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Old 13th September 2007, 12:30   #61
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LBM bai ji Steg will be out of budget,wish i could afford them :-( ,
What about other mono's? Alpine have few V12 models!!
The alpine MRD-1005 is for 29k and is for 1000 watts rms at 2 ohms and 700 watts at 4 ohms. the smaller cousin is for approx 20k range which is having 600 watts at 2 ohms and 400 watts at 4ohms and the above rating are at 14.4 volts which will reduce quite a bit at 12 volts and even low at 11 volts. As I have experience the same while using MRD-1005.
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Gill, all these prices are with B&W....so need not worry! Since you are planning to get your stuff from US, decide upon the item first, trust me it'll be much cheaper! (the way I told you!)
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The alpine MRD-1005 is for 29k and is for 1000 watts rms at 2 ohms and 700 watts at 4 ohms. the smaller cousin is for approx 20k range which is having 600 watts at 2 ohms and 400 watts at 4ohms and the above rating are at 14.4 volts which will reduce quite a bit at 12 volts and even low at 11 volts. As I have experience the same while using MRD-1005.
LBM my sub's powerratings are 100w-400w rms so Alpine MRD 1005 is too powerfull for the curent setup and i don't see any upgarde in case of sub comming up in near future!! Smaller cusion can be considered.
BTW my sub is 2OHMS dual voice coil.

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Gill, all these prices are with B&W....so need not worry! Since you are planning to get your stuff from US, decide upon the item first, trust me it'll be much cheaper! (the way I told you!)
Yes pankaj,blau i was considering was 2 channel,now i am planning to go in for dedicated amp for my sub.Once the product is finalised,then will need ur help to find a deal on net!
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Old 13th September 2007, 17:28   #64
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Yes pankaj,blau i was considering was 2 channel,now i am planning to go in for dedicated amp for my sub.Once the product is finalised,then will need ur help to find a deal on net!
Go for JBL 301.1; it can pump out app 300W @ 2 ohms, which is pretty decent. Somehow I find the ratings of Blau fabricated (like audiobahn!)
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why do you want to go mono when you can get a powerful 2ch amp for the same price?

a mono would be useless unless it is stable down to 1 ohm. i.e. you parallel the voice coils for a 1 ohm load. in series you get 4 ohm so a mono is not a good option.

get a 2 channel amp. a powerful 2 channel amp in bridged mode will give good output. for example an audison srx2s. it not in your budget but its just an example. it pumps out 600w bridged 4 ohms.

im not a fan of class d amps. i dont like them. but im not forcing you to buy a 2ch so its up to you what you want to buy.

LBM, why suggest steg? gill does not want to spend that much. his budget is around 10k if im not wrong.

what you can do is, get an audison srx2 if you can stretch your budget to 13-14k. you can power the fronts on this and power the sub and the rear fills on the jbl you have. just an opinion.

otherwise, the kenwood 8401. atleast try and have a listen if you can. the jbl you have is good for sub duty.

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why do you want to go mono when you can get a powerful 2ch amp for the same price?

a mono would be useless unless it is stable down to 1 ohm. i.e. you parallel the voice coils for a 1 ohm load. in series you get 4 ohm so a mono is not a good option.

get a 2 channel amp. a powerful 2 channel amp in bridged mode will give good output. for example an audison srx2s. it not in your budget but its just an example. it pumps out 600w bridged 4 ohms.
Can you explain that a little? What ohms DVC is it? 2?
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Can you explain that a little? What ohms DVC is it? 2?
AMP is DVC 2 Ohms!Currently working on series as 4 ohms load.

a mono would be useless unless it is stable down to 1 ohm. i.e. you parallel the voice coils for a 1 ohm load. in series you get 4 ohm so a mono is not a good option.

See clip the power handling for ID is in range of 100W-400W,will it work on an amp that's pumping out 600W on 1 Ohms
get a 2 channel amp. a powerful 2 channel amp in bridged mode will give good output.

Adding a 2 channel amp looks a better option as it gives out an option of future upgrade(Either be upgrade to biiger amp or Another ID 10" )

im not a fan of class d amps. i dont like them. but im not forcing you to buy a 2ch so its up to you what you want to buy.
Anyone plz throw some light on this:-class D mono sub n Simple Mono Sub,tried to serch it on the forum but culdn't find anything relevent

otherwise, the kenwood 8401. atleast try and have a listen if you can. the jbl you have is good for sub duty.
I intend to drive front n rear with JBL75.4, and drive the sub with some more power(350-400W) so that we can extract more out of the sub!

