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Old 17th August 2006, 02:37   #16
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An Amp is like the heart of the system, a Bad amp can make a system with the best speakers sound terrible,
But a Good amp with average speakers can sound good.
The power rating on every amp is not proportional to the output they give, some amps will write big numbers but not deliver, Only amps which are CEA Rated on power will deliver the rated power even when Battery Volate is on the lower side.
Well no amp performs well under 10 Volts, but that is a different story.

Verdict - always have a very good amp and head , Half the jobs done.
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Old 17th August 2006, 15:53   #17
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An Amp is like the heart of the system, a Bad amp can make a system with the best speakers sound terrible,
But a Good amp with average speakers can sound good.
Verdict - always have a very good amp and head , Half the jobs done.
This may sound like I am getting a bit too critical with your posts, but the verdict part should actually go - always have good car audio components all around. They should all be of even calibre.

Please don't mind. I thought some newbies might read a bit differently into it.

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The power rating on every amp is not proportional to the output they give, some amps will write big numbers but not deliver, Only amps which are CEA Rated on power will deliver the rated power even when Battery Volate is on the lower side.
This depends on the amp's design. There are amps that can 'hold' their power delivery numbers within 2% of rated between 10 to 16 volts. While others could put out upto 50% more power at 16V versus 10V. That's regulation.

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Well no amp performs well under 10 Volts, but that is a different story.
Well, no one would want that to happen either. If it did, and did it well, that would be the only electrical appliance still running in an otherwise helplessly-electrically-screwed-up car.
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Old 17th August 2006, 19:13   #18
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i still didn't get the answer to my questions

1. what will JBL GTO 601.1 , JBL GTO 1201.1, pioneer amp or sony amp will cost around and also jbl subs with bill & without bill (grey) .please mention power(Rms) of the amp & sub. i need 1X 1000w Rms or 2X 500w rms D class amp.

2. btw i have uploaded video of my friend's pioneer dvc with glider amp , you see , hear & decide whether the amp is clipping or not. i have measured the output voltage of the amp in bridged mode , it was around 27 V .each coil of dvc was recieving 27 volts.

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[COLOR=#800080]http://rapidshare.de/files/29615442/pioneerdvc.pdf[/COLOR]
rename extension pdf to divx

3. do we have HIFONICS BXi 2006D or BXi 1606D or BXi 1206D available in india ?
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Old 17th August 2006, 19:32   #19
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Guys, I have no idea about which amp to go for or which speaker to go for. But what I noticed is the location of the monitor, it make me nervous... Is the intention is to see movie while driving!!. It looks very very scary. Are these allowed as per our Motor vehicle act?
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Old 17th August 2006, 20:11   #20
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Virender there is no need to make the same post twice. People can read the first one just fine. Please do not do that in the future, thanks.
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Old 18th August 2006, 00:17   #21
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A JBL 601.1 will cost you 19,990 B&W. (424 x 1 RMS at 4 ohms)
JBL 1201.1 will cost you 32000 B&W (748(app) x 1 RMS at 4 ohms)

What subwoofer are you planning to buy??
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Old 18th August 2006, 10:19   #22
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pioneer 510D mono block will be

Continuous power output
300 W × 1 (at 14.4 V, 4 Ω, 20 — 240 Hz, 0.4% THD)
500 W × 1 (at 14.4 V, 2 Ω, 20 — 240 Hz, 0.8% THD)


price will be nearly 10k without B/W
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A JBL 601.1 will cost you 19,990 B&W. (424 x 1 RMS at 4 ohms)
JBL 1201.1 will cost you 32000 B&W (748(app) x 1 RMS at 4 ohms)

