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Old 27th February 2007, 12:17   #16
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No hydra, it's not bad for the woofer and it makes perfect sense, for those looking for a economic option to drive a DVC subwoofer like the Pioneer 306.
Bridge each pair of 6100F to one voice coil.

And that pioneer amp is decent, hardy and sounds pretty good.

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Old 27th February 2007, 22:13   #17
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Pioneer 6100 Is for around 7k? And is it Two channel or Mono? For what is and ideal good working Mono available to run a 306 DVC???
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Old 27th February 2007, 23:13   #18
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Pioneer 6100 Is for around 7k? And is it Two channel or Mono? For what is and ideal good working Mono available to run a 306 DVC???
6100 is a 4 ch amp....in 4 ch mode it is 65 x 4 at 4 ohms and in bridge mode it is 150 x 2 at 4 ohms....if 6100 is for 7k then I would recommned a mono block d510 it will costs 10k approx......as it will be a better choice....
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What Navin meant by 'not ideal' was perhaps in reference to the fact that a Class D monoblock like the Alpine will put out more power to the subs than the meek 6100, and that would be good for the subs.
I am old fashioned....that is my legacy and limiation. I'd prefer a monoblock that could dump 300W into 2 ohms (4+4 in parallel) that a stereo amp (bridged 6100) that can put out 150W x 2.

Monoblocks (like the D510, Sony SDxx, JBL 301.1 etc) SHOULD be designed to dump a lot more current that a budget 4 ch. amp bridged to 2 channels. Driving a sub is a lot abot dumping current. A subs impedance may be 2 ohms or 4 ohms but as B&T, Sam, Gunbir, Autophile and the other gurus will tell you the sub's resistance is not 4 ohms (or 2 ohms) across the entire freq. spectum (20Hz to 100Hz in case of a sub). It is a reactive (read as inductive load) and a high current amp will be more likely to better control the sub than a regular amp.
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Old 28th February 2007, 11:35   #20
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Well, I guess I have my answer

Using a 4-ch on a DVC will not sound as good as using a Mono. But it won't damage the sub anyway.

I've been looking for a way to upgrade my ancient Kenwood sub and I've been drooling over an IDQ12-D4 v2 for a while now. But there's no way I can afford an IDQ and a good Monoblock, both at the same time for many many months to come.

So, if my old 4-ch Blau amp doesn't get sold in a couple of months (I've been in two minds about selling it) I'll probably get the IDQ and run it off the 4-ch Blaupunkt, till I can afford to upgrade to an Audison SRx1 or an SRx2S.

And somebodystopme, sorry for hijacking the thread. It happened before I knew it was happening
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Old 28th February 2007, 16:03   #21
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The IDQ subs are really great!! I almost was going to put one into my car yesterday. But then decided to wait for the Audison amps to reach the shore.

Hydra!! I would recommend you to go forward with the purchase of IDQ!! Or you can wait till it starts playing in my car.

And regarding the SRX1, it is better to go with SRX2!!!
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well a IDQ 10 will be also terrific for the type of music you hear hydra>>> they will also run off practically anything.... im using a 6100 bridged... terrific SQ...IDQ's are a league apart...
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I would like u to go in for D510 for subs with closing your eyes i am sure

you will not regret it i am big big fan of D510

the bass it produces and note of the bass superb cannot

imagine.........
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I would like u to go in for D510 for subs with closing your eyes i am sure

you will not regret it i am big big fan of D510

the bass it produces and note of the bass superb cannot

imagine.........
D510 is which brand? what are its specs and cost?
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well a IDQ 10 will also run off practically anything.... im using a 6100 bridged... terrific SQ...IDQ's are a league apart...
Oh? Man, I thought ID drivers are very hungry? 6100 running an IDQ with that kind of SQ? Somebody please clarify. Did I think wrong?
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Oh? Man, I thought ID drivers are very hungry? 6100 running an IDQ with that kind of SQ? Somebody please clarify. Did I think wrong?
ID subs demand a little more power than commonly available subs, but they pretty much make up for it with their low frequency extension. I would get into the power curve and stuff like that, but its boring at this time of the night, so I hope the previous statement suffices.

I have heard SK's setup, the bass is very nice. But he keeps it damn loud man.
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I have heard SK's setup, the bass is very nice. But he keeps it damn loud man.
some like it loud and some like it LOW........
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Oh? Man, I thought ID drivers are very hungry? 6100 running an IDQ with that kind of SQ? Somebody please clarify. Did I think wrong?
I had an iDQ12 in my car running in a sealed box off 200w for the longest time. It was very nice and i was quite satisfied... till I heard it with double that power. So while they work well with low power, they really come into their own with more power.

Once of the best iDQ installs I have heard has to be Tool's car thats running 2x iDQ12 subs running off 1000w or thereabouts.
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D510 is which brand? what are its specs and cost?
It is Pioneer's Monoblock amp, It is 1000w max class-D monoblock amp and costs around 10k.
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D510 is which brand? what are its specs and cost?



i would rather consider it 500 watts rms as the 1000 watts is the peak value or o can say a marketing gimick....
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