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Old 14th December 2007, 23:28   #16
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I think the guy who posted that must be crack.Without a sub i cannot imagine.Whatever if it SPL or SQ sub plays a major role.
I agree 100%, no point in arguing. Perfect answer.
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I have no real knowledge of ICE. I use a pair of comps in front in my car and pair old very old 'Woodstock' floor standers at home. BUTTT in my limited PERSONAL experience i have always found a sub to be useless. For fun sake at times yes...but little else.

Regarding this particular post...i would agree to this fact atleast that a subwoofer is no real deal for good, asthetically appealing music.

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I have no real knowledge of ICE. I use a pair of comps in front in my car and pair old very old 'Woodstock' floor standers at home. BUTTT in my limited PERSONAL experience i have always found a sub to be useless. For fun sake at times yes...but little else.

Regarding this particular post...i would agree to this fact atleast that a subwoofer is no real deal for good, asthetically appealing music.

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Guru's please answer to his opinion.I think he is wrong.May he dont need it.Still how can he listen to the low without a sub.If i am wrong please correct it.
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Guru's please answer to his opinion.I think he is wrong.May he dont need it.Still how can he listen to the low without a sub.If i am wrong please correct it.
dude that his personal opinion, tell what you like for the sake of this thread which has been anyways started.
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i think what he is trying to state in the post is that,don't go all out on the sub.make sure you have a very good fronstage before you start getting into the sub's sq and spl tonality.he is basically stressing on the use of good components to get mids/highs while you shouldnt really be worried too much about the sub.whats the pooint if the 0.3" of the spectrum is nice while the rest of the 99.7% from the components/speakers is crap.atleast thats what i could make out from the first line "too much emphasis is placed on the sub these days"thats what i could infer from the post.i could be very wrong though.

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i have always found a sub to be useless. For fun sake at times yes...Regarding this particular post...i would agree to this fact atleast that a subwoofer is no real deal for good, asthetically appealing music.
my observations

1. poor quality bass is worse than no bass (as long as there is good midbass).
2. some music like baroque does not need a sub, some like Hip-Hop cant be enjoyed without one
3. the spectral energy in music varies greatly from genre to genre - case in point baroque vs Hip-Hop. However one rule of thumb that works well is that 50% of the energy is below about 300hz and 50% above it.
4. PuffDaddy obviously is not fully informed or maybe he's been puffing something.
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PuffDaddy obviously is not fully informed or maybe he's been puffing something.


I guess you are right about puff daddy.
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i think what he is trying to state in the post is that,don't go all out on the sub.make sure you have a very good fronstage before you start getting into the sub's sq and spl tonality.he is basically stressing on the use of good components to get mids/highs while you shouldnt really be worried too much about the sub.whats the pooint if the 0.3" of the spectrum is nice while the rest of the 99.7% from the components/speakers is crap.atleast thats what i could make out from the first line "too much emphasis is placed on the sub these days"thats what i could infer from the post.i could be very wrong though.
What he's trying to say is that people shouldn't be picky when choosing a sub for their system, which is completely wrong. You can't plonk any sub and expect it to perform. There are far too many factors that go into choosing the right sub.

Choosing your sub is as important as any other component that makes up your Home-Theater, ICE etc.

An 8 octave piano can produce frequencies between 27.5hz and 4186hz. So if my speakers have a range of say 48hz - 20,000hz, what happens to the notes below 48hz? Or do they become less important just bscoz someone thinks these frequencies aren't required?

No offense, but people who think subs aren't important have trouble differenciating between low frequency notes and low frequency boom.

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I guess you are right about puff daddy.
Arrey what does he know... he hasn't even realized its "P Diddy" now

P Diddy... diddy... diddy, diddy, diddy, diddy, diddyyyyyyyyyyyyyy (to the tune of the theme from Pink Panther)



Gentlemen... Its clear we are all on the same page (pun intended), so Mods please close this pointless thread.
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Arrey what does he know... he hasn't even realized its "P Diddy" now

P Diddy... diddy... diddy, diddy, diddy, diddy, diddyyyyyyyyyyyyyy (to the tune of the theme from Pink Panther)



Gentlemen... Its clear we are all on the same page (pun intended), so Mods please close this pointless thread.
Oh my god!

Is there anything more to be said? I don't think so!

@LBM, don't regret your purchase of the GZ plutonium due to this PDiddy!
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