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Old 10th December 2007, 23:26   #46
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Nice Work BR for a first attempt...
Well, I don't know what effort has to go in for a fibre glass build, but atleast lookin at your documentation I can say that you have done it with utmost commitment to details. And that's where success lies...
Keep rOcK!nG!!!
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Looks great. Can the MDF mould be use to make more copies of this housing?
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Old 11th December 2007, 09:41   #48
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He He ! trust me, it's my first FG install ever
What!

You are jolly good!
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Old 11th December 2007, 10:36   #49
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Excellent Job !! Best door pods I have seen, too good for the first attempt. Keep it up.

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Excellent work there buddy! Great tutorial!

Now, I'm getting Ideas!

Kudos!
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Looks great. Can the MDF mould be use to make more copies of this housing?
Copies cannot be made of this setup, as that is possible only for car Body kits etc which are purely fabricated in Fiberglass.
This is a combination of wood, fiberglass, paste and paint. Hence as far as I know it's a custom job everytime.
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Copies cannot be made of this setup, as that is possible only for car Body kits etc which are purely fabricated in Fiberglass.
This is a combination of wood, fiberglass, paste and paint. Hence as far as I know it's a custom job everytime.


So how is the first fiberglass bumper prototype made, before a mold of it is made and then replicated 14 billion times?
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WOW!!! satya....it looks beautiful...

Clear my doubt.......will a same woofer played in a proper MDF box sound different and better than a woofer setup using fiber glass(as seen in most of the show cars) ?
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So how is the first fiberglass bumper prototype made, before a mold of it is made and then replicated 14 billion times?


Mpower asked whether copies of this mould can be made as this one is done already. So I assume the first bumper also is done after which the 14 billion copies are made.
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WOW!!! satya....it looks beautiful...

Clear my doubt.......will a same woofer played in a proper MDF box sound different and better than a woofer setup using fiber glass(as seen in most of the show cars) ?
IMO it sounds a lot tighter because of the build of rock solid fiberglass, its can be built smaller than boxes and it is lighter than a complete MDF box (unless some major 5mm layer of paste and paint has been done)
The other more experienced people can elaborate more than what i said.
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Moreover......manuals with the woofers, generally dont say anything about the fiber glass use. All they speak about it MDF.
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This is a combination of wood, fiberglass, paste and paint. Hence as far as I know it's a custom job everytime.
If you used PVA between the wood and the FRP the FRp wold not stick tot he wood and the wood mould could be re-used.
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If you used PVA between the wood and the FRP the FRp wold not stick tot he wood and the wood mould could be re-used.
@Satya\Navin: Correct me if I am wrong. I think the wooden rings and supporting wooden pieces act as a skeleton for the FRP pods and become a part of the fabrication. They are necessary to provide rigidity to the fabrication and hence cannot be removed. I have seen Anwar's fabrications and he leaves those wooden rings in there even after fabrication, probably the same here with Satya's install. Hence they cannot be used as a die\mould directly.

In order to make more pieces, one will need to make a prototype(same as Satya's finished product but before painting). Then follow instructions provided by Navinji. IMO, he will need two prototypes, one for each side. But I doubt it would have the same rigidity as achieved by Satya in his fabrication.
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@Satya\Navin: Correct me if I am wrong. I think the wooden rings and supporting wooden pieces act as a skeleton for the FRP pods and become a part of the fabrication. They are necessary to provide rigidity to the fabrication and hence cannot be removed. I have seen Anwar's fabrications and he leaves those wooden rings in there even after fabrication, probably the same here with Satya's install. Hence they cannot be used as a die\mould directly.
More like, they cannot be removed. They form the skeleton just like the fabric. It is not so much to do with rigidity as making the skeleton in the absence of a mould. If there is a mould, there is no need for the mdf.
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Yes that can be done, in contrast to a single layer of Fiberglass, about 2 to 3 layers can make a mould strong enough and rigid to hold speakers, the base also can be made with Fiberglass in such cases. This would indeed make it lighter, but I doubt the long life of it considering our road conditions causing continuous stress on the structure holding the speakers, it's not like it would break or anything, but vibrations will happen over course of time.
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