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Old 12th March 2008, 11:21   #181
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About the Sub. I have not seen Carbon in action, But I wanna add here that this GZ is the Fastest sub I have listened in my whole life nothing goes faster than this.
I don't know about the GZ being fast and all but the Carbons are definitely fast and light subs. For SQ I would pick those any day over the GZ, but thats just me.
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I don't know about the GZ being fast and all but the Carbons are definitely fast and light subs. For SQ I would pick those any day over the GZ, but thats just me.
Spot on - Sir.

Exactly what I believe too.

I have used 2 Carbons - ND 12's in a 'sealed box' in my Swift. They sure are fast.

I have also used 2 GZ Subs in my RS - I forget the model - B & T - will know better. They are dedicated SQ subs. However, I 'prefer' the ND 12's to the GZ's.
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Hello Bhagwan!

The "subs" you have in the RS is actually a sub + radiator - The SQ line Uranium Series GZUW 12X 12" and the matching passive radiator GZUP 12. I'm sure you know this but have made a typo.

I think it sounds perfectly fine, as good as a conventional subwoofer driver gets. But you just can expect it to sound as quick as the Illusion Carbon. But then that's why "God" created Time Alignment.

Perhaps this should make some interesting reading for you.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/ask-gu...tml#post248202
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There are radiators for subwoofers? Do they get so hot?
Do you fill it with coolant-water solution?
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There are radiators for subwoofers? Do they get so hot?
Do you fill it with coolant-water solution?
Arre uncle it is not the engine wala radiator. It is this one.

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:: Ground Zero :: Subwoofer / GZUP 12

It is woofer without motor. Like car without engine.

The Subwoofer DIY Page - Passive Radiator Systems

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Old 12th March 2008, 15:24   #186
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There are radiators for subwoofers? Do they get so hot? Do you fill it with coolant-water solution?
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Arre uncle it is not the engine wala radiator.
Nitrous, read about Passive Radiators here.
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hmm interesting stuff.
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Old 12th March 2008, 16:51   #188
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Please tell me that was a 'poor joke' !!!



This is too good;;
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i would like to ask here, what is the benefit in terms of sound quality? What is the difference between using just a sub and a sub with a passive rad?

i have never heard this kind of a setup so please shed some light on this b&t/Gunbir/'B'
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Please tell me that was a 'poor joke' !!!



This is too good;;
B, there are lots of people who are not well versed with common ICE terms. In fact I myself wasn't aware of Passive Radiators before Gunbir posted the wiki link, and am sure there are more like me.
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i would like to ask here, what is the benefit in terms of sound quality? What is the difference between using just a sub and a sub with a passive rad?
Dear "C",

As already explained by "G" and "L", it is just like using a port with the sub.

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Damn Now I am not sure what to call you A, B or B&T
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Damn Now I am not sure what to call you A, B or B&T


I like my moniker a lot;

So if every one could call me 'Bhagwan' it would be nice.

Thanks,

Godji sounds too passe'
So avoid it.

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Dear "C",

As already explained by "G" and "L", it is just like using a port with the sub.

Cheers!

Like JB, i cant call a human BHAGWAN. And Bhagwan himself said 'B' is fine.


an expensive port that is. But why go for a PR when its just like using a port? ports are quite cheap.

Im sure there is some thing that cannot be achieved with using ports, otherwise why would anyone use a PR? There must be something. if you or anyone knows, i would appreciate a more detailed explanation. :-)

cheers

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Like JB, i cant call a human BHAGWAN. And Bhagwan himself said 'B' is fine.

an expensive port that is. But why go for a PR when its just like using a port? ports are quite cheap.

Im sure there is some thing that cannot be achieved with using ports, otherwise why would anyone use a PR? There must be something. if you or anyone knows, i would appreciate a more detailed explanation. :-)

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Sir, I shall try and address the issue of PR's first;
My understanding and exposure in the matter is rather limited & hence if I make some mistake - please do forgive me & more important - correct me;
Guru's i.e.

Yes, Ports are much much cheaper to make. Cost is down. However they have problems. The biggest being 'tourbulance' & 'port noise'
All woofers have a specified volume enclosure that they play best in. The port size [diameter] length & material will have a great effect on the final result.

While with a PR, one onlt needs to get the volume of the box 'correct' rest is taken care of automatically. That is the biggest USP of a PR.

I will write about the drwbacks of PR's in a different post.

Besides, PR are very very difficult to make [correct i.e.]
The mass and surface area of the PR should be the same as that active woofer. The PR does not have a magent or coil etc.

p.s. Bhagwan is a name. I have a close friend whoose name is Bhagwan Desai. It has nothing to do with God. That is my moniker on many other forums too. Just like a name like Shiv or Ram or what ever have you.....
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