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Old 27th August 2015, 12:16   #16
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Infinity's 120.9 is hard to beat. The Focal Solid subwoofer (not the P30) I heard was more musical but did not have the headroom the 120.9 has. I'd stick to what I have heard and I have not heard Focal's P30.
No issues Navin. There aren't any reviews on the Focal P30's as well so I will not risk buying it.

I've spoken to the dealer in Chennai for the Kappa 120.9 , right now he doesn't have stock and asked to call back 1st week of next month , so fingers crossed.

If I'm not lucky I will go with either the Rockford Fosgate P3 12 or 10 inch which has outstanding reviews.
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There aren't any reviews on the Focal P30's as well so I will not risk buying it. If I'm not lucky I will go with either the Rockford Fosgate P3 12 or 10 inch which has outstanding reviews.
I have little trust in review of the magazines and internet websites. They often get paid to write good ones. I have a few trusted friends (who also know my tastes) and my own ears.
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Old 27th August 2015, 20:28   #18
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I have little trust in review of the magazines and internet websites. They often get paid to write good ones. I have a few trusted friends (who also know my tastes) and my own ears.
Actually they are customer reviews on amazon , I don' trust magazines and other paid sites.
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Actually they are customer reviews on amazon ...
Perceptions and aural sensitivities differ amongst different people. What to someone else sounds superb, may actually sound commonplace or worse for you. Best is to audition and trust only your own ears (and what lies in between), or those of a set of people who have the same reference for an objective comparison (as Navin described). Subjective comparison usually leads to disappointment and 'buyer remorse'!
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The S2 will do fine. If the 937 fits in the rear, use the money saved to damp the doors or treat yourself and your significant other for a nice dinner.
Strangely I've ordered the 165 AS ( somehow I just liked the way it looked ) , now waiting for it to arrive ,. I hope it sounds better than the S2 or it's just waste of my money

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This is only power cable. There are 2 ways to power your amps.


I prefer the later.
How many meters of the Polycab power cable do I need to order ? If I don't get this , Can you suggest me some other good cables that I can buy from ebay or amazon india ?

Please suggest good cables from Amplifier to speakers and one cable from my Pioneer amp to the Mono block amp and one between the mono amp and subwoofer.

For damping I'm thinking of going with Dampmat Flex , hope it'll be enough.

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Perceptions and aural sensitivities differ amongst different people. What to someone else sounds superb, may actually sound commonplace or worse for you. Best is to audition and trust only your own ears (and what lies in between), or those of a set of people who have the same reference for an objective comparison (as Navin described). Subjective comparison usually leads to disappointment and 'buyer remorse'!
I definitely agree but as I mentioned before , these speakers are not available near me for auditioning. If I have to buy just by auditioning I can only choose from JBL , Pioneer and Sony.

I just got to trust some reviews and Navin and be contended with what I get , I'm sure it will be infinitely better than the 3 brands I mentioned above.
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Infinity's 120.9 is hard to beat. The Focal Solid subwoofer (not the P30) I heard was more musical but did not have the headroom the 120.9 has. I'd stick to what I have heard and I have not heard Focal's P30.
So I've just received my 165 AS Focal speakers. Yippee , pretty excited

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I'm still confused with choosing the sub's though. Status as below

1) Infinity Kappa 120.9 W - Difficult in finding one , no one seems to have it

2) Focal SB P30 sub - This is available for around 15,000 Rs. I enquired with some owners ( 2 owners ) and all say it would be excellent for my kind of use. I'm still sceptical since it's ported.

3) Rockford Fosgate P3D412 - Not able to find it anywhere yet.

4) Rockford Fosgate P3D410 - This is the older model with 400 watt RMS and some say it's better than the newer 500 Watts models even. It's available for 8,500 Rs.

5) Morel Primo 124 Sub - I chanced to chat with a dealer from ************* and he told me for my application this would be the better sub compared to the ones above. Obviously he would say it since he's the dealer for that brand . hope he's not here on our forum Price : 13,430 Rs.

