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Old 10th August 2007, 15:06   #46
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Lovely. Thanks for the clarifications. Now letsee the options -

A)
GTO 607C, GTO 75.4, Wires - 20K
+ Existing Kenwood 4029 HU, Kenwood Rear coax, Soomoku

B)
Illusion EL6.1, GTO 75.4, Wires - 20K
+ Existing Kenwood 4029 HU, Kenwood Rear coax, Soomoku



Leaving aside the sub. If I spend another ~4K, which should I get first for better SQ ?

1. Change HU to Pioneer 3950 (2 pre-outs, so no Y-connector reqd I guess) ?

2. Change rears to GTO 637 (better rear fill powered by the 75.4) ?
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Leaving aside the sub. If I spend another ~4K, which should I get first for better SQ ?

1. Change HU to Pioneer 3950 (2 pre-outs, so no Y-connector reqd I guess) ?

2. Change rears to GTO 637 (better rear fill powered by the 75.4) ?
get the HU especially if you drive.
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Leaving aside the sub. If I spend another ~4K, which should I get first for better SQ ?

1. Change HU to Pioneer 3950 (2 pre-outs, so no Y-connector reqd I guess) ?

2. Change rears to GTO 637 (better rear fill powered by the 75.4) ?
Between 1 & 2, I'd vote for 1. No contest at all

Get the HU. The extra 4K spent will give better results overall with a new HU, than with better rear fill.
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A)
GTO 607C, GTO 75.4, Wires - 20K
+ Existing Kenwood 4029 HU, Kenwood Rear coax, Soomoku

B)
Illusion EL6.1, GTO 75.4, Wires - 20K
+ Existing Kenwood 4029 HU, Kenwood Rear coax, Soomoku


Leaving aside the sub. If I spend another ~4K, which should I get first for better SQ ?

1. Change HU to Pioneer 3950 (2 pre-outs, so no Y-connector reqd I guess) ?

2. Change rears to GTO 637 (better rear fill powered by the 75.4) ?

As I told in the beginning, 12k is a good budget to start with for an ICE upgrade.

I will also choose the option 1. But can't you just get that 5950 with 1k more?
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Have been following this thread closely to see what the final outcome is.
From 10k to 30k, am loving it. shuvc all the best .

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I will also choose the option 1. But can't you just get that 5950 with 1k more?
Zakko you are a devil I must say .
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Zakko you are a devil I must say .
Nono. He is not. I'm sure of that. I repeat, it's only his intentions that ain't noble.

Ok @zakkie, let me toe your line for a while. So for 1K more for the 5950, what do I get extra that would matter to me ? Isn't the basic CD playing capability of the 3950, 4950 and 5950 the same ?

@rj !!!! 30 ?? Where did that come from now ? I implore you, please don't float such ideas !

Anyway, the trick here is how I phase out the expenditure. Whoever said I'm spending all 24K at one go ?
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@rj !!!! 30 ?? Where did that come from now ? I implore you, please don't float such ideas !
Relax mate !! I read this post wrong, thats all. Should have mentioned 25k instead of 30k . Mis-read the 30 hours, thats all. Peace .
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Between 1 & 2, I'd vote for 1. No contest at all

Get the HU. The extra 4K spent will give better results overall with a new HU, than with better rear fill.
I agree with this. It is splendid to have 3 pre-outs. If you're using a sub (in your case, something that just about passes off as one ), 6x9s are not very essential, and you can always add them after the head unit if you're still feeling rich.
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It is splendid to have 3 pre-outs. If you're using a sub (in your case, something that just about passes off as one ),
Naughty Naughty B&T. You're a bad boy.
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I agree with this. It is splendid to have 3 pre-outs. If you're using a sub (in your case, something that just about passes off as one ), 6x9s are not very essential, and you can always add them after the head unit if you're still feeling rich.
3 pre-outs !! But that would be the 4950 and upwards ???

Sigh - I was at most referring to the 3950. In fact I've been looking at 2950 specs and here I see people giving me free upgrades to 4950/5950s !! Ok theek hay, I'll listen, but ek shart pe. Someone please give me approx prices of these 3 HUs.

Also, I was never considering 6x9s. Only 637 6"s. 'Coz if at all I replace them, I'd like them to fit the stock location. No cutting-shutting.

Now on the topic of the sub. I refuse to be drawn into a discussion on that right now ! Nahi nahi, abhi nahi .. lala lala lala laaa aaaa.

And by the way - all this planning on paper does make me feel rich. Feeling like a crown prince. At the same time dreading the moment I'll use the ATM balance enquiry option and see wonderland come crashing down. That's when I might have to go to Page 1 of this thread and look at the initial options .
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The difference in price between the 3950 and the 4950 in grey is not more than Rs. 500/-. The 4950 must be about 5500/-
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Fisr of all apologies to shuvc for taking a free ride on his thread.

My baleno upgrade is done.
Up-front I have the JBL GTO 637 powered off Pioneer 4750
Rears are JBL 937 ovals, fitted on raised frames so that the metal of the shelf does not need cutting, powered off JBL CS60.2.

The rear speakers sound simply awesome.
Dunno what happened to the fronts, they sound puny. Perhaps wired out-of-phase, I will check myself over the week-end.
In any case, I was not able to amplify them as the HU has only rear pre-out.
Hope to God it's out-of-phase, it's the only cloud on the horizon, otherwise I am very pleased with my new set-up.
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@filcord, I think the fronts sound that way (in comparison to the rears) because you have not amped them. I doubt if the reason is the out-of-phase issue. But do check that anyway.

If the HU will not let you give pre-out to the front channel (I think there must be a workaround for this in the HU itself -- I'm not familiar with the 4750), you can give speaker-level input to the 60.2 (from the front-speaker wires) and amp the fronts.

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Lovely. Thanks for the clarifications. Now letsee the options -

A)
GTO 607C, GTO 75.4, Wires - 20K
+ Existing Kenwood 4029 HU, Kenwood Rear coax, Soomoku

B)
Illusion EL6.1, GTO 75.4, Wires - 20K
+ Existing Kenwood 4029 HU, Kenwood Rear coax, Soomoku

the option A will give you bright sound than the option B. Add a sub and HU to it and enjoy music
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Fisr of all apologies to shuvc for taking a free ride on his thread.
Hey !! No need to apologise ! It IS after all a general thread for Partial ICE upgrades for the Baleno
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