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Old 24th August 2008, 09:38   #31
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Nice bit of DIY there, Magma!
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Old 24th August 2008, 09:47   #32
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Nice pods magma, they look uber cool !

How does it affect the sound though ?
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Old 24th August 2008, 09:58   #33
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One of the bets DIY i have seen,i must say.
What is the difference in tweets sound with pods and with out pods.?
How to ensure that tweet doesn't fall out of the pod or case?
the pods make a considerable difference.
soundstage is sharper since previously the tweeters were just pasted onto the dashboard and were pointing upwards, now they point forwards towards the listners.
soundstage is wider.(souljah bhai - this is my ice novice layman opinion, i could be wrong )

for 30-50 rs odd i think everyone should at least give it a try.
im sure you will believe its worth a lot more!

the pods are 50mm diameter.
the tweeter housing is 45 mm dia.
use two way tape and stick it first onto the insides of the pods then press in the tweeter housing.
the tape acts as a packing plus it sticks the tweeter firmly into place

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Old 24th August 2008, 10:35   #34
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Sir, I must say - great job !!!
Well done; I am impressed.

I just ahve 1 small suggestion to make.
The 'base' made of wood is a great idea.
However, if you could 'taper' it from back to front it would make things better;
Let me explain, currently the tweeter in the pod fires parrellel to the base. Adjust the base to make the tweeter fire up wards by 10 to 15 degrees. The 'sound stage will improve' [mho]
Give it a try;
Your 'pod' remains the same - just the wooden feet will need to be modified !!

All the best !!
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Well done Magma. Good equipment and most of all, you are happy and that is all that matters.
Now take your kid for a drive
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Old 24th August 2008, 19:08   #36
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Sir, I must say - great job !!!
Well done; I am impressed.

I just ahve 1 small suggestion to make.
The 'base' made of wood is a great idea.
However, if you could 'taper' it from back to front it would make things better;
Let me explain, currently the tweeter in the pod fires parrellel to the base. Adjust the base to make the tweeter fire up wards by 10 to 15 degrees. The 'sound stage will improve' [mho]
Give it a try;
Your 'pod' remains the same - just the wooden feet will need to be modified !!

All the best !!

thank you for the encouragement sirji
however the electra tweeters do swivel upwards in their own housing, and since ive not removed the housing i can still swivel the tweeter to face upwards/downwards/sideways by 10-15 degrees.

thats exactly what Zohir did immediately when he sat in the car while tuning. and it DID make a difference.

( thanks to your exposure i can now make out smaller diffferences like these-remember how you got me to make out a difference even when we moved the seat backwards or forwards in your car!)


Arre Sambhai, my kid goes to sleep as soon as i put him in the car and drive even a kilometre ( most times!) -


on another note
guys - some help
i am looking for a subwoofer now. i have quite liked the GZ 12 incher however my amp can suply only 60*2 rms(bridged output about 160-175rms) whereas the sub is a 400 rms rated boy.

i worry about underpowering it .will i get better bass using a less power hungry 10 incher ?

i wonder if i will be better off powering a 10 incher that will be less demanding.maybe a

JBL GT4 10 incher or then maybe

Infinity Reference 1050W, Component Subwoofers, 10" Component Subwoofers - Sonic Electronix

Alpine SWE-1043 (swe1043), Component Subwoofers, 10" Component Subwoofers - Sonic Electronix

Rockford Fosgate Punch P1S410, Component Subwoofers, 10" Component Subwoofers - Sonic Electronix


please do put in your inputs and help me with your experience
best reagurds to all
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guys - some help
i am looking for a subwoofer now. i have quite liked the GZ 12 incher however my amp can suply only 60*2 rms(bridged output about 160-175rms) whereas the sub is a 400 rms rated boy.
I am using JBL 12 inch sub with CS60.2 Amp. Bass is adequate in my Alto.(most of the time i can hear at 30-40% volume only)
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Old 1st September 2008, 02:14   #38
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I second Mohan. I am using Blau GTA4, similar in specs to your Kenwood 8401. Im using it to run GZ 12 inch woofer in a sealed box and quote satisfied with the output. As long as you dont wish to go to the max, you may comfortably use your amp to run the woofer. For me, any volume beyond 40-50% is unbearable. And my usual listening is at 15-25% volume, at which amp drives the woofer very well
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Old 6th October 2008, 23:19   #39
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hello all
i had this upgrade in mind for sometime now.

i have added a subwoofer GZ mk2 in a 0.96cu ft sealed box with neutrik terminals
both faces of the box are angled so as to match with the rear seat angle and the front face to match the slope of the back end of the boot.

it was important to me that the box be built well. real well
so it was off to Ajaybhai and shafique after hearing praises from mr B( Shafique is young but very precise and is such a perfectionist that i got a headache while watching him take almost 4.5 hours just to build the box.)

Tuning was done. Ajay found that one of my components were hooked up out of phase to the amp.Lucky me.

Some observations
when i first sat in the car i found the sub playing bass notes for too long however that settled down after extended listening the next day.
I had always wondered when people say that new speakers need to be broken into
( i thought it was all rubbish)
But now i have experienced it myself

The sub plays low and loud and plays well for the power supplied (bridged KAC 8401)

First hand i experienced two things.
1. ovals on a parcel tray DO NOT save a lot of dicky space compared to a sub
What you gain in width you loose in height
I would always advice goin in for round speakers in stock locations in the rear doors(if you dont want a sub or if its just for rear fill)- in a hatch

2. GZ ovals ( and i think most ovals of all decent brands ) are generally more sensitive than components ( im comparing with Illusion here) upfront.
Due to this reason you never get a good front soundstage. i find it "muddy" ( the vocals seem to be originating from between the seats rather than from outside the windshield)
the ovals always seem to have considerble output
even if you have the fader to +3 upfront or the gains turned low (for rears). Hence you should be careful while selecting ovals. Know what you want. i have told you what to expect

P.S the above is true in case the same 4 channel amp is running your components and ovals.
Also i have come across people who DO like the soundstage at the rear or from the centre of the car.Everyone is different and so are their tastes.

Lastly i love my sub and im happy with the way my car sounds.Thank you Ajay and Shafique
im now looking for decent rear fills.
Hopefully that will be next on my upgrade list . AMp and HU to follow

Also note to all i10 magna users.(not sure about era)
this car has very decent stock wiring from the HU harness to each of the speaker locations in the 4 doors.
if you are not going to use an amp this wire is quality and more than sufficent for any speakers to drive off the HU.
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here is a photo of my sub in sealed box
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Old 7th October 2008, 08:25   #41
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:: Ground Zero :: Subwoofer / GZTW 12MKČ

is this the woofer you have installed ?

http://www.ground-zero-audio.com/13_...h_gztw12mk.pdf

This is the enclosure suggestion;
It is not a 'sealed' box woofer.
Needs to be in a 'vented' or a 'band pass' enclosure.

p.s. I know a 'closed band pass' is possible - but not recommended.

I suggest you re-make your enclosure. Vented [ported] 1.25 cft [35 litre]

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Posted by mistake. Mods, please delete. Sorry for the trouble
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Congrats Ali. Time for an audition of each other's cars, eh?

BTW, I do not understand why sealed enclosure is not recommended for this sub? I have the same model and so do lots of other members. AFAIK, all of us are running it in a sealed encl, right?
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hello all
ive collected some money( by some i mean a little sum that wifey doesnt know!)

i was wondering what should be first on my upgrade list

current setup
pio 5950
EL6.1
GZ MK2 12 inch sub in 1 cu/ft seled box.
KAC 8401 driving components and sub

please do suggest upgrade options ( budget 5-7K)

what im looking for is a more attatcking /forward sound-im pretty sure the electras will satisfy( if fed with more power)
what do you think?

i was wondering
either a two channel amp under the front seat to drive the sub and then give the entire 8401 to the electras
do you think there would be considersble improvement with this

another option was well..for my passengers.Dont know how much it will affect me
was thinking rear JBL GTO 627 (HU driven)and a pioneer steering remote

any other options are most welcome

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was thinking rear JBL GTO 627 (HU driven)and a pioneer steering remote

any other options are most welcome
I'm pretty sure you mean GTO637. The 627 was never introduced in India.
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