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Old 1st December 2006, 01:07   #46
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Which Amps,Speakers are used ?
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80w must be with a HP XO say 12db/octave at 3000hz I assume. Right?
That's still a lot for a tweeter.
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That's still a lot for a tweeter.
Not really my vifa tweeters are XOed at 12db at 2500hz. Since their Fs was about 1200Hz I felt it was safe. I use a 2 x Fs (atleast 2nd order) rule for most HPFs.

Tweeters are damaged more by excessive excursion than by excessive power.

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Tweeters starts tearing and starts hitting ears when excessive power is given to them or even tried to bridge on the HU outputs,one thing ive noticed is these are the most sensitive components in the car,adding these creates alot difference the sound quality,tweeters ive used till now are CD,Jbl,Sound-stream and Earthquake delievers sweet sounds if connected properly.They come in the price range of .7k - 2.2k,havnt ever used a TS20 Pio.

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Tweeters starts tearing and starts hitting ears when excessive power is given to them or even tried to bridge on the HU outputs,one thing ive noticed is these are the most sensitive components in the car,adding these creates alot difference the sound quality,tweeters ive used till now are CD,Jbl,Sound-stream and Earthquake delievers sweet sounds if connected properly.They come in the price range of .7k - 2.2k,havnt ever used a TS20 Pio.

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The TS20 is not a good tweeter. I would suggest you listen to Focal, Morel, Vifa etc... they are nicer. Vifa particularly makes a 26mm silk dome that is very relaxed.
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The TS20 is not a good tweeter. I would suggest you listen to Focal, Morel, Vifa etc... they are nicer. Vifa particularly makes a 26mm silk dome that is very relaxed.
hey navin
how much is this vifa tweeter for.. and is it easily available.
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hey navin thanx man i will suerly try to get the Focal, Morel and Vifa and test it in my another installation..ne idea abt the price segment so that i dnt get fooled man...lolz...


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hey navin
how much is this vifa tweeter for.. and is it easily available.
The D26NC I think has been discontinued. I am sure Tymphany (parent company of Vifa) has a newer replacement. It cost about $30 per pair in my days.
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i went to Sector-16 Noida car mkt today.
following are the confusions I have:

what is the difference between normal round front speakers and component speakers??
can normal round front speakers (GTO 527: 5") be connected to amplifier?

my car dealer suggested me to go for a normal subwoofer in a box instead of a bass tube...says there's hardly any sound quality difference...is it true???

can component speakers be fitted on the front gate of zen??
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what is the difference between normal round front speakers and component speakers??
can normal round front speakers (GTO 527: 5") be connected to amplifier?

my car dealer suggested me to go for a normal subwoofer in a box instead of a bass tube...says there's hardly any sound quality difference...is it true???

can component speakers be fitted on the front gate of zen??
Let's handle this one at a time.

A "normal" speaker is a co-axial speaker. Here tweeters/mids are mounted on the same axis as the woofer. Cost efficient, space efficient, good, but not ideal as often the tweeter is wrongly positioned, due to mounting restrictions.
A speaker with a seperate woofer and a seperate tweeter, which are mounted seperately is called a 2 way component. By far this is the most common type. However few products are available in a 3 way type, with a seperate woofer, midrange and tweeter. These are generally difficult to mount and a bit expensive.

Yes a regular "round" coaxial speaker can be connected to an amplifier. However, both with the regular speaker and component speaker, we recommend you use a high pass filter on your amplifier (preferably cut off at 70-90hz, but no hard and fast rule here)

All Subwoofers are essentially normal. The difference between a tube and a box is essentially in physical construction and also in the type of sound you get. That said, an enclosure accounts for half (or more) of the sound of the subwoofer. If you are buying a locally made box, please make sure it is not a GENERIC box (same box for all woofers)
Every woofer has different technical characteristics and all good woofers will tell you what size the box should be.

If you are not sure, or do not trust the handiwork of your local installer, it is better not to go for it.
Fail-safe is to go in for an enclosure, made by the company for the woofer, specifically.

You can fit 5.25" components quite easily on the front door (gate?) of the Zen. With a trim ring spacer, you can even fir a 6" component speaker. The tweeter of course is mounted near the A pillar of the car, higher up.

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so what do u recommend for front door??
coaxial or component (keeping in ming an GTO 60.4 amplifier is to be added)??
moolah (MONEY) not a problem as i can delay the subwoofer.
my priority is quality!!!
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which wires for amp are better?? JBL or Audison?
how can fake JBL wires be detected??
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so which front speakers should i go for?? coaxial or component?? i have to connect them to an amp (GTO 60.4).
budget not a major constarint.

which wire brand is better - audison or JBL??

how o ensure that the wire brand is original??
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Ggoyal,

You can get JBL Components and Amp Wiring kit from their dealer.
Click here to visit JBL's website. Or PM Sam Kapasi for more details.

For fronts go for Components only..
BTW How much you want to spend ?

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Also DO NOT get installation done from Sector-16. Their work is pretty shoddy as is evident from the cars of some members who have gotten stuff fitted from there. There are much better dealers in Delhi & it's only a 15 minute distance, so if you're looking for quality I would not recommend any of the Sector-16 dealers.
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