Go Back   Team-BHP > Under the Hood > In-Car Entertainment


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 13th October 2007, 01:31   #1
BHPian
 
shrivz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Pune, MH12
Posts: 603
Thanked: 92 Times
Default Audiophilia Nervosa!!!

I've recently been considering an ICE upgrade and have had sleepless nights over the same!

I'm no audiophile, not even close to one, but
I've been thinking about different brands, which would sound better.
I've been trying to fine tune my existing JBL setup so that they don't sound as bright!
And I've recently got a whacky idea of doing a cheap DIY for 3-way components in the front!

I've not been enjoying my music! I've been scrutinizing my speakers. Listening to the speakers and not the song! changing settings on every track!

GOSH!!

Suhail calmed me down today! Finally!

and come to think of it! am I a victim of Audiophilia Nervosa!!??

for those who don't know what audiophilia nervosa is, check this out: The Audiophilia Nervosa Test

Where has the music gone! why am I not singing along (that's something I loved doing)
Am I just being too critical about things! Why?? Is it actually worth it!!

Trust me, I was much happier the day I got my install completed and had my EQ set to +4 bass, +4 mid and +2 High, with loudness and sla on full!!

Are/Have any of you experiencing/experienced this sort of behaviour, where everything begins and ends at your audio system? Please share your bit and assure me that I'm not the only mad man around!
shrivz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2007, 01:40   #2
BHPian
 
vikram18's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: pune
Posts: 615
Thanked: 19 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shrivz View Post
Please share your bit and assure me that I'm not the only mad man around!
You met me in the evening and you still feel you're the only one?
vikram18 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2007, 08:51   #3
Senior - BHPian
 
hydrashok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: In my Office
Posts: 2,528
Thanked: 14 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shrivz View Post
...
And I've recently got a whacky idea of doing a cheap DIY for 3-way components in the front!
Ah, good! Not whacky, but praiseworthy. Looking forward to seeing a new thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by shrivz View Post
......
Are/Have any of you experiencing/experienced this sort of behaviour, where everything begins and ends at your audio system? Please share your bit and assure me that I'm not the only mad man around!
Welcome to the club! But I think you have been among the oldest members anyway. Just that you didn't quite know it
hydrashok is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2007, 09:00   #4
Senior - BHPian
 
rjstyles69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Bengalooru..
Posts: 4,345
Thanked: 789 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shrivz View Post
Are/Have any of you experiencing/experienced this sort of behaviour, where everything begins and ends at your audio system? Please share your bit and assure me that I'm not the only mad man around!
Aah it aint only you. I have gone through this and still continue to do once in a while.

What I did was stopped fiddling around too much with the tuning part of the ICE and shifted to hip-hop and rock.

This is what happens when you listen to loadsa trance .
rjstyles69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2007, 09:12   #5
BHPian
 
Flying Bong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 271
Thanked: 2 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shrivz View Post
I've recently been considering an ICE upgrade and have had sleepless nights over the same!

I've been thinking about different brands, which would sound better.

I've been trying to fine tune my existing JBL setup so that they don't sound as bright!

I've not been enjoying my music! I've been scrutinizing my speakers. Listening to the speakers and not the song!

Where has the music gone! why am I not singing along (that's something I loved doing)

Are/Have any of you experiencing/experienced this sort of behaviour, where everything begins and ends at your audio system? Please share your bit and assure me that I'm not the only mad man around!
@shrivz

Happens to the best of us - I remember how great the music sounded when I setup my ICE, now I think of imaging, soundstaging, tonality etcetc...if I may venture a suggestion - why dont you get some new music, especially stuff you are not too familiar with?

Personally I've found that 'audiophilia nervosa' symptons are more acute (lol) when one is listening to music one has heard many times before...
Flying Bong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2007, 09:29   #6
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Sam Kapasi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Mumbai (but wat
Posts: 6,989
Thanked: 1,452 Times
Default

Believe me boys, I've been saying this since I got to this section a few years ago.
It's about the music. Nothing else.

Let it go. Buy yourself a decent system and forget about it. Buy the best you can afford - then forget about it. It's not the JBL, Illusion, ID and Blaupunkt that complete the experience.
It's Jean-Luc Ponty, Dave Matthews, Jagjit Singh and Eminem.

