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Old 11th December 2006, 23:27   #16
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hey bro speedzak. that was quick heheheh .. thanx bro.. thats definately worth doing i agree, thank you very much bro.. ill definately go 3 way provided i can do it in the back and front.So its done.. ill get the 3 ways bro.. thank you..
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Old 12th December 2006, 10:03   #17
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hey bro speedzak. that was quick heheheh .. thanx bro.. thats definately worth doing i agree, thank you very much bro.. ill definately go 3 way provided i can do it in the back and front.So its done.. ill get the 3 ways bro.. thank you..
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Old 12th December 2006, 12:56   #18
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Head Unit

Alpine IVA-D310 - Already have with me bought for 1050 $

Speakers

Hertz HSK 165 - 2-Way Components (2 Sets)
Image Dynamics IDQ12 V2 Subwoofers (2 Sets)

Amps

Audison LRx 1.400 Monoblock For Subwoofer -
OR
Need Suggestions for a Bass Amp

Tru Tech T03 4.150 4-Channel Amp For Components

Wires& Accessories

Audison Capacitors BSF 1.3 Farad (2 sets)
Audison Grounding Terminal BGT21(2 sets)
Audison Battery Clamps SBC 41P (2 sets)
Audison Main Power Wire 2 Gauge MP2BL
Audison Speaker Wier FL 214
Audison SFH 11WP Fuse Holder For 2 Gauge Main Power Wire
Audison BFD 21 Distribustion Block With Fuse Holders
Stinger Expert Series 20 Foot RCA Interconnects ( 3 sets) -- already have with me. Paid 120 $ each.
Thats a lot of expensive sounding stuff. If the Pajero is a diesel, I presume you'll be getting a lot of sound insulation done as well.

Gears,
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Old 1st January 2007, 22:27   #19
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hello again everyone..
umm ok now i need to get my amps sorted.Considering the fact that all the amplifiers ( 4 channel tru- tech & monoblock audison-lrx) are now out of production.
Now as guruji gunbir said.... the new Audison LRX AB amps are worthy successor's to the amps that i had listed.
The following was what i had listed...
Head Unit

Alpine IVA-D310 - Already have with me bought for 1050 $

Speakers

Hertz HSK 165 - 2-Way Components (2 Sets)
OR
Hertz HSK 165.3 3-way Components ( 2 sets but only if not too much cutting of doors is involved. This choice can be made last minute too buy the Sir's)
Image Dynamics IDQ12 V2 Subwoofers (2 Sets)

Amps

For Bass :-
Audison LRx 1.400 Monoblock For Subwoofer -
OR
Need Suggestions for a Bass Amp

For Components :-
Tru Tech T03 4.150 4-Channel Amp For Components

Wires& Accessories

Audison Capacitors BSF 1.3 Farad (2 sets)
Audison Grounding Terminal BGT21(2 sets)
Audison Battery Clamps SBC 41P (2 sets)
Audison Main Power Wire 2 Gauge MP2BL
Audison Speaker Wire FL 214
Audison SFH 11WP Fuse Holder For 2 Gauge Main Power Wire
Audison BFD 21 Distribustion Block With Fuse Holders
Stinger Expert Series 20 Foot RCA Interconnects ( 3 sets) -- already have with me. Paid 120 $ each.


So now i have 1 small question sir's.. what amps and power ratings would you recommend for this setup ? or let me re-phrase this.. umm what would all you guru's do ??.. ( feel free to change anything you want ) heheheh .. oh btw.. HAPPY NEW YEAR...
thank you very much in advance already...
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Old 2nd January 2007, 00:17   #20
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Hello bro

a very Happy New Year to you too...

Tool, I can be more specific if I knew what Pajero you have. Do give model details, door, dash, boot pics etc.

Pending further details; here's what I recommend for a "basic" setup:

Head Unit > Alpine IVA-D310
Speaker Amp > Audison LRx 4.300
Front Speakers > Hertz HSK-165 (6.5", 2way comp)
Rear Speakers > Hertz HCX-165 (6.5", 2way coax)
Sub Amp > Audison LRx 2.500
Subs > Hertz HX300 x2 (sealed)
Audison Capacitors BSF 1.3 Farad (x1)
Audison Grounding Terminal BGT21 (x2)
Audison Battery Clamps SBC 41P (x2)
Audison Main Power Wire 2 Gauge MP2BL
Audison Speaker Wire FL 214
Audison SFH 11WP Fuse Holder For 2 Gauge Main Power Wire
Audison BFD 21 Distribustion Block With Fuse Holders
Stinger Expert Series 20 Foot RCA Interconnects (3 sets)

But, you asked me what would I do... hmmm.... this is fun

Ok here goes:

Head Unit > Alpine IVA-D310 (I would keep it, optical out to H701 processor)
Processor > Alpine PXA-H701 (this I would add, and I know you will like)

Speaker Amp > Audison LRx6.9 (70w x 4 + 75w x2)
Front Speakers > this is where it gets interesting...
Tweeters > Hertz Space 1
Midrange > Hertz HD500 Dome
Woofers > Hertz Space K6L
Run these active off the 6ch amp, level, delay and crossover through the Alpine HU via the H701 processor

Rear Speakers > None

Sub Amp > Audison LRx 1.1k (800w x1 @2ohms / 1090w x1 @1ohm)
Subwoofers > Hertz Air Mille 3800 (15"ers, ported)

Audison Capacitors BSF 1.3 Farad (x1)
Audison Grounding Terminal BGT21 (x2)
Audison Battery Clamps SBC 41P (x2)
Audison Main Power Wire 2 Gauge MP2BL
Audison Speaker Wire S214
Audison SFH 11WP Fuse Holder (x1)
Audison BFD 21 Distribustion Block (x1)
Stinger Expert Series 20 Foot RCA Interconnects (x3)

I know I know, its a bit extravagant, but hey! you asked me what I would do...
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Old 2nd January 2007, 01:01   #21
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wow.. heheh now thats a config !! WOO HOO.. made me droll all right
my paj is old.. 1999 model . its the 2.8 intercooler disel. ( i know im gonna need lots of dampning) hehehe. ok at this point i should probably mention my budget.. its around 2.5 L. Excluding the head unit. Buttt I still cant get over the config...
umm im lost for words here !!! sheeesh !! hehehehe. Talk about a spanner in the works.. hahahaha. My head just re-booted.
Ok here goes ,
i just have just a couple of points baba, i would like to have rear speakers and prefrably components if possible. Also would the LRx 1.1K work with pair of IDQ's? umm considering the music is psy trance ? Not to mention im in love with them too .. lol But Hertz is Super Duper OK with me tooo.
With everything else ... im cool with any config that fits . i know im in killer hands. I cant wait to come to delhi.. im there 27th Jan. Woo Hoo!!!
thank you again for everything !!!
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Old 2nd January 2007, 01:31   #22
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i just have just a couple of points baba, i would like to have rear speakers and prefrably components if possible. Also would the LRx 1.1K work with pair of IDQ's? umm considering the music is psy trance ? Not to mention im in love with them too .. lol But Hertz is Super Duper OK with me tooo. With everything else ... im cool with any config that fits . i know im in killer hands. I cant wait to come to delhi.. im there 27th Jan. Woo Hoo!!!
thank you again for everything !!!Big Boom .
OK here it is again, re-tooled :

Speaker Amp > Audison LRx6.9 (70w x 4 + 75w x2)
Front Speakers > Active 2way
Tweeters > Hertz Space 1
Midbass > Hertz Space K6L
Rear Speakers > Space K6L Set

Sub Amp > Audison LRx 1.1k (1090w x1 @1ohm)
Subwoofers > Image Dynamics iDQ12 D4 x 2
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Old 2nd January 2007, 01:51   #23
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WOW...
yep.. i think im done and dusted here lol.
thank you baba
just 1 question baba.. the power rating are continous right ? i know its a stupid question.. sorry..
Thank you very very much ....
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But, you asked me what would I do... hmmm.... this is fun

Ok here goes:

Head Unit > Alpine IVA-D310 (I would keep it, optical out to H701 processor)
Processor > Alpine PXA-H701 (this I would add, and I know you will like)

Speaker Amp > Audison LRx6.9 (70w x 4 + 75w x2)
Front Speakers > this is where it gets interesting...
Tweeters > Hertz Space 1
Midrange > Hertz HD500 Dome
Woofers > Hertz Space K6L
Run these active off the 6ch amp, level, delay and crossover through the Alpine HU via the H701 processor

Rear Speakers > None

Sub Amp > Audison LRx 1.1k (800w x1 @2ohms / 1090w x1 @1ohm)
Subwoofers > Hertz Air Mille 3800 (15"ers, ported)

Audison Capacitors BSF 1.3 Farad (x1)
Audison Grounding Terminal BGT21 (x2)
Audison Battery Clamps SBC 41P (x2)
Audison Main Power Wire 2 Gauge MP2BL
Audison Speaker Wire S214
Audison SFH 11WP Fuse Holder (x1)
Audison BFD 21 Distribustion Block (x1)
Stinger Expert Series 20 Foot RCA Interconnects (x3)

I know I know, its a bit extravagant, but hey! you asked me what I would do...
lord even im drooling now.... Shouldnt be reading Team-Bhp so early in the morning.. after such a long weekend...
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Old 2nd January 2007, 13:29   #25
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Tool will this car come back to Mumbai?
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Old 2nd January 2007, 16:11   #26
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hello.. good morning..
im still lost for words.. hehehe.
yes sir navin..
Firstly.. Happy new year to you . And this car is definately comming back to mumbai
It should be back here in the first week of feb i think with me.. now i just cant wait to get to delhi.
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hello again people
Now Guruji's i need advice on these Confirgurations. I am posting 2 configs. Both configs have the Front speaker Section Running Active.Which one would you take ?

