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Old 4th February 2013, 22:10   #391
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Hi Folks,

Am looking to upgrade the stock speakers [front only] in Tata Safari 2012. I am thinking of installing component speakers. Can anyone let me know what is the stock speaker size in safari? Is it 6.0 inches or 6.5 inches?

My budget is 6k? How about JBL GTO-609c? what is the best price that i can get this model in Bangalore? Any other options in 6k range and from where can i source it?

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I believe (from memory alone) that both jumpers open are used when biamping and both are closed when using a single 2 channel amplifier.

I would PM Bass and Trouble (Ajay kamath) as he has some knowledge here.
Navin, Sir, did you have a word with Ajay regarding the issue?
I have another query. Can crossover be used for driving just the midbasses? Without using tweeters?
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Old 5th February 2013, 10:18   #393
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I would PM Bass and Trouble (Ajay kamath) as he has some knowledge here.
I meant "if I were you I would PM B&T". I guess I was not clear in my post. Sorry.

PM B&T and he will give you information first hand instead of getting it second hand via me.
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Gurus, need advise on a decent SQ Head Unit to replace my Kenwood 7016. I would like the head unit to have decent tuning capabilities and 3 RCA Pre-outs as I would like to add a Sub woofer to my current setup consisting Rainbow Comps and ID Coax in the rear. My Budget is around 20K but can be extended a bit if needed. Thanks in advance for your inputs.
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Gurus, need your help again.

I have installed illusion carbon nd6 in the front slots.

As erar fills, I have kenwood coaxials doing the duty.

I also have the illusion lucent lm6 mid basses lying idle with me.

I wish to use the lucents as the rear fills, powered directly by the HU.

How do I do it, is my query? Should the mids be connected directly to the HU, or should crossovers be used.

I do not want to use the tweeters for the same logic that these are to be used just as rear fills.

Advice please.
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... illusion lucent lm6 mid basses lying idle with me.

I wish to use the lucents as the rear fills, powered directly by the HU.

How do I do it, is my query? Should the mids be connected directly to the HU, or should crossovers be used. ...
Your mid-basses wouldn't go significantly higher than 4KHz - they were meant to be used with the tweeters and XO that come with it (as components). Without the tweeters, they will not sound good - the current coaxials are will be better.

XOs are used to split frequencies going to the mid-bass and tweeter. If there are no tweeters, the mid-bass can be connected to HU directly without XOs.
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Is it possible to have the MMI maps in this entry level Pioneer HU (AVH-X1590DVD)?
If so, how much would that cost?
I browsed the pioneer website and I could not find any mention of that.
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... I browsed the pioneer website and I could not find any mention of that.
You were searching for MMI, and not Navigation!

There are 2 ways:
1. Use a Smartphone or Tab with the AppRadio mode. You need to talk to Pioneer India to find out which devices are supported, since the site only talks of Apple iPhone 4/4s and iPad (possibly iPod Touch too?). You can install Sygic app and MMI maps and use them. The device supplies the GPS receiver and runs the navigation application, and the HU then acts as an extension touch-screen display. Needs an accessory cable from Pioneer (not sure, but possibly the original device USB cable may also work)

2. Use the Pioneer Navigation unit available separately. This connects to the RGB connections of the HU to show display, and possibly USB to accept the touch input from the touchscreen of the HU. Not sure whether MMI maps can be installed on this extension unit - Pioneer should be able to clarify. Ask. This navigation unit comes with a GPS receiver and mounts in the dash conveniently

Pioneer India site is hopeless (no one has done QA, and the designer is more bothered about aesthetics than information) - so you need to call them up and ask. Check on Pio sites of other countries for information on accessories - the interfaces are standard and would work with HUs meant for India
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I have installed illusion carbon nd6 in the front slots.
As erar fills, I have kenwood coaxials doing the duty.
I also have the illusion lucent lm6

How do I do it, is my query? Should the mids be connected directly to the HU, or should crossovers be used.
What is powering the ND6 and Kenwood coaxials? The HU?
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What is powering the ND6 and Kenwood coaxials? The HU?
The ND6 are being powered by two channel amplifier, while the rear fills are being powered by the HU.
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The ND6 are being powered by two channel amplifier, while the rear fills are being powered by the HU.
Then leave it alone. The midwoofers will extend at best to 3khz or so (remember what you are hearing from them is off axis response).
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Dear All,
I just picked up a Honda City VMT but found the quality of music completely below par or maybe my expectations were too high after sitting in the Accord (2004) and the 320d. Could you please recommend a really good speaker/amp system etc without changing the HU which would give you similar sound quality? I don't want a hardcore bass dominated sound setup. Just a lot of clarity.

Preferably a budget of 20-22 (Without changing HU)

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... Honda City VMT ... Could you please recommend a really good speaker/amp system etc without changing the HU which would give you similar sound quality? I don't want a hardcore bass dominated sound setup. Just a lot of clarity.

Preferably a budget of 20-22 (Without changing HU)
And I thought even the worst of the installers have moved on from the "hardcore bass dominated sound setup" today. There was a period where everyone put chilla-chilla tooters, and then there was a period of neighborhood-waking-up bass - but that was a bygone era.

1. First go and audition some good components - Infinity, Morel, JBL, Rainbow, JL Audio, Auditor, Bull, ... you will like the sound signature of some, and hate some. Let your ears decide. 6-12K

2. Get a Kenwood, JBL or Pioneer 4-channel amp ~6K

3. Get coaxials - either round for rear doors or 6x9 ovals for parcel shelf ~4-6K

4. Not sure whether the OE HU has Pre-outs or not. If not, then you may have to get a LOC (line output converter). You would also need some good RCA and power cables
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A query,

I have a Figo with a set up I have added over couple of years. Which includes,

Pioneer HU,
Blaupunkt 4 Channel Amp
PolkAudio Subwoofer(not sure of the size-around 300w)
JBL ovals on the parcel shelf(200w, i think)
Pioneer tweeters up front

What I want to do is, add Hertz Component speakers . Not sure if I want to replace the front door stock speakers which are connected now , to the HU with the component or replace the rear JBLs with the components.
The sub and the JBLs are connected to the amp.

The model of component speakers I am looking at is Hertz ESK165.

Any inputs are welcome.
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... Not sure if I want to replace the front door stock speakers which are connected now , to the HU with the component or replace the rear JBLs with the components. ...
You should replace the OE speakers in the doors with components (and donate the Pio tooters to charity).

Please check the stock speaker size in Figo - is it 6.5" round or 5"x7" oval? If it is the latter, look for 5x7 components (5x7 oval midbass + 1" tweeters). One needs to do some jugaad to fit a 6.5" round midbass in the 5x7 OE mount.

Once you change to components, drive the components with 2 channels in the amp, and bridge the other 2 channels to drive the sub. Shift the rear ovals to the HU. Tune the system well, and you will find the difference over the current system very palpable.
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