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Old 22nd November 2008, 15:33   #16
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Any suggestions for the sub(s), Actually I don't have much idea of ICE, Kindly suggest a good sub(s) to go with the Setup..
I think a pair of CS1204 12" Subs will do for you, put them into a sealed Box .

speakers I'd say u can stick to Boston S series, or JBL 2008 GTO series.
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Old 22nd November 2008, 20:06   #17
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Some popular brands on the forum, in alphabetical order, are Ground Zero, Image Dynamics & JBL.
Any particular reasons for wanting to buy 2 subs?
Thank you very much Nura, How about the Ground Zero Mk2(The Entry Level subs). any comments on that, how are these subs.??
No particular reason as such for 2 subs, its just I want some good bass. be free to comment if any of my decision is senseless as I don't have much idea.
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Old 22nd November 2008, 20:16   #18
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I think a pair of CS1204 12" Subs will do for you, put them into a sealed Box .

speakers I'd say u can stick to Boston S series, or JBL 2008 GTO series.
Thanks Blueraven316..How are Ground Zero MK2 Subs(The entry level Subs.. Can i also look them as an option.?
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Old 22nd November 2008, 21:55   #19
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You mean to say a set of speakers for front?
"Components" are a set of 2 mid range speakers (Giving out the mid freq sound) , 2 tweeters (Give out high frequency sound) and 2 crossovers (That comes between the connection of speaker from the source, their function is to split the sound freq to high frequency and mid frequency and send the mid frequency to mid range speakers and high frequency to tweeters, thus giving you a better clearer sound) All of these comes in a single box by many brands like illusion, JBL etc.


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3 Way Pioneer speakers are already in the boot.. in an elclosure like sub. Do you mean placing the speakers in the tray? I misplaced the tray :-(
If the size of these 3 way pioneers are within 6-6.5" (Diameter), then you can fit them in the rear door in the company provided slots. You dont need the rear tray.

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Can you pls explain a bit more.. I didnt understand this.
Hope its clear now? i am not an expert on these . . i tried to explain you with my little knowledge, hope the gurus can help you more.
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Old 22nd November 2008, 23:58   #20
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thanks srikant.. now its preety much clear... One more thing.. in this kind of circuit, i think i;ll have to put the tweeters in the door wall instead of dash near front windscreen..

Is it something like the one mentioned in the below post?
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/sound-...e-upgrade.html


Pioneer are oval shaped.. have to check if it can fit in door..

also, as redfire mentioned, a dedicated amp for the sub.. can this be a 2 channel amp or it has to be a 4 channel? and would it be better if i change the sub's box to a tube?
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also.. if possible, can you pls tell me how much would mid range speakers and crossover ckt cost?

Also is damping of doors necessary?
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thanks srikant.. now its preety much clear... One more thing.. in this kind of circuit, i think i;ll have to put the tweeters in the door wall instead of dash near front windscreen..

Is it something like the one mentioned in the below post?
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/sound-...e-upgrade.html
Yes pal, thats the one. Thats the old GTO 607C series form JBL. The tweeters can be placed even on the front windscreen, but it is placed on door wall do get the complete effect. It does not damage your door wall. It can be a neat job by most of the installers.


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Pioneer are oval shaped.. have to check if it can fit in door..
Oval pioneers cannot be placed on doors. You can leave it in the boot with those present enclosures if you can manage for that space occupied. But if you want more boot space, You better get yourself a new tray to place the pioneer ovals.

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also, as redfire mentioned, a dedicated amp for the sub.. can this be a 2 channel amp or it has to be a 4 channel? and would it be better if i change the sub's box to a tube?
You can go for a Mono Amp for driving the sub indivudually. But good mono amps come in the price range of 10000 upwards. IF you want a cheaper option you can have a 2 channel amplifier connected to the sub in bridged mode. (2 channel amps come at a price range of 5000 upwards.

No need to do any changes on the sub box, you can retain the same.

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also.. if possible, can you pls tell me how much would mid range speakers and crossover ckt cost?

Also is damping of doors necessary?
You can go for the new JBL GTO 608C which costs around 5500 (all in a box).

Dampening of door is necessary to get the complete aound quality if you listen at high volumes. If your budget permits you can go for front door damping too.

Let me tell you again, these are my personal opinion from my little knowledge (thanks to TBHP). Gurus may have better suggestions. What say gurus? hope i am not wrong anywhere?
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That was really informative srikant.. Thanks for the suggestions..
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Guys, Does anyone have any idea about the blakpunt palm beach series with 10 CD changer? Does this model support USB Interface?
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I had decided Illusion Audio Components for front... If replacing the Bass tube I decided to put in a pair of Ground Zero MK2 Sub woofer... So the question again comes is it better to replace the bass tube if I am getting in to a professional setup...
I'd suggest using similar sounding speakers in the front and back. but the illusions in isolation are fine speakers.

I'd say replace the bass tube anyway. a good installer should be able to make a great enclosure ( while the average installed will just get a standard box and plonk a sub into it)

I'd suggest a single sub high quality sub rather than two cheaper ones
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I'd suggest using similar sounding speakers in the front and back. but the illusions in isolation are fine speakers.

I'd say replace the bass tube anyway. a good installer should be able to make a great enclosure ( while the average installed will just get a standard box and plonk a sub into it)

I'd suggest a single sub high quality sub rather than two cheaper ones
Noted yours with thanks...

Any suggestion on the Sub at a budget of Rs.10-12k, The installation to take place in Ranchi, So i don't have a option here of a good installer who could make a great enclosure.. Options would be DIY with the help of some gurus here or any other suggestion there from you..
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... i don't have a option here of a good installer who could make a great enclosure...
Don't underestimate the resources that you have in Ranchi, a good carpenter will do if you have the dimensions and and a clear idea what is to be made.

If you don't get MDF in Ranchi, planks of any dense wood will do. As will good treated ply bonded to fiber-glass sheets with araldite. Explain what you want by showing the carpenter pictures and drawings, and explain to them the need for good bracing and sealing.
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have you decided which route you're going ? sealed or ported?

since you have a monobloc , I'd suggest going sealed . You may get lower output , but hey, its just a hatch, and if you're not planning to use it for the neighbours benefit, it should be fine.

Also, the sound of a sealed box sub is less dependent on box design than a ported one.
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Don't underestimate the resources that you have in Ranchi, a good carpenter will do if you have the dimensions and and a clear idea what is to be made.

If you don't get MDF in Ranchi, planks of any dense wood will do. As will good treated ply bonded to fiber-glass sheets with araldite. Explain what you want by showing the carpenter pictures and drawings, and explain to them the need for good bracing and sealing.
Yeah thats what brother I am not underestimating the resources that we have in Ranchi, Its just we don't have any professionals who are specialist in making enclosures.. I did thought It will be a DIY with a help of a good carpenter...

We do get MDF in Ranchi, It will be a good idea to explain the carpenter what i want by showing him pictures of some install and by giving him the exact dimension...

Thanks A lot DerAlte
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have you decided which route you're going ? sealed or ported?

since you have a monobloc , I'd suggest going sealed . You may get lower output , but hey, its just a hatch, and if you're not planning to use it for the neighbours benefit, it should be fine.

Also, the sound of a sealed box sub is less dependent on box design than a ported one.
Not decided yet,Greenhorn Can you please explain a bit how is a ported enclosure different from a sealed one, I mean whats the difference in the sound/bass output when a sealed or ported Enclosure are used...
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