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Old 20th August 2007, 11:56   #1
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Hi,

I recently bought an Aveo 1.4

My take on the Aveo: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...-review-2.html

I got the following components installed from Driven's in East Of Kailash.

HU: Pio 5950
Rear Speakers: JBL GTO937
Front Speakers: 4" company fitted (will replace with components later)
Amp: JBL 60.4
Sub: Currently testing Pio 307D2, earlier tested Pio 306C for a week
Custom made MFD box
Power Cables: Tsunami

The guys took a lot of time to fit the system and I feel they did a very good job with the installation.
Although I am reasonably happy with the current sound, I would like to know whats settings(amp and HU) would be ideal for this setup.
I listen to all kinds of music, ranging from Jazz, Instruments, Hop Hop/RnB and the usual hindi/punjabi stuff.

The audio accessories guy suggested the 306 over the 307 to me as he was quite confident it was much better. So I tried out the 306 for a week, played quite a few songs of different genres and with the current Amp setting (which I have no clue about) and some adjustments in the HU, the sound output though powerful, felt a little boomy to me, in other words the bass I felt wasn't tight enough at times.

Yesterday, got the 307D2 fitted in the same MFD box. With the same settings, my observation is that the bass is much tighter now, but somehow the power of the 306C is missing.
So if I compare the two, I would say the 307 sounds better to me, but the lack of power (although its 200 watts pmpo more than 306) is bothering me a little.

Would really appreciate if you guys can suggest the ideal settings so that I can get my setup tuned better. Also suggest me which one is a better sub-woofer of the two with the right tuning.

Thanks.

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Old 20th August 2007, 12:48   #2
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Hi,

I recently bought an Aveo 1.4

My take on the Aveo: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...-review-2.html

I got the following components installed from Driven's in East Of Kailash.

HU: Pio 5950
Rear Speakers: JBL GTO937
Front Speakers: 4" company fitted (will replace with components later)
Amp: JBL 60.4
Sub: Currently testing Pio 307D2, earlier tested Pio 306C for a week
Custom made MFD box
Power Cables: Tsunami

The guys took a lot of time to fit the system and I feel they did a very good job with the installation.
Although I am reasonably happy with the current sound, I would like to know whats settings(amp and HU) would be ideal for this setup.
I listen to all kinds of music, ranging from Jazz, Instruments, Hop Hop/RnB and the usual hindi/punjabi stuff.

The audio accessories guy suggested the 306 over the 307 to me as he was quite confident it was much better. So I tried out the 306 for a week, played quite a few songs of different genres and with the current Amp setting (which I have no clue about) and some adjustments in the HU, the sound output though powerful, felt a little boomy to me, in other words the bass I felt wasn't tight enough at times.

Yesterday, got the 307D2 fitted in the same MFD box. With the same settings, my observation is that the bass is much tighter now, but somehow the power of the 306C is missing.
So if I compare the two, I would say the 307 sounds better to me, but the lack of power (although its 200 watts pmpo more than 306) is bothering me a little.

Would really appreciate if you guys can suggest the ideal settings so that I can get my setup tuned better. Also suggest me which one is a better sub-woofer of the two with the right tuning.

Thanks.

Arup
hi arup,

what amp are you usind to drive the sub? your sub is a dual 2 ohm sub right?

i had a 306c in my earlier install and it is powerful. i havent heard 307 so cant comment on its performance.

the bass from the 307 could be missing compared to the 306 because of the enclosure. im not sure about this but i think the enclosure dimensions of both the subs differ and that could be the reason.

what type of enclosure do you have?(ported, sealed etc) and how is your sub wired?

the best settings for the HU is to keep the loud off, eq flat.

cheers
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Can you use the same sized enclosure for the 306 and the 307??
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Can you use the same sized enclosure for the 306 and the 307??
Depends of the T/s specs dude.
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Hi,

Just checked the Pioneer site,
It says 'Recommended Enclosure Use: 0.85 ~ 1.75 Cubic Feet' for both, the 306C and 307D2 subs.
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How much did the HU and rear speakers cost ? Is the HU compatible with a steering remote ?
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what is 307 D2; 2 2 ohm voice coils or 2 4 ohm voice coils?

