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Old 27th December 2006, 12:19   #256
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@srishiva, welcome to T-BHP :-)

The Blau units with USB support (you're probably looking at the St. Louis @17K or the Memphis @25K, right?) are overpriced. If you can't do with USB support, have a dekko at the Kenwood units with this feature (at around 10K).

Your choice of speakers (front & rear) is fine!

By Blau's active sub, do you mean the THB200A?



This sub is ok only if you don't need much bass at all. It is a solution with minimum wiring alright, but the bang-for-the-buck factor is a bit less.

I'd used a similar solution under my seat (again from Blau) a few years ago, and sold it at a loss within weeks. I then bought a proper sub and amp which suited me better.

You may feel now that you don't need much boom. But once you start getting a little boom, you'll keep lusting for more. I'd always recommend a proper sub (a 10" if you want lesser boom and want to save space) and amp. Ultimately it may only cost you a couple of thousand more than the active solution, but you'll bet maximum bass for the buck.

If your boot space requirement is absolute, and that too on a daily basis, you may have to compromise on the active sub. If you'll only need the boot space say just once a month or once in 2 weeks or so, get a good boxed sub (the Blau THB250 is a good compact sub-in-a-box solution) and a 2ch amp (like the JBLCS60.2 or JBL GTO75.2 or the BlauGTA275) to drive it. You can just unplug the sub and keep it at home when you want the boot space.

The Blau THB250


As for the speakers you can keep them powered off the HU till you want to add a 4-ch amp later. If you're ok with the sound, forget the 4-ch amp :-) But adding an amp will make your front comps perform their best.

Alternatively you can get a 4-ch amp (JBL CS60.4 or JBL GTO75.4 or the Blau GTA475) now and use it to drive the front comps and the sub-in-a-box (with the rears powered by the HU). Even better bang for the buck.

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Old 27th December 2006, 12:34   #257
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Hydra, What does this Blau THB250 cost?
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Old 27th December 2006, 13:04   #258
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@ Sam, The THB250 runs to 8300/- or 8500/- (premium for compact size I guess)

@ srishiva, I was looking at the THB250's specs: [200w to 600w; Dimensions in mm 450 x 310 x 220] and the specs of another Blau sub, the GTB300 12" sub-in-a-box [250w - 750w; Dimensions in mm: 482x387x378]

The GTB300 runs to only 6500/- or 6800/-. If this sub will fit in a Swift boot (I think it will), this will be a better solution. A (very little) bit of boot space will be left over.

The JBLCS1004T (10" tube, 5000/-) will also be a good solution, depending of the kind of bass you like. More boom = Bass tube. There is also a 12" tube, but this will really swallow the boot.

If you're OK with spending 8000/- for a sub-in-a-box, the JBLCS1204B (sealed box) can also be considered. I didn't get the exact dimensions, but I think it sits between the THB250 and the GTB300 in size. This being a sealed sub, you will need the GTO75.2 (if 2ch) or 75.4 (if 4ch) amp to power it well.

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Old 27th December 2006, 13:52   #259
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Thanks Hydra, I will look into Kenwood for the HU. I will be going for 4 ch amp and a proper woofer later. By the way how much does the blau active sub cost ?
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Old 27th December 2006, 14:49   #260
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The local Blau guys haven't sold a THB200A yet. They're not too sure of price, and say it is just above 9000/-. I guess that should be about right, as the prices of the two boxes (THB200A & THB250) online show about a 1000/- difference, with the THB200A being the costlier one.
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Old 27th December 2006, 23:28   #261
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Default Finally happy with all JBL setup

I finally got my system replaced with all JBL setup based on whatever cooperation I could get from my dealer.

HU: Pio 6850
Front: GTO 607C ( powered by amp)
Rear : GTO 637
Amp: CS 60.4
Sub: 12 in CS 1204B ( powered by amp)
Wiring: JBL

There is considerable improvement from my earlier setup which had Boston comps and 5950.

The JBL comps definitely sound "brighter" and the 6850's 7 band equalizer helped tweak the sound to my liking. I had the choice of going for 6950 but considering its all grey and 6950 is still "new", went with the tried and tested 6850.

The sound is good and I am satisfied. Thanks to all the bhp gurus for their suggestions. However the sound is not the best but for this budget its pretty good.

The rear speakers don't seem to be doing enough job as I think they are not powered enough. As a future expansion, would get the JBL 2 ch amp to power the sub and use the existing amp to power the rear as well.
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Hi All,,

Finally I got my ICE installed from Auto Fusion. Thanks so much for your valuable suggestions. Spl. thanks to Hydrashok, Muni and Sam.

Here is the configuration. I couldn't bargain much as I was in a hurry to get it done :-(. The only worry is, Touqeer he said separate wires are not required since I don't have sub, amp etc. And the wires coming with JBL speakers should be good enought, it seems.

I had read in this thread that good installation is complete only with good set of wires. I'm not sure if my understanding is correct on this. Pls. thorw some light on this.

HU: Pio 5850: Rs 8300 (without B&W)
Front: GTO 637c : Rs 6500
Back: GTO937 : Rs : 4950
Tray and Labour : 1800

Total without discount : 21550
Discount 10% on JBL speakers
After discount : Rs 20400
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Old 28th December 2006, 11:53   #263
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Roasted and melody (hai chocolatey, melody hai chocolatey, hey, hey funny one roasted chocolatey),

Roasted, yes, get a mono amplifier later to drive the sub. Melody hai chocolatey, chill, you are fine.


You have both been JBLfyed. All is well my children, now go into the land of easily excitable women that will bed you at the drop of a hat. Enjoy your music.
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Sam has baptised another couple today.

Roasted and Melody , you guys havent gone too much overboard on the budget which normally doesnt happen in this part of the woods.

Enjoy your music.
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Old 28th December 2006, 12:18   #265
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@ roasted, nice to know the setup is done :-) Your future plan is also good.

@ melody, good setup. I'm a bit impulsive too, and generally don't bargain too hard. And, the wires that came with the JBL are good wires, so nothing to worry there.

Like muni said you folks have kept your head and spent more or less what you planned to. Good! And with the blessings of the hairy god of JBL, may you folks lead long JBLfyed lives.

Enjoy your music! That's what its all about :-)

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Yes. I enjoy every bit of this setup. Thankfully, it was done just before the long drive to my native (north Kerala) from B'lore. An amazing trip it was!
One more thing, the tweeter (hope that's what you call the small component of the component speaker :-)) ) is fitted close to the RVM's lever (the one tht's used to adjust RVM. I'm very bad at the jargons, u know :-)). Is that okay?
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Old 29th December 2006, 13:17   #267
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The tweeter positioning is exactly as it should be. The base of the A Pillar and the area nearest to the ORVM stalks are the best places to place the tweeters in 2-way setups.
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The dealer showed me the Pio 6850DVD (yes DVD) HU. Its an amazing 2 DIN set with touchscreen and 6 DVD changer. Seems like made for Swift!

Any thoughts on this HU?
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Old 31st December 2006, 12:42   #269
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ya... its a good HU... limited audio functions though... you need to buy the optional processor for full audio functionality
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Hi guys...
i hav a a swift lxi...i already hav rear speakrs..in the dash...Xplod...dont knw the series though..gotta chek it out...wat i want to knw is...if i go for the component speakers in the fornt..the GTO series...wil i get enuf bass...i mean i drive most of the time...n i feel tht the bass tht the sony gives is only at the rear...i want bass in the front...wat shud i do?
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