Don't lose that. Ever. Otherwise your whole ICE is just a waste.
Sam Kapasi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2007, 10:04   #7
GTO
Team-BHP Support
 
GTO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bombay
Posts: 47,735
Thanked: 89,308 Times
Default

Quote:
It's not the JBL, Illusion, ID and Blaupunkt that complete the experience.
It's Jean-Luc Ponty, Dave Matthews, Jagjit Singh and Eminem.
Priceless statement! Well said and just so true.
GTO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2007, 10:06   #8
BHPian
 
Amey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Pune
Posts: 679
Thanked: 189 Times
Default

See Shrivz, i did exactly like Sam just said, got whatever i could in my budget and i am happily listening to music and enjoying it
Amey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2007, 10:51   #9
BANNED
 
viper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 1,769
Thanked: 8 Times
Default

Shrivz,

You are not alone. Even I am going nuts figuring out why I am not enjoying the music when the same setup in another car used to sound good and powerful. In the present scenario I find the system inadequately powered and not sounding good.

I dont know what to blame and what to upgrade if required.

Viper

Quote:
Originally Posted by shrivz View Post
I've recently been considering an ICE upgrade and have had sleepless nights over the same!

I've not been enjoying my music! I've been scrutinizing my speakers. Listening to the speakers and not the song! changing settings on every track!

Where has the music gone! why am I not singing along (that's something I loved doing) Am I just being too critical about things! Why?? Is it actually worth it!!

Are/Have any of you experiencing/experienced this sort of behaviour, where everything begins and ends at your audio system? Please share your bit and assure me that I'm not the only mad man around!
viper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2007, 10:55   #10
BHPian
 
Amey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Pune
Posts: 679
Thanked: 189 Times
Default

@ Viper,
I am no audio guru but dont you already have a very very sweet setup ?
Although i havent had the pleasure of listening to your setup, i am sure it sounds great.

With that kind of setup, you are still not happy ?
Amey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2007, 11:37   #11
BHPian
 
shrivz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Pune, MH12
Posts: 603
Thanked: 92 Times
Default

Thanks guys..

Quote:
Originally Posted by sam
Believe me boys, I've been saying this since I got to this section a few years ago.
It's about the music. Nothing else.

Let it go. Buy yourself a decent system and forget about it. Buy the best you can afford - then forget about it. It's not the JBL, Illusion, ID and Blaupunkt that complete the experience.
It's Jean-Luc Ponty, Dave Matthews, Jagjit Singh and Eminem.

Don't lose that. Ever. Otherwise your whole ICE is just a waste.
I'm back to being myself!!
Just going to complete my setup by adding a subwoofer and thats the end of it! no 3-way **** shat.. no nothing.. its just the music now!!

phew.. what a relief!

Thanks!
shrivz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2007, 11:39   #12
BHPian
 
Amey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Pune
Posts: 679
Thanked: 189 Times
Default

Good, nice to know, you are returning back to normal :P

Btw which sub ? GZ, JBL ???
Amey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2007, 11:39   #13
BHPian
 
shrivz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Pune, MH12
Posts: 603
Thanked: 92 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hydrashok View Post
Ah, good! Not whacky, but praiseworthy. Looking forward to seeing a new thread
sorry mate! thats not happening!

I'd rather spend that money on doing up the interiors.. to enhance the overall experience!
shrivz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2007, 11:41   #14
BHPian
 
shrivz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Pune, MH12
Posts: 603
Thanked: 92 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amey View Post
Good, nice to know, you are returning back to normal :P

Btw which sub ? GZ, JBL ???
"Stick to one brand and the same series in that brand"
shrivz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th October 2007, 11:53   #15
Team-BHP Support
 
navin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: mumbai
Posts: 22,505
Thanked: 3,882 Times
Default

I've been chasing the holy grail for a bit now.

1. If the system does not get your foot tapping, your heart singing, and your body swaying (no matter how stoic you are) I'd say dump it and get something that does.

2. Dont buy brands. Buy the Magic. Long ago I decided that most brands have lost the Magic or worse still never really had it. Everything is built to a price point and by accident a particular combination of components ends up sounding good in a particular enviroment with specific music. Hence I went AWOL (read as DIY).

With DIY you can configure the sound to your tastes, to your room, to your music and to your budget. Now Sam will come in and warn everyone that Navin is taking all of you off the deep end and not to listen to the Mad Piper. Maybe you shouldn't but as for me I am enjoying my jorney. If I never get to the destination it is fine, I'll just savor the moments of Magic along the way.

3. Stop chasing numbers. On this forum there is a thread on SNR and Distortion. Numbers dont make good music and besides are you going to listen to your system while looking at an oscilloscope. Start listening. Really listening. Go to every live concert (preferably with acoustic instruments) you can cause even that monkey man with the simple hand drum (the one with the 2 skins and strings) can make more listenable sounds than a Wilson Audio-Jeff Rowland/Krell combo.
navin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search



All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 05:32.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks