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Old 12th September 2013, 10:28   #16
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Nice DIY.but my friend you can accomodate a 6.5inch easily inside the front door and cove up to make it look stock,installing spacer on the plastic will result in air leaks.

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Ramie, i know you install so you will know more than me.

i find that in a car with the midbass usually at knee locations and the HF unit usually so much closer to the ear (OVRM pod or high on the door or even dash) that going for a traditional 2 way (5-6" woofer + dome tweeter) leaves a lot of gaps.

I am prefering to use a woofer mated to a fullrange and crossover at say 300hz or so. The wavelength is 10x longer and hence integration of midbass to fulrange is smoother. Only disadvantage of this method is that one needs to go active (unless one build a custom passive crossover).

CMS/Ramie, what are your experiences and point of view?

I only broached this topic right now because HAT makes some nice fullrange drivers (L4Se, L3Se etc..) sorry for going OT on your thread CMS.
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CMS, a TH is pretty efficient within it's bandwidth limitation but in my limited experience sealed and TLs offer more 'tuneful' bass.
Lets see, I will start the build once i have some spare time. But the advantage is that the bandwidth can be adjusted based on the width of the horn path. So i will be planning for a horn width of ~10-12". BTW, to me, a well designed horn is any day better than any sealed/ported/TLs for music with bandwidth around low mid bass crossed somewhere ~60-75Hz.

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Nice DIY.but my friend you can accomodate a 6.5inch easily inside the front door and cove up to make it look stock,installing spacer on the plastic will result in air leaks.

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Ramie, Can you elaborate on the installation method in duster without cutting the panel braces? I tried all the possible ways.

BTW, there is no panel leaks as of now. I had used some left over neoprene rubber (usually used for sealing the HT room doors/windows) b/n the speakers-rings/panels. Also I had stiffened the stock plastic frame using metal putty and sealed all other openings using silicon sealant.

Another option is to cut the stock speaker braces and have a ring array till the door panel level to have a stock look. Since I was in hurry and the current install seals properly, I didnt go for it. But I may have to redesign it since the speaker grill is very near the glovebox cover when it is opened.

Ramie, is there any other way to install it neatly?

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CMS your installation is completed?
ANDRIO's prototype is running fine in the car.

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I will visit to your parking to have a look & audition of your precious install in next 1 - 2 weeks. Selection of all components are fantastic. Would love to hear once.
Will ping next week once I am back.

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Default General Features of ANDRIO

Following are some of the general features of the Andrio IVI
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- 4.3" (non HD) / 7" High Quality IPS LCD panel with 1080p Full HD resolution support (panel resolution 1280x800)
- Dual core / Quad core ARM A9 1.6GHz Processor with 1GB RAM and Quad core GPU
- Android 4.2 JellyBean OS
- Audiophile grade internal DAC / external USB DACs.
- Hard Disk support: 1GB - 5TB and *any USB storage device
- Audio format supported : FLAC, FLAC(HD), WAV, MP3, APE, AAC, OGG, AC3
- Video Format supported : WMV, ASF, MP4, 3GP, AVI, 3G2M4V, MJPEG, RV10, VC-1, DivX, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, H.263, H.264,1280x720P HD 30fps,1080P/720X480 D1 30fps
- OBD reader with Torque as default reader app
- High quality GPS receiver that can be used with Google Maps / Sygic / similar app
- Reverse parking camera support
- HeadUnit navigation using external remote
- FM Radio
- Unlimited Android apps using Google Play
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Ramie, i know you install so you will know more than me.

i find that in a car with the midbass usually at knee locations and the HF unit usually so much closer to the ear (OVRM pod or high on the door or even dash) that going for a traditional 2 way (5-6" woofer + dome tweeter) leaves a lot of gaps.

I am prefering to use a woofer mated to a fullrange and crossover at say 300hz or so. The wavelength is 10x longer and hence integration of midbass to fulrange is smoother. Only disadvantage of this method is that one needs to go active (unless one build a custom passive crossover).

CMS/Ramie, what are your experiences and point of view?

I only broached this topic right now because HAT makes some nice fullrange drivers (L4Se, L3Se etc..) sorry for going OT on your thread CMS.
Hi Navin Sir,HAT is no more available in the market,there are products/drivers such as Sinfoni,ZR Speakerlab available which can be crossed much higher frequency.

Pics attached for REF: We are using the Focal Utopia Be in this setup 3-way with Cross-Block No.7.Thanks

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Pics attached for REF: We are using the Focal Utopia Be in this setup 3-way with Cross-Block No.7.Thanks
Ramie that Mid and tweeter hardly look stock. Yikes!
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Ramie that Mid and tweeter hardly look stock. Yikes!
Navin Sir,everyone does not go with the idea of making the Pods,we need to work on different idea's,after all client is God.How and What he says we have to work as he desires.

Sounds pretty decent,but yes in that budget he could have got something better,coming back to the topic Duster is one headache car to ICE and get the correct sound,very odd seating position than SUV's/MUV's available.

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Ramie, sorry just now i saw your pictures. One doubt though, wont the flush mount with a 4" deep give a very localized sound esp for a 2 way, one of the main reason for not opting that location. Also it can affect the off-axis performance of the speakers. Your views plz. Anyways I will try it once.
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Ramie, sorry just now i saw your pictures. One doubt though, wont the flush mount with a 4" deep give a very localized sound esp for a 2 way, one of the main reason for not opting that location. Also it can affect the off-axis performance of the speakers. Your views plz. Anyways I will try it once.
Ramie, whats your thought on this?
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Ramie, whats your thought on this?
No it will not,if the installation is done properly and sealing the midbass side areas,there is no harm installing outside only the stock look will go off,also since the plastic quality is a toss,may be after 2-3months you will hear rattles.

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No it will not,if the installation is done properly and sealing the midbass side areas,there is no harm installing outside only the stock look will go off,also since the plastic quality is a toss,may be after 2-3months you will hear rattles.

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My doubt was on the following issues:

- localized sound esp for a 2 way since there is a depth \ tunnel in-front of the speaker
- the off-axis response of the speaker

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Ramie, whats your thought on this?
No it will not,if the installation is done properly and sealing the midbass side areas,there is no harm installing outside only the stock look will go off,also since the plastic quality is a toss,may be after 2-3months you will hear rattles.

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Hi CMS. Looking for some more details about your Duster remap. I am also contemplating of the same. Could you suggest the source and cost?
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I'm a Newbie here. I'm looking to change my speakers and put in a sub with amp. All the components are being brought and shipped to India courtesy of my brother. Please let me know if this will work. This is for Duster

Component Speakers -
http://www.amazon.com/Rockford-Fosga...+speakers+5.25

AMP
http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Audio-A...225+channel%22

SUB
http://www.amazon.com/Rockford-Fosga...ords=subwoofer

I can get the Sub housing done here.
Total Cost - INR17000 plus 2 coaxial speaks which will be brought here in Bangalore
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Blaupunkt San Diego 530 in My Duster
Does Steering Mounted Audio control work with this ?
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