlier post (#176). The device model is 2565LM and not as mentioned.
I downloaded the update from http://www.garmin.co.in/mapupdate/. But as I have mentioned earlier, it was of no use.
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I downloaded the update from http://www.garmin.co.in/mapupdate/. But as I have mentioned earlier, it was of no use.

Did you try updating via the PC app? That is how I usually do mine for my US maps.
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