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Old 27th August 2006, 18:07   #16
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Adxing.. good show,
you will get what you asked for with the 936 // sony 504 !! I have used a 6x9" and sony amp for a long time now and it served its purpose.

Regarding front sony speakers : Change!!! Whats your budget ?
You can get jbl 426, co-axials. Or if you have a budget of say 5 - 6k then you can look at Kicker 4" components... Im told ImageDynamics also has a 4" compo.. these can be fixed in the stock santro location.

And yes the front also needs to be powered by the amp.

Finally, do you plan on adding a subwoofer later at some point ?? Because then you might as well look at investing in 5 - 6" components in the front since 4" might get drowned out by your 6x9" + sub. For anything bigger than 4" you need to fix the speakers on your door panel. See some of the santro threads for an idea.

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Old 27th August 2006, 20:46   #17
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thanks for the reply man...

I do not have much money left as I have already exceeded my budget.
But I still feel the need for little more clarity/crispness in the sound.

The bass is OK for my taste...so a subwoofer is ruled out.

So, heres what I am going to do now:

Power the front speakers from the amp and then see if it makes a difference. If I am still not satisfied, I should go for a JBL 426 or kicker 4" components.. Any idea on the price of these?

btw, does changing the HU make quite a bit of improvement in sound clarity? please comment.
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Old 27th August 2006, 23:49   #18
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thanks all of you for the suggestions.

I have installed JBL FTO936 speakers for the rear by adding a plank....then for little more, I have added sony 4-channel amp 504. The sound is now quite satisfactory.

Now, I have the following question:

I have a basic Sony HU CDX-S22...
Is there any need to change the HU to a pioneer /alpine?
Will there be a lot of difference in the clarity/sound output by changing the HU?

Any other suggestions to improve the sound clarity/crispness ?
First of all are you not satisfied by the sound your Sony HU provides? If no, then you can check other HUs and see if it can satisfy you. And try to sample a few HUs in this setup and decide. If you're satisfied with your sony HU, then listen to some other similar setups with different HUs. That'll explain what is needed and what not.

And yes the sound character changes a lot when you change a HU but it also depends on what HUs come into play.

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just to add up to my previos question:

I have sony 4" speakers in front? Should I change that? If yes, what are the options in the same size?

Also, right now, the amp is connected to the rear speakers? Should the front ones be also powered by the amp?
YOU SHOULD CHANGE THE FRONT SPEAKERS. I think you got it loud and clear.
Better option is to change it to 6.5" components and fit the woofers in the doors and tweeters in the base of A pillar or near to mirror controls.

Yes the front ones can and better be powered by the amp rather than the HU itself.
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thnx speedzak..
actually, the sound clarity is not upto the mark...something is missing, particularly the crispness.

Now, I can't fit 6" in the front as I do not want to cut the doors etc.
So, what are the options in the 4" size?

I am totally new to all this, but I feel changing the speakers is a better bet than changing the HU, and power the front speakers from the amp.
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thnx speedzak..
actually, the sound clarity is not upto the mark...something is missing, particularly the crispness.

Now, I can't fit 6" in the front as I do not want to cut the doors etc.
So, what are the options in the 4" size?

I am totally new to all this, but I feel changing the speakers is a better bet than changing the HU, and power the front speakers from the amp.
Actually, 4inches are very small! (ask any lady to confirm that)
You need atleast a 5.25incher to do some job. Putting speakers in the door wont do any harm. And if you can find a good installer he'll make the doors more beautiful with the speakers in. Ofcourse, cutting is needed or you'll have to make an enclosure on the door. Get in touch with a good installer. Or folow some Santro install threads in the forum.
That crispness missing in your setup can be achieved by a good set of components in the front.
So, the change should be like this. 4" = OUT!! 5.25" components = IN!! HU = can stay for the moment.
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What about the cost and options for 5.25" or 6" components for the front?

I ll seacrh other santro install threads for installing the front speakers in the doors?
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5.25" compos start frm 5k or so. I use GT0426 at frnt powered frm Pio 6000 amp. Speedzak can comment on the quality of the speaker even at full vol.

but since I have compos at back, mine's a bit backstage thingy,still taht 4 inch works great. Size does matter though ..sometimes...emm. I would suggest a compo at frnt,provided you get it done by a good installer.
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Hello Adxing,
go for GTO 936e(300 watts) or GTO 937(300 watts) in JBL or
FRC 3369 (150 watts) in rockford fosgate or
FPS 693 (300 watts) in Fusion this speakers are damm good
best of luck
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Hello Adxing,
go for GTO 936e(300 watts) or GTO 937(300 watts) in JBL or
FRC 3369 (150 watts) in rockford fosgate or
FPS 693 (300 watts) in Fusion this speakers are damm good
best of luck
Are you recommending these for the front? I think ADXING is looking forward for a change of front speakers. And components would be better in front than a co-axial.
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Old 28th August 2006, 12:43   #25
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I already hv GTO 936 at the rear..
looking for better front speakers, as the Sony ones given by the dealers are not upto the mark

how abt GTO437 as suggested by JKD?
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I just talked to the accessory shop...and he said there are couple of options in 4" - like a kicker component or a JBL 436?

experts, please comment!
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5.25'' components are not fitted in santro dash board provision
only 4'' compos are suitable it will cost around 4500 to 10800
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Old 28th August 2006, 13:08   #28
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4" Kicker's are good

But i would suggest you listen to different sets before finalizing it for you.

I had the same difficulty chosing for my Santro.

After listening to JBL, Kicker, Lightning Audio,and Morel.

I selected Morel for Front driven by JBL 60.4 Amp

Have a look
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/vbpicg...?do=view&g=354
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thanks rareone..

My car is 1 week old, and somehow I can'tconvince myself to cut the doors to fit the front speakers.

So, for now, I have to live with 4" speakers.. the only options I have I feel is JBLGTO426 or Kicker 4" compos. I will go to the installer..hear both and decide. I feel the JBL ones should be much cheaper as well..any idea abt the price of kicker 4" component?

Which one you guyz suggest?
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4" kicker components.

Dash is not a good place for keping speakers as it will not give a good imaging. So, when your car gets old enough for the doors to be trimmed a bit, dump these 4" and get yourself a 6.5 component system.

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5.25'' components are not fitted in santro dash board provision
only 4'' compos are suitable it will cost around 4500 to 10800
It can be done! Though not recommended. Search around the forum to find out how.

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