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1) Infinity Kappa 120.9 W - Difficult in finding one , no one seems to have it

2) Focal SB P30 sub - This is available for around 15,000 Rs. I enquired with some owners ( 2 owners ) and all say it would be excellent for my kind of use. I'm still sceptical since it's ported.

5) Morel Primo 124 Sub - Obviously he would say it since he's the dealer for that brand . hope he's not here on our forum Price : 13,430 Rs.
I have heard the Morel Primo (I have their Ultimos). They are pretty good. The Infinity 120.9 if memory serves me right were better (again these were in 2 different systems, yet I would have gone with the 120.9 if it were available)

Having not heard the Focal P30 I cant comment. Another option might be Polk's Momo.
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I have heard the Morel Primo (I have their Ultimos). They are pretty good. The Infinity 120.9 if memory serves me right were better (again these were in 2 different systems, yet I would have gone with the 120.9 if it were available)

Having not heard the Focal P30 I cant comment. Another option might be Polk's Momo.
I'm loosing hope in the Infinity Kappa 120.9 W , seems like even the distributor does not have it

I'm now deciding between the Morel Primo , Rainbow SL S12 and Rainbow DL S12. Which one do you think is a VFM option wrt to SQ and punch ?
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I'm loosing hope in the Infinity Kappa 120.9 W , seems like even the distributor does not have it

I'm now deciding between the Morel Primo , Rainbow SL S12 and Rainbow DL S12. Which one do you think is a VFM option wrt to SQ and punch ?
Go for the DL S12 as it has a single 4ohm voice coil. The SL S12 has 2 x 2ohm coils and is designed to be wired in series for 4 ohms or parallel for 1 ohm (yes there are some mad monoblock amps that are stable to 1ohms). Your amplifier is not one of these so stick to the DL S12 or Morel Primo.
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Go for the DL S12 as it has a single 4ohm voice coil. The SL S12 has 2 x 2ohm coils and is designed to be wired in series for 4 ohms or parallel for 1 ohm (yes there are some mad monoblock amps that are stable to 1ohms). Your amplifier is not one of these so stick to the DL S12 or Morel Primo.
I actually changed my mind on the amplifier , planning to go for the Rainbow Beat 1 amp. Will this amp support the SL - S12 and make it sound better than the DL ? I'm just waiting for your word and will get it ASAP.
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Question Need Urgent Help deciding between Morel Ultimo / Rainbow SL S12 / Rainbow Vanadium 12 Subwoofers

Guy's I need urgent help to decide between the Following subwoofers + Amp combos since I never heard any and can't audition them as well.

1) Morel Primo 124 sub + Digital Design AM1 amp

2) Rainbow SL S12 sub + Rainbow Beat 1 amp

3) Morel Primo 124 sub + Rainbow Beat 1 amp

4) Rainbow Vanadium 12 sub + Cheap 500-600 watt amp with cost of around 15-18k.

5) Gladen RS 12 sub - This will be available this month end , but can wait for it as it has very good reviews from customers.

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5) Gladen RS 12 sub -
Get this with the Beat 1 amp. Hope it is the same dealer which sells both.
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Get this with the Beat 1 amp. Hope it is the same dealer which sells both.
Done deal. He doesn't have stock of the Gladen but I will get the Beat 1+ amp from him now.
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I've spoken to the dealer in Chennai for the Kappa 120.9 , right now he doesn't have stock and asked to call back 1st week of next month , so fingers crossed.
Did you check with Haresh Jethwani? Though he pushes Focal products but I sourced my 120.9 from him last year in November'14.
Costed around Rs. 9400/-(Not sure about current prices)
Haresh - 98-41-197787
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Did you check with Haresh Jethwani? Though he pushes Focal products but I sourced my 120.9 from him last year in November'14.
Costed around Rs. 9400/-(Not sure about current prices)
Haresh - 98-41-197787
Yeah I spoke to him already. He too told that the Kappa 120.9 is discontinued now
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