I think you were using 306 SVC off 2 channels bridged in 4 ohms, now only 1 coil is being used (if 4 ohms) or both the coils (if 2 ohms) to present a 4 ohm load. either ways, the bass would be more or less the same.

and yes, enclosures can be same.
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what is 307 D2; 2 2 ohm voice coils or 2 4 ohm voice coils?
D2 means 2 VC of 2 ohms each. and D4 means 2 VC of 4 ohms each.
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Thanks LBM....I was suspecting the same.
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Hi guys, I am still waiting for an answer.
I think the box (enclosure) issue has been resolved as both the subs (306 and 307) can be fitted in box of the same dimensions.

Would really appreciate if you guys could suggest the ideal settings for the Amp and HU with my current setup. Also your suggestions on whether to keep the Pio 307D2 or go back to the 306.

I am posting the specs of the components below:

JBL GTO937 Speakers Specifications

Power Handling, RMS: 100 Watts
Power Handling, Peak: 300 Watts
Frequency Response: (3dB) 50Hz-21kHz
Sensitivity : 94dB
Mounting Depth: 2-15/16" (75mm)
Cut-Out Diameter: 8-11/16" x 5-7/8" (151mm x 221mm)
Impedance: 2 Ohms

Pioneer TS-W307D2 Sub Specifications

Watts MAX. Music Power: 1200 Watts
Watts Nominal Power Handling: 400 Watts
Frequency Response: 18 ~ 500Hz
Sensitivity: 89dB
Ohm Rating: (1 or 4 ohm)
Recommended Enclosure: 0.85 ~ 1.75 Cubic Feet
Dimensions: 327 mm x 172 mm
Mounting Depth: 153 mm

JBL 60.4 Amp Specifications

Power Output : 60 watts RMS x 4 channel at 4 ohms and = 1% THD + N
S/N Ratio : 86dBA (reference 1 watts into 4 ohms)
Dynamic Power : 145 watts at 2 ohms
Effective Damping Factor : 6.39 at 4 ohms
Frequency Response : 10Hz - 27kHz (-3dB)
Maximum Input Signal : 6.0V
Maximum Sensitivity : 100mV
Dimensions : 2.2" x 13" x 10.3"

I can post some pictures of my ICE setup if needed.

Thanks.
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I was very lucky that Gunbir Ji was visiting Driven's yesterday.
He graciously accepted to listen to my sound setup and made the necessary changes.
And indeed the tweaks done by him have made the sound much better and cleaner now.

Thanks once again.
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I own an Aveo 1.6 LT (March 2006, Amber metallic colour). I have the factory fitted, integrated MP3 player with a decent sound quality. Is there a way to upgrade my speakers to better ones without needing to fiddle with the wirings? Is there a possibility of using a hidden sub woofer? I'm an expert in the mechanicals of cars, though i'm a slouch in ICEs....
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Is there a way to upgrade my speakers to better ones without needing to fiddle with the wirings? Is there a possibility of using a hidden sub woofer? I'm an expert in the mechanicals of cars, though i'm a slouch in ICEs....
The easiest thing to do is to get an amp which has speaker level inputs and run the speaker out from your HU to the amp. Then you can add any speakers you desire (JBL, Blaupunkt, etc...). An upgrade such as this would run you about 15K+ (7K for the amp and 8K for 4 speakers).

If you want to add a sub look for an amp that allows 2 channels to be bridged and used with a subwoofer. Some amps even allow a wired level controller for this bridged channel allowing you to even set the level of the subwoofer from the cabin. A compact sealed 10" subwoofer will run you about 8-10K - 5-7K for the sub + 2-3K for a custom box.

In this later case your HU will then drive the rear speakes while the amp drives the front speakers and subwoofer.
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