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Old 13th August 2007, 21:50   #886
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I have the following setup in my swift
pioneer hu 4900 with ipod cable
JBL gto 607c for fronts
JBL 6" coaxials for rear doors CS2165
JBL 60.4 4 channel amp
JBL 12" CS1204T bass tube in the boot

Now I noticed that in the back seat I am getting mostly the boom sound, not the clear music as in the front, what can I do to correct it?? and also suggest me good amp settings. audio GURUs help me on this.
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what is the EQ setting in the HU.
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what is the EQ setting in the HU.
I tried changing the EQ settings in the HU but the problem remains same.
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I have the following setup in my swift
pioneer hu 4900 with ipod cable
JBL gto 607c for fronts
JBL 6" coaxials for rear doors CS2165
JBL 60.4 4 channel amp
JBL 12" CS1204T bass tube in the boot

Now I noticed that in the back seat I am getting mostly the boom sound, not the clear music as in the front, what can I do to correct it?? and also suggest me good amp settings. audio GURUs help me on this.
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what is the EQ setting in the HU.
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I tried changing the EQ settings in the HU but the problem remains same.
You have a 4 channel amplifier and 4 speakers and a subwoofer.
  • Make sure that the rear speakers and subwofer are not attached to the same channel (which has LPF on)
  • The right way to connect this is to connect the front components to the front channel of the amplifier (HPF on at 80hz) and Subwoofer connected to rear channel (LPF on at 80hz)
  • Rear speakers will be connected to the rear channel of the HU. However you will find that due to the limitations of the amp on the HU, the rear may be soft. You can:
  • either buy a monoblock amplifier for the subwoofer and use the 60.4 to drive the front components and rear coaxials or
  • lower the gains on the CS60.4, both on the front compos and the rear subwoofer. This will cause the rear coax to sound louder BUT
  • do not expect the rear coaxials to sound as clear as the front components. The speakers are different, the positioning in the car is different
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Hi! Thank you all for your sugestions.

After going through different options, suggestions, I've decided to go for the following setup which is giving me pleasure of music in my car. You still have option to correct me if I'm going out technically.
I've also noted the prices in Bangalore (grey). Please let me know if I'm carried away (by price) by the shop people.

HU: Pioneer 6950-Rs.7,000/-
fron speaker: Infinity-6620 component system (as suggested by DerAlte)-Rs.6,000/-
Rear Speaker: JBL-T595 (9x6, 150 RMS)-Cost-Rs.7,500/-
Amp: JBL 60.4 -Rs.5,000/-

Infinity 6022i (6 1/2' co-ax) was quoted Rs.4,200/-

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Hi!. I'm new to this forum and I need your advice for my car (swift)
Here are my choice and please guide me.
HU: Pioneed 6950
fron speaker: Infinity-6622i (6 1/2 inch)
Rear Speaker: JBL-T595 (9x6, 150 RMS)
Amp: JBL 60.2 (2 channel for rear speakers)

Please advice me if this configuration is good or Bad??????
For a few Rs. more you could have got the 6020 instead of the 6022 and the 60.4 instead of the 60.2. Net additional outflow would be about 8K but hainvg components and powering all 4 speakers would push the performance up a couple of notches.
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HU: Pioneer 6950-Rs.7,000/-
fron speaker: Infinity-6620 component system (as suggested by DerAlte)-Rs.6,000/-
Rear Speaker: JBL-T595 (9x6, 150 RMS)-Cost-Rs.7,500/-
Amp: JBL 60.4 -Rs.5,000/-

Infinity 6022i (6 1/2' co-ax) was quoted Rs.4,200/-
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For a few Rs. more you could have got the 6020 instead of the 6022 and the 60.4 instead of the 60.2. Net additional outflow would be about 8K but hainvg components and powering all 4 speakers would push the performance up a couple of notches.
The grey prices seem OK.

Navin, I think @netpark is referring to 6020 that I had suggested, the '6620' must be a typo.

But now since he wants to put in T595 we have to suggest the JBL 75.4 or some more powerful amp for him. Also, maybe the T696 as Sam suggested, instead of the T595. Besht! Sam-bhai, T696 kitte mein milta?

@netpark, where did you get the grey quote from?
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Thanks Sam sir. I will check the connections morrow.
If I want to buy a mono block amp, which one is suited for my setup? or can I buy a 2 channel amp and connect it to the sub?
are the rear coaxials good (what I am using) or I need to change them also?
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Basic Information

Car: Swift VDI

Budget: 10 - 12 K.

Self Driven

Music preference: Normal FM songs, old hindi songs, soft rock. Loud music only once in a while when favorite songs play

NOT ready to sacrifice my boot space/modify door panels

Particulars

* I am a complete novice when it comes to ICE and the technicalities that are associated with it. All I need is a system that plays my kind of music and fits into my budget.
* I am not into heavy metal, rock kinda music so I assume even a good basic system will do.