Config 1

Head Unit :-

Alpine IVA-D310 With PXA -H701
Or
A Tube Surprise + Tru tech Active crossover.

Speakers :-

Hertz Space 2-way components K6L (2 Sets) ( 250 watt Max / 125 Watt Cont)
Image Dynamics IDQ 12 Subwoofers (2sets)

Amps :- This is where i need the Advice !!!!!!

Audison LRx6.9 6-channel (70w x 4 + 75w x2)
Audison LRx 1.1K Monoblock (800w x1 @2ohms / 1090w x1 @1ohm) For IDQ Subwoofers.

Now in this Scenario.. The Audison LRx 6.9 will power the front(active hence using 4 channels) and rears(not active hence using 2 channels).
The Power split would be as follows.

Front :- Active hence using 4 channels
70Wx2- Tweeters
75Wx2- Midbass
Rear :- Not active hence using 2 channels
70Wx2
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Config 2 :-

Head Unit

Alpine IVA-D310 With PXA -H701
Or
A Tube Surprise + Tru tech Active crossover.

Speakers

Hertz Space 2-way components K6L (2 Sets) ( 250 watt Max / 125 Watt Cont)
Image Dynamics IDQ 12 Subwoofers (2sets)

Amps - This is where i need the Advice !!!!!!

Audison LRx 4.300 4-channel ( 65Wx4 @4ohms)
Audison LRx 2.500 2-channel (200Wx2 @4ohms)
Audison LRx 1.1K Monoblock (800w x1 @2ohms / 1090w x1 @1ohm) For IDQ Subwoofers

Now in this Scenario.. The Audison LRx 4.300 (65Wx4 @4ohms) will power the front tweeters (active hence using 2 channels.) and rears(not active hence using 2 channels).
The Audison LRx 2.500 (200Wx2 @4ohms) will only power the Front Midbass(Hence making the Fronts Active).The Power split would be as follows.

Front :- Active hence using 4 channels
65Wx2- Tweeters - From LRx 4.300 ( 2-channels left for Rear )
200Wx2- Midbass - From Lrx 2.500 ( Used all 2-Channels)
Rear :- Not active hence using 2 channels
65Wx2 - From Audison LRx 4.300
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now which one of these scenarios would you take ? and why ?
thanx in advance for all the help and advice...
hope that stirred up some brain cells.. hehehe
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Tool, I would personally go for the first setup. Simply because it is simpler. And it doesn't compromise on power. Lesser amps, simpler wiring, lesser potential problems later.

The second setup powers the speakers in a pretty complicated way. Your front stage is powered by two different amps. There is certain to be some difference in the current (power) going into the different amps, and I feel this could cause some problems with the quality (and uhhh... synchronicity?) of output. I won't even begin to speak about how complicated the speaker wiring is going to be (forget the power wiring).

BTW whats A Tube Surprise? (Forgive my ignorance). You've covered amps, so it is not some exotic tube amp - that much I got :-)
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The second setup powers the speakers in a pretty complicated way. Your front stage is powered by two different amps. There is certain to be some difference in the current (power) going into the different amps, and I feel this could cause some problems with the quality (and uhhh... synchronicity?) of output. I won't even begin to speak about how complicated the speaker wiring is going to be (forget the power wiring).
There is no such scenario of current / power difference when using two different amps especially from the same manufacturer and lineup. There is no sychronicity problems, because you have active crossovers to take care of that.

Nothing sounds like properly tuned active system because it is tailored according to the car and listening preference.

Also the Time Alignment / Delay makes more sense in active system than passive system.

You can run an active system with Tube / Solid state Class A amps running the tweeters, Class AB running the midbasses and subwoofers powered by Class D amp. There are no issues anywhere and it will sound outstanding.
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i would suggest you to first listen to these set ups.adding additional amplifiers to power the speakers is a good option for better sound.
if i was you(i wish) then i would have definately gone for the second option.more the seperates better the sound!!but i still recomend to listen to it first.just LISTEN
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