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Old 19th February 2008, 23:07   #1
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Hello ICE-Gurus,

After going through so many threads about CARs I feel like I've joined college again and I am doing project on ICE & Modifications. I am getting my Swift delivered very soon and have to decide on ICE

After reading through different threads on Swift audio I have narrowed down to following:

Head Unit
Alpine 9883: Rs 14K

Speakers:
Front: Infinity Ref Componets: Rs 7800
Rear: Infinity Ref Co-axials : Rs 4800

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Front Polk Coaxials: Rs 4400
Rear Polk Coaxials (Oval) : Rs 4500

Wooden Plank & Fitting : Rs 1000k

I would like to get your feedback if the above choice & Price sounds right. I am not planning on woofer or amps.

How good is Polk compared to Infinity? Infinity if I recall correctly has range starting from 40Hz which is good bass. Polk is around 43Hz. Couldn't get a demo for Polk so it would be great if someone can let me know their reviews.

With respect to audio quality will it make significant difference if I manage to stretch budget and get head unit like 9887 or 9885.

I don't like very high treble but a lil good Bass is surely appreciated.

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Sounds good, @Raptor_IC, but a bit odd that you are comparing Infinity Reference components with Polk coaxials for the front. Go for the components in front - you will not regret it. Polk is not VFM. Don't go by the Hz figures alone, there is more to sound reproduction than physics.

For the rear, consider Infinity ovals (if you want the same brand) or JBL GTO937 (if you can mix and match).

Did you audition the speakers? If not, that should be your first step. Also, compare with other brands such as Blau (THx, Mandovi Motors), Illusion (Electra, PM @s0uljah - he has just installed them in his car), Hertz (Energy), and others if you can. Infinity & JBL you can audition at Sound Factor, Lavelle Road.

Plank and fitting 1000K? Gold-plated or typo?

Alpine 9883 is a good choice. 9885 and 9887 have more features - higher price justified if you need them, especially the Time Alignment in 9887 if you ever want to put a sub sometime. Where are you getting them from?

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Don't go by the Hz figures alone, there is more to sound reproduction than physics.
Sound reproduction is mostly physics with a bit of the black art thrown in. But often Manufacturer Specifications dont tell the whole story. So yes the Infinity Components should sound better than the Polk Coax.
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If you don't like it bright, buy the Infinitys. Try to audition a few more brands like DerAlte mentioned.
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Sound reproduction is mostly physics with a bit of the black art thrown in. But often Manufacturer Specifications dont tell the whole story. So yes the Infinity Components should sound better than the Polk Coax.
That is more important than the physics part (which is standardized to the extent of reference tables) - it differentiates one brand / model line from another. "Made in China" is relevant only to the extent of vendors/sources of cones, surrounds and voice coils.
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"Made in China" is relevant only to the extent of vendors/sources of cones, surrounds and voice coils.
Danke DerAlte!!! How people get caught up with tags and countries.
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Thanks @ DerAlte.

Will surely audition the brands that you mentioned. and 1000K for plank & fitting was surely a typo...

9887 is costing me 8K more ie 22K (grey).
B&W is not available.
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I am doubhting if external amps are being used then would there be difference in clarity when the HU pioneer and not alpine?
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9887 is costing me 8K more ie 22K (grey).
B&W is not available.
AFAIK, 9887 should be 22K WITH b&w, and it is not available in grey. @hydrashok, @shuvc, amongst others, have the same, I think. Worth the extra 8K - future-proof, since your listening preferences will mature and you will be wanting more (like amp, sub) soon enough.

Maybe the others can compare whether the 9885 is justified over 9883?

@nripin, though opinions would differ, to most an Alpine HU sounds really good even as compared to a Pio, without amp and sub. The difference is USB (Alpines never have it but have iPod support as standard), Bluetooth etc.

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I am doubhting if external amps are being used then would there be difference in clarity when the HU pioneer and not alpine?
Did not get your questions !!!

If the external amp is used it will be play cleaner when compared to HU amp.
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AFAIK, 9887 should be 22K WITH b&w, and it is not available in grey. @hydrashok, @shuvc, amongst others, have the same, I think.
I wish I did ! I use a humble Pio 4950 - for now

@LBM, I think what he is asking is this.
If an amp is used, then, does it matter what HU is used for playing the source?

@nripin, from what limited info I have gathered here, it would matter. I would guess, that the quality and characteristics of the CD transport mechanicals and the DAC would vary (or is there a DAC in the amp too?). How perceptible that difference is, would vary between different listeners.

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@LBM, I think what he is asking is this.
If an amp is used, then, does it matter what HU is used for playing the source?

@nripin, from what limited info I have gathered here, it would matter. I would guess, that the quality and characteristics of the CD transport mechanicals and the DAC would vary (or is there a DAC in the amp too?). How perceptible that difference is, would vary between different listeners.

Ok the sound will be cleaner in both the HU. But will be sounding differnet.

@shuvc-> you left the power supply.
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... @shuvc-> you left the power supply.
As in "(or is there a DAC in the power supply too?)" ???
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Thanks everyone!! Now I just have to convince myself to spend that extra 8K. Most of the places I checked 9887 was not available. Can anyone let me know shop address where I can get alpine 9887(genuine) with B&W.
Although I like to pick out bass lines from song, at present don't want to go in for sub & amp. Just enough bass from speakers should do......
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As in "(or is there a DAC in the power supply too?)" ???
I think there can be to give the feed back of the output voltage.
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