And another imp question :-i have seen few amps giving out X wats@12V and Y wats@14.4v where as a noraml car gives out 13.4 to13.8 v current,so how realistic these figuers are!!! and what one should focuss on while selecting the AMP.In most of the cases they don't show 12V power ratings!!
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I agree with clip 100% on the srx2s. if you get the srx2s you can use 2 channels of the 75.4 for the rear fill, and the other 2 channels bridged to drive the sub (like you are doing now). The front stage will really come alive with an srx2s.

The advantage of adding srx2s instead of adding a mono is that:
1) Better front stage
2) If you want to go ballistic later, you can upgrade to two IDQ 10s (Yessssssss) and keep the rears running off the HU. i'm sure you'll stop wanting rear fill soon. I too wanted rear fill at first, but now I really don't need it.

That Kenwood HU is reportedly pretty good

Gill, you are building a pretty serious system, huh?
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Can you explain that a little? What ohms DVC is it? 2?
gill has a dual 2 ohm sub. an id10" dvc 2+2 ohms.

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i did suggest the audison srx2s but it is really out of his budget. IMHO it is the best amp for the price. but think it is out of gills budget.

an srx2 would be more suitable price wise. it pumps out around 65w x 2 at 4 ohms. 65 watts of clean audison power at 12v iirc. it can do around 170w bridged.

so an srx2 would be good. srx2s would be simply awesome.

and i agree with you on the rear fills. you will soon realize that they are not needed. i never use mine. earlier, i used to say i will only listen to the rears(pure punjabi style nonsense) but when i installed those beautiful sounding and looking comps, i forgot what rears are. i have never listened since i got the comps installed. you will, i know you will say they are unnecessary.

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i have seen few amps giving out X wats@12V and Y wats@14.4v where as a noraml car gives out 13.4 to13.8 v current,so how realistic these figuers are!!! and what one should focuss on while selecting the AMP.In most of the cases they don't show 12V power ratings!!
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nice work guys where did you put the tweeters on hope to see a pic of that
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The advantage of adding srx2s instead of adding a mono is that:
1) Better front stage
2) If you want to go ballistic later, you can upgrade to two IDQ 10s (Yessssssss) and keep the rears running off the HU. i'm sure you'll stop wanting rear fill soon. I too wanted rear fill at first, but now I really don't need it.
you can always keep the rear speakers adn simply use the fader.

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i have seen few amps giving out X wats@12V and Y wats@14.4v where as a noraml car gives out 13.4 to13.8 v current,so how realistic these figuers are!!! and what one should focuss on while selecting the AMP.In most of the cases they don't show 12V power ratings!!
12V ratings are not as flattering.
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Gill, dont go tooo much on figures; You want to enjoy clean crisp sound....just match the app RMS @14.4V, few watts here and there doesnt make much of a difference in practical life.

Ah!! I never noticed yours in 2+2 DVC, in this case the best option would be to go in for 2 channel that pumps out app 400W RMS in bridged mode and wire your sub in series to present a 4 ohm load, mono would be a waste of money.
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gill,

12v ratings are more useful than a 14.4v because your charging system never goes anywhere near 14.4v.

forget the mono. and your sub IMHO is fine with 284w. i dont think more power is needed. add another sub if you want more bass with an amp for the front stage.

get a good 2ch amp for you front stage. let the sub and the rear fills be on the jbl. earlier, you wanted little bass so a setup was suggested according to that. you could have easily bought a hertz energy 12" for more bass. you wanted an sq install and you have it.

what is your budget for the amp? 150-200$? let us know so that we can help you decide the best in your budget.

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My budget for amp is upto 200$,Front stage has nominal power ratings of 100W rms and 75.4 gives out 104w rms,so i think it's fairly matched,what does everyone say on this!!What good a dedicated 2channel for front will do??
Now sub being 2ohms dvc,we can run it in 4 ohms,1 ohms mode right?? plz correct me if i am wrong,can i run it on 2ohms mode too.....

Right now sub is getting 284 w rms, i think there will be considerable difference if amp can put out 400w RMS!!Rishaab what do see??
Will giving more power to sub will effect the over all sound dynamics!!
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