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Old 12th June 2006, 11:45   #1
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Default Alert - Fake JBL products (Amps, Speakers, Subs...)

Dear All,

This amp is counterfeit. If any of you have bought it with a bill - kindly notify me. Thanks.

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Old 12th June 2006, 12:03   #2
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Good lord first it was alpines now there are jbls also......

Man this is bad...........

Must sue these type of people who make fake products........
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Its the distance between the triangle and the circle on the JBL logo in the second pic thats a dead giveaway that its a fake, right??
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Its really a sad case....... fakes...of what nots .... right from fakes oil filters to fuel pumps to amp...to adulterated petrol....engine oil.....and now amp's..... guess the day is not far wen v will ve fake cars )
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Yeah Amitoj,

That and many more signs.
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Old 12th June 2006, 12:18   #6
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this is the original P-4020 amp....
http://manuals.harman.com/JBL/CAR/Ow...P4020%20om.pdf
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Sam this is very much a original JBL Power Series amplifier, but an old model. Used couple of them in the past. This is a P-4020 2ch, also there was P-4040 4ch model.

This is a grey market product. It should not be sold with JBL bill & warranty.
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.. BU fromt eh link Navin posted those amps look LOOooNG ... the snap that Sam has posted the amp look rather abreviateed! - So am inclined to think Sam is right...!1

That Orange of the logo also seems to have "Bled" badly.... you can see the runoffs clearly.. !

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KB100,

The bigger picture on the owner manual is of P-4040 the 4 ch version, P-4020 2ch amp was smaller in size (194mm L vs 347 mm of 4040)

These amplifier were designed by Manny Rodriguez (Principal Design Engineer Power Amplifiers, Harman International)

He has designed products for Harman, Infinity, JBL, Alpine, Eclipse etc.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Autophile
KB100,
These amplifier were designed by Manny Rodriguez (Principal Design Engineer Power Amplifiers, Harman International)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0735415/
Is this is the same person............

or

http://www.apsdc.com/Manny%20Experience.htm
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Thanks for warning, Sam
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JB....

The P4020 was discontinued 5 or 6 years ago. And please look at the finish of the PARTICULAR amplifier i've shot. My point is very clear - there is STOCK of a badly finished P4020, this isn't one piece I'm talking about. There's retail quantities.

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1. Sam represents JBL so I'm not inclined to bet against him when it comes to JBL products
2. No reputed manufacturer would sell such a shoddily made product as shown in Sam's photo. If they did they would not have much of a reputation anymore.
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Thanx Sam for the updates.

Hope u will keep us protected from the Nakli world of JBL

One more thing are only Duplicate JBL Amps flooded in the market or more stuffs also.

Plz Update
Thanx
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sorry for going OT:

SAM, is this place "CARMAN" in Paschim Vihar, Delhi?
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