What subwoofer are you planning to buy??
amit could you post prices of 300.1 and 301.1 too pls.
and waht would that Pio mono cost ( grey )...okok. 10k , just read lbm's post
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Old 18th August 2006, 21:01   #24
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JBL 1201.1 @ Rs. 32000

it's specification
Amplifier Type: Mono
power @ 4 Ohms: 787W x 1 @ 4 Ohms
THD at 4-Ohm RMS Power: <1 %
Bridged RMS Power @ 4 Ohms: 1114W x 1 @ 2 Ohms
Speaker Level Inputs: yes
Preamp Outputs : yes
Built-In Crossovers: LP
Bass Boost: 0 - 12 dB
Frequency Response: 10-302 Hz
Signal to Noise Ratio: 70 dB


pioneer 510D mono block @ 10k without bill & warranty ( didn't get any information regarding this amp on net if some one can post the link it will be helpfull )
Continuous power output
300 W × 1 (at 14.4 V, 4 Ω, 20 — 240 Hz, 0.4% THD)
500 W × 1 (at 14.4 V, 2 Ω, 20 — 240 Hz, 0.8% THD)

SONY XM-SD51X @ Rs.12000 ~ 13000 with bill & warranty

rms power 250 w @ 4 ohm (0.3 % thd)
500 w @ 2 ohm (0.6% thd)
S/N ratio 100 db
freq response 5~300 Hz

http://www.sonyindia.co.in/static/Ca.../xm_sd51x.html


i think buying 2 sony amps will be a good choice
& mating them to 2 pio DVC

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I would suggest you go for Alpine MRD-M605.
• 250W x 1 RMS (4ohm, 12.0V, 1% THD+N)
• 400W x 1 RMS (2ohm, 12.0V, 1% THD+N)
• 400W x 1 RMS (4ohm, 14.4V, 1% THD+N)
• 600W x 1 RMS (2ohm, 14.4V, 1% THD+N)
• Max. 1.000W x 1
• Frequency Response 20Hz-20kHz (0, -1dB)
• S/N Ratio 90dBA

It costs a cool 22,500/- with B&W. Can handle 2 subs if needed.
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Old 19th August 2006, 10:02   #26
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http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...850147,00.html

here u go for the pioneer D510 if compared to the other mono block this is surley best bang for the buck but the only problem is that it comes in Grey no B&W here...... other wise it is the best money can buy.......

and it can also handle two subs provided they are 4ohms svc......

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i think buying 2 sony amps will be a good choice
& mating them to 2 pio DVC
or two of these amps for two dvc ( I have personnal have listened to this setup man they pound a lot)


Maximum power output
600 W × 1 (4 Ω) / 1,000 W × 1 (2 Ω)

Continuous power output
300 W × 1 (at 14.4 V, 4 Ω, 20 — 240 Hz, 0.4% THD)
500 W × 1 (at 14.4 V, 2 Ω, 20 — 240 Hz, 0.8% THD)

Load impedance
4 Ω (2 — 8 Ω allowable)

Frequency response
5 — 240 Hz (+0.5 dB, –3 dB)

Distortion
0.03% (10 W, 120 Hz)

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I would suggest you go for Alpine MRD-M605.
250W x 1 RMS (4ohm, 12.0V, 1% THD+N)
400W x 1 RMS (2ohm, 12.0V, 1% THD+N)
400W x 1 RMS (4ohm, 14.4V, 1% THD+N)
600W x 1 RMS (2ohm, 14.4V, 1% THD+N)
Max. 1.000W x 1
Frequency Response 20Hz-20kHz (0, -1dB)
S/N Ratio 90dBA
some thing written wrong here...........
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some thing written wrong here...........
What is wrong?

It's from the owners' manual I have and the alpine website says the same too.
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I would suggest you go for Alpine MRD-M605.
250W x 1 RMS (4ohm, 12.0V, 1% THD+N)
400W x 1 RMS (2ohm, 12.0V, 1% THD+N)
400W x 1 RMS (4ohm, 14.4V, 1% THD+N)
600W x 1 RMS (2ohm, 14.4V, 1% THD+N)
Max. 1.000W x 1
Frequency Response 20Hz-20kHz (0, -1dB)
S/N Ratio 90dBA
Frequency Response 20Hz-20kHz (0, -1dB) its saying 20Hz-20kHz this cannot be true..... it is a sub woofer amp not a full range amp......and the site says.....RMS Power (at 14.4V,20Hz-200Hz)

http://www.alpine-usa.com/en/product...model=MRD-M605
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Thumbs down Watch Out For Stuff Like This!!

Whatever you do stay away from things like this...Look at what I found on Rediff!!

http://shopping.rediff.com/shop/prod..._home_leftnavi
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