* Important: I do not want to compromise on the boot space. Also, is it possible to fit the rear speakers anywhere except a tray where they are generally fit ? The tray (IMO) would contribute to rattles which are anyways associated with the swift. So can they be fitted in the door or somewhere ?

* Do I need tweeters ?

PS: I know that you guys probably discuss more "happening" systems but do give in your suggestions

PS: I did go through the Basic ICE systems in various budgets wala thread but require some specific answers here.

Thanks in advance
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Basic Information
Car: Swift VDI
Budget: 10 - 12 K.
NOT ready to sacrifice my boot space/modify door panels
* I am a complete novice when it comes to ICE and the technicalities that are associated with it. All I need is a system that plays my kind of music and fits into my budget.
* I am not into heavy metal, rock kinda music so I assume even a good basic system will do.
* Important: I do not want to compromise on the boot space. Also, is it possible to fit the rear speakers anywhere except a tray where they are generally fit ? The tray (IMO) would contribute to rattles which are anyways associated with the swift. So can they be fitted in the door or somewhere ?
* Do I need tweeters ?
PS: I know that you guys probably discuss more "happening" systems but do give in your suggestions
@Eddy (Bauer?): No, if you read through the posts, you will realize that there is no conceited "happening" systems preference here. Anything goes, as long as the owner is happy, with Appy, narangy or lappy, desi or videshi, or without!

Tweeters: yes, they enhance the stereo image and the listening pleasure (like salt to food). They don't have to go chilla-chilla - as long as they make Asha Bhonsle sound like her and not Usha Uthup or Kiri Te Kanawa. Decent component speakers are enough, not Pio TS20.

For your budget, you can get
* Pioneer, JVC or Blaupunkt HU (app 5K)
* 6.5" components in front door stock location: Blau GTc 172HP or JBL CS2165C (3.5-4K)
* 6.5" coax in rear door stock location: Blau GTX173HP or JBL CS2165 (2.5K)
OR, if you want some more bass
* 6x9 oval 3ways on plank/tray: Blau GTx693HP or JBL CS3196 (3.5K) (The tray won't rattle if fixed / damped properly; one can always use a 1" MDF plank)

Listen to some setups, whether in friends' cars or dealers, before you make up your mind. Look for deals - but don't buy without listening. Get it installed by a good installer, not someone who chops of connectors, twists wires and puts electrical tape.
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* Pioneer, JVC or Blaupunkt HU (app 5K)
* 6.5" components in front door stock location: Blau GTc 172HP or JBL CS2165C (3.5-4K)
* 6x9 oval 3ways on plank/tray: Blau GTx693HP or JBL CS3196 (3.5K) (The tray won't rattle if fixed / damped properly; one can always use a 1" MDF plank)
nicely done old man! BTW Eddy, the plan will cost you about 1K as well but it is well worth it.
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@ Deralite: Thanks for the advice.

-- The prices you have mentioned are with or without B/W ?
-- Which tweeters do you suggest ?
-- Any particular model of HU that I should consider ? Do they come with an I-Pod / MP3 player input ?


@Navin

Yep, an increase of 1 K is fine for a good system

Also, how much does installation etc cost ?
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Thanks Sam sir. I will check the connections morrow.
If I want to buy a mono block amp, which one is suited for my setup? or can I buy a 2 channel amp and connect it to the sub?
are the rear coaxials good (what I am using) or I need to change them also?
You could buy the CS300.1, this will be fine. You can also buy a small 2 channel amp, but this will not be enough for the woofer.

Yes the rear coax are fine, you can leave them be.
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-- The prices you have mentioned are with or without B/W ?
-- Which tweeters do you suggest ?
-- Any particular model of HU that I should consider ? Do they come with an I-Pod / MP3 player input ?
* Yes, with B&W for Blaupunkt and JBL, maybe JVC, not Pioneer
* The 6.5" component speakers (Blau/JBL) include the tweeter, you won't have to buy them separately
* HU (MP3 players other than iPod, and iPod if no USB available, connect via headphone jack to the AUX line)
- Pioneer 4950 or 5950 (iPod & USB adapter extra)
- JVC KD-G435/436/535 (iPod separate cable, no USB, front AUX jack)
- Blaupunkt Maui MP36 / Mumbai MP26 / San Diego MP27 (iPod separate cable, no USB, rear AUX connector)
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You could buy the CS300.1, this will be fine. You can also buy a small 2 channel amp, but this will not be enough for the woofer.

Yes the rear coax are fine, you can leave them be.
Sir, Thanks for your advice. Can you tell what will be the cost of CS 300.1 ?
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