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Old 3rd February 2012, 09:02   #931
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.., less than 5K doesn't get you enough; and more than 10K does not necessarily get you more and more.

The "INR5-10K" assumes off-the-shelf Dynamat/Dynamat Extreme type of damping sheets pasted in strategic areas, augmented by closed-cell foam / cotton-waste stuffing in some areas.
Looking at the money I have spent so far, and the quotes I have got, I would say that the above figures are more suitable for a DIY job.

One accessories shop I checked with quoted 4k for a damping of only the boot. If I add the doors, then it is possibly another 4k. If you add the floor & firewall, it will be higher.

My current estimate for the Ikon is 5 sheets of damping material, working out to 8k for a full DIY job, using average cost of damping sheets. This includes the boot, doors, floor, & a little of the firewall.

If we were to open the dash & do a complete fire-wall job, then you can add 3k because this section can do with thicker sheets like Dynamat. And you may need help from a mechanic to open & re-fit the dash.

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Old 3rd February 2012, 18:37   #932
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1. Labor is cheap, so if you buy it from a shop they apply it too and don't charge for it - same as DIY
2. No, the cost band I quoted does not include damping the firewall and floor
3. 4K for damping the boot - that person was pulling a fast one
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Post #900 in this thread: I had posted a pic of the OE damping in the Ikon's door. Re-posting the pic here for reference.

The Damping Material and Sound Deadener Thread-ikonoedamping.jpg

The Ikon is 3 yrs old, and yet the sheet is already peeling.

Relatively, the 6 yr old Sumo is doing just fine. Tata may have used a slightly thinner damping sheet than Ford, but the sheets are stuck well, and doing their duty without a fuss.

Here's pics from the Sumo - two pieces in the each door:

The Damping Material and Sound Deadener Thread-sumorldoor1a.jpg

The Damping Material and Sound Deadener Thread-sumorldoor2.jpg
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Condor Sir - Satya of Evo damped all the doors in my Swift using this brand of damping sheets. I have no idea whether heating is required or not, as i wasnt present when it was done, but they have made quite a difference. No vibration or rattles. Also the outside noise has reduced to quite an extent !
Hi Nirmal Sir. Could you please share how much you spent on these sheets? I'm planning to get my Swift's front doors damped and American Damping is the only brand available in my city . I was a bit confused at first, on whether to go for it or source other brands from outside. But after learning that "Satya Sir" has used it in your car, I think it is a safe option.
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American Damping is the only brand available in my city
hi Manjot,
Accessories shops here are quoting 1600 per sheet (1m x 56cm x 1.5mm thick).
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FYI everyone, I checked with an accessories shop at Kochi and they quoted Rs.1800/- per sheet (4 sq.feet) for Dynamat. The price includes installation too.

Also, any idea about 'Ecstatic', which is another damping material. I am thinking of putting one behind the dashboard of my Fiat Uno. Is it going to make any difference as far as vibration is concerned? And how difficult of a job is it to remove and re-fit the entire dash?

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@DudeWithaFiat, if required take help of a mechanic to open the dash. Taking out & re-fitting the dash is not much of a problem. The A.S.S would have charged you 400-500 for labour for that part.

Where is the vibration coming from ?
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I have ordered 4 sheets of

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each, which comes to around 17sqft in total.

I plan to use the first one for the front doors and the second one for the rest, including the boot in my swift.

Would this quantity be enough to cover the 5 doors of swift?
Which other area would get help by damping, bonnet?
I am the answer


The Damping Material and Sound Deadener Thread-img_1897_02.jpg
The Aluminium-Butyl based sheets, each tile in the bg is 2x2 ft

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2mm thick butyle+polypropelene+Aluminum+Polyethene coating based damping sheets

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Poly propelene based deadening sheets

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5mm thickness, i guess it is CC foam?

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The whole raw materials, sheets, turpentine, scissors,cotton waste, screw drivers

The Damping Material and Sound Deadener Thread-img_1913_02.jpg
dirty door, needs cleaning

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cleaning done with turpentine and cotton waste

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A few bruises and stained hands which required 2 days to completely wash off

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damping done on first door

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damping done on the second door and the sheets are done ~ 8.5 sq.feet for 2 doors inner

The Damping Material and Sound Deadener Thread-img_1927_02.jpg

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deadening done for the front door on the outer wall.

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deadening done for 4th door. total sheets consumed ~ 9.5 sqft.


Nothing left for the boot. :(

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@DerAlte, there is the difference. What I have seen is that the accessories shop will apply the damping sheet where @glidgealong has applied the deadener. I have not seen them touch the inner sheet (where @glidealong has applied the blue sheet).

Another example of how accessories shops do the damping is here:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...-titanium.html (A common man's Ford Figo Titanium)

Trying to understand the difference between doing it these two ways. Help, pls ?

@glidealong, I have done it similar to how you have. It is working, so no worries there.
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Some more information for people who wanna go the DIY way. Happened to see Armacell being used in my FIL's factory for insulation purposes.

Details of product : Armacell - Armaflex

The product is called Armaflex and is pretty much similar to Dynamat. Comes in varied thickness and pretty flexible also. I don't have much spare time on my hand for now, else I would have nicked a sheet or two and given a go at the scorpio's front door.
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Hi Nirmal Sir. Could you please share how much you spent on these sheets? I'm planning to get my Swift's front doors damped and American Damping is the only brand available in my city . I was a bit confused at first, on whether to go for it or source other brands from outside. But after learning that "Satya Sir" has used it in your car, I think it is a safe option.
I guess it was around 2K ~ for each door was the charges for the damping including all the labour. Btw, i happened to see the box it came in & it was a plain white cardboard box with American damping printed on it. Almost a year completed with it & havent faced any issues
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I don't have much spare time on my hand for now, else I would have nicked a sheet or two and given a go at the scorpio's front door.
Riju, you should have still got a few sheets now & worked on the Scorp as soon as you get a chance. Should make a difference in the SQ / NVH after you complete it.

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I guess it was around 2K ~ for each door was the charges for the damping including all the labour.
@Nirmal, any chance you can open up the door pad & give us a pic ? Also, pls try this:

* knock on the door (from outside) and on the fender - and let me know if there is a difference in the sound.
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sticking the sheets on the inner side of the outer sheet metal is the right way of doing this, the inner plate is much more stiffer and the contoured, the outer sheet metal is plain and thats what need the vibration damping.

@ glidealong - good job on the DIY, also get a underbody waterbased coating done for the whole process to be complete

just a suggestion for others attempting DIY, buying a set of cotton gloves and using them would prevent cuts.

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@DerAlte, there is the difference. What I have seen is that the accessories shop will apply the damping sheet where @glidgealong has applied the deadener. I have not seen them touch the inner sheet (where @glidealong has applied the blue sheet).

@glidealong, I have done it similar to how you have. It is working, so no worries there.
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sticking the sheets on the inner side of the outer sheet metal is the right way of doing this, the inner plate is much more stiffer and the contoured, the outer sheet metal is plain and thats what need the vibration damping.
Thanks, Ryan ! That's the logic /reason I was looking for. I had instinctively done this, and like I mentioned earlier, I am seeing the results.
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Thanks, Ryan ! That's the logic /reason I was looking for. I had instinctively done this, and like I mentioned earlier, I am seeing the results.
Hi Condor. Thanks for the price update you gave on American Damping.

I have a query. Can we leave the inner plate un-damped? I'm trying to save a few bucks for other accessories.
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