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Old 19th March 2008, 17:58   #331
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And the people at Hertz has some thing to say something about it..
LBM, they know that there are few absolutes in Car Audio, they have clearly called it a "suggestion". It's not always possible, necessary or apt for that particular install.
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Old 19th March 2008, 17:59   #332
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but you are not using HERTZ right,then why to copy them!!!!!!!
What difference will it make if it is a Dyna or Hertz ? Do you care to explain Phaji ?

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lbm i know my car and equipment better than you.when was the last time you had a listen to my dyns??????

I may be wrong here, Phaji do you care to explain what do you mean by ON-AXIS ??
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Guys can we please stick to B's I10's Audio here. Please take individual responses off line
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Old 19th March 2008, 18:22   #334
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Tweeters are never delayed as they are the reference points of the system and adding the delay to the tweeters will ruin the imaging. Thats why competitors prefer kicks as it gives maximum physical distance to the tweeters from listener. Midbasses are delayed to achieve stage height and better integration with tweeters finally the subwoofer is delayed to match with the front stage.
From your answer here you are saying that sub will also get some time delay.

I think you are 100 % wrong here. In a front + sub setup the sub will never ever get delay as it is the farthest from the listner. So by giving delay we virtually make it more away. Which I think is wrong.

Here is a screen shot of the alpine site hope you will understand what I am saying.

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Here you clearly see that the furthest speaker gets no delay unlike you specify.

A little more.

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Old 19th March 2008, 18:24   #335
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LBM, they know that there are few absolutes in Car Audio, they have clearly called it a "suggestion". It's not always possible, necessary or apt for that particular install.


But that is suggested for the best possible response. And I agree with them 100% And I would any day try to do what they suggest. Also God ji did the same.
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I think you are 100 % wrong here
Thats your opinion. Doesn't really matter in the larger scheme of things. What Autophile said can be practically tested & proven.

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But that is suggested for the best possible response. And I agree with them 100% And I would any day try to do what they suggest. Also God ji did the same.
So did you angle your midbass too, like Hertz has suggested?
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Thats your opinion. Doesn't really matter in the larger scheme of things. What Autophile said can be practically tested & proven.
That is not my opinoin it is of all the world. Ya I have also done the same but it is the incorrect way and the final result is not as compared to the original method

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So did you angle your midbass too, like Hertz has suggested?
Not in this car, but will definitely do it in my next car.
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Old 19th March 2008, 19:28   #338
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oh my god lbm you mean to say that whether it is hertz dyns or dls there will be absolutely no difference??????

lbm one thing i surely know is that YOU dont know what an ON-AXIS is bcause i have heard your car!!!!!!


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I think, we should start a new thread and discuss Driver placement, delay, tuning and all the related discussions there.

Mods, if possible, please shift the Off topic content to a new thread.

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B, the thread was being hijacked. So I have closed the thread, please PM me when you get back on Monday and I will reopen it so you can post your pics.
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From your answer here you are saying that sub will also get some time delay.

I think you are 100 % wrong here.
LBM, I think we ALL need to be a bit more understanding. I suspect people mix up the TA/Bass Focus/subwoofer alignment as Subwoofer delay when it might be quite the contrary.

Anyway enough of this theory. What most of us want to see is Bhagwan's install pics and this is the reason I have reopened the thread.

B, post away!
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LBM, I think we ALL need to be a bit more understanding. I suspect people mix up the TA/Bass Focus/subwoofer alignment as Subwoofer delay when it might be quite the contrary.

Anyway enough of this theory. What most of us want to see is Bhagwan's install pics and this is the reason I have reopened the thread.

B, post away!
Pictures I shall put up tom.

But before I do that; I must say :-

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED HERE ???

I was gone for a few days and hell broke loose. All because I wanted to put my tweeters above my dash board ????

I could have very easily put the tweeters next to the mid woofer;
But I chose not to. There must be some 'reason' for that - I think.

Well the arguments are good, but let it be constructive & healthy. Lets not get personal....please.

Appreciate the co-operation !!

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WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED HERE ???
I am Sorry. I should have closed the thread before all hell broke loose.
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Old 24th March 2008, 12:43   #344
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I am Sorry. I should have closed the thread before all hell broke loose.
Sir,

Do not say that;

I am thnkful to you.

There was so much 'ignorance' that got 'exposed'
I was very entertained.

Please do not close it.

Thanks again.
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I was very entertained.Please do not close it.
I wont. Unless hell threatens to break loose again.

We'd love to be entertained by your pics though.
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