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Old 23rd April 2009, 01:22   #526
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Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Looks damn amazing
Wish i had that kinda Money.
Wish i could get money for putting paste in teeth and removing teeth.
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yep. looks brilliant, and i bet its even better in the flesh!



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Wish i had that kinda Money.
Wish i could get money for putting paste in teeth and removing teeth.

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Hi , always been visiting this thread regularly but never commented on anything but this amplifier looks sooooo wow , i wonder what will it do when it starts powering ;D

Though how much did u actually spend on this Amplifier ?
It looks so good .
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This amp will take atleast 70-90% of the gains(HPF ON) to power up your components and then you can hear something out of your compos,40-60% of gains(LPF ON) for subwoofers from 150WRMS - 400WRMS,SQ wise its great VFM but not very loud
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these kinda amps are for quality. I too am planning for something which doesn't go loud and still gives amazing quality. Suggestions. Though there is a lot of time since i don't have guys who want to get the tooth removed and pay for it. Lol
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I totally agree on the quality part,but as my personal experience its sometime too underpowered that you need to detune the entire setup level to match one under powering stuff in the car,that becomes a headache..

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Though there is a lot of time since i don't have guys who want to get the tooth removed and pay for it. Lol
Frank bhaiya i need to get a root-canal done how much RMS sorry Amplifiers sorry Components sorry Rs. would you charge
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Thanx ameen and ankit. I am looking forward to getting the equipment myself. This is by far the biggest upgrade that i'm making, but i don.t hope to see a HUGE improvement. After a point, even the most expensive upgrades will yield a small amount of improvement.
Ramie paaji, if the pre voltage output of the eclipse hu is 8v and the amp itself is rated to take 7v at the max, where is the question of turning up the gains? Also, i was running on a 75*4 setup, hence giving only about 75w to each side. So 100w rms to each side is an improvement. I didn't have to detune the system even one bit with the 75w going to each side:-) besides, my system is not tuned at all for loudness. In fact, at times i like listening to my music even without the sub. Loudness is not its forte. And as far as i'm concerned, its not even in my top ten list of requirements. :-)
As far as i see it, increasing gains is not a way of providing more power. Its just a way of increasing the sensitivity of the amp to the preamp voltage, which in my case is 8v. The amp will provide FULL POWER even at zero gain. So i don.t see any power issues here. Baaki you know better, since you are much more in sync with audio than i am. I'm quite a noob who's not heard a lot of systems.
Ps: this ain't a vfm proposition by any way. Lol. By the reviews i've read online, it's one of the better sq amps there are. It's definitely one of the best amps dls has ever produced.
Thats why the massive demand for them, and their subsequent absence in the used amp market.
Also, the next time you come to my clinic for a root canal, you will have to pay in KEYS. The keys to your Accord:-)

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Also, i was running on a 75*4 setup, hence giving only about 75w to each side.
1. You will need a sub amp of equal quality.The RA30 would have been a nicer alternate.

2. Would love to compare the RA40 to other 4 channel options (Steg/ Audison). I got the chance to listen to the DLS Ultimate (it was a 5 channel version) and it was very clean. More Steg than Audison. Audison (VRx) was warmer while Steg was dryer, the DLS Ultimate was clinically clean.
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abhi, going active is an option. But not right now. The 4 channel was available, but slightly over budget!
The Ultimate range was way over the budget.
But then i thought, something is definitely better than nothing, and right now im full on BROKE! So for now its a 2 channel amp. Later dekha jaayega
Frank, when is your budget (if I can even use that word!) ever fixed??

And what do you mean by full on broke? I have been hearing that from you since the last 6 months, but your actions seem to be quite the contrary!
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1. You will need a sub amp of equal quality.The RA30 would have been a nicer alternate.
<dreams away in broad daylight>

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2. Would love to compare the RA40 to other 4 channel options (Steg/ Audison). I got the chance to listen to the DLS Ultimate (it was a 5 channel version) and it was very clean. More Steg than Audison. Audison (VRx) was warmer while Steg was dryer, the DLS Ultimate was clinically clean.
i think NOW my system will be worthy of your audition! in fact im very excited to have your word on the system. i shall come by to your place when the stuff has been installed and take your suggestions.

in fact, as we speak, I just read a couple of snippets comparing the dls ra20/ra40 to the audison vrx 2.150.2 on an unchanged setup.
pricewise, the vrx costs substantially more (double the cost!), but the general consensus was that the ra20/ra40 trumps the vrx in all ways other than the fact that the audison has a slightly higher power rating.
the words clean, and even sacred were used in abundance in this review of the DLS amplifier.
As far as reviews are concerned, I know, that one must take them with a pinch of salt, but then again I never expected VRx standards. Even if the RA20 sounds akin to the slightly lower end LRx series, I will be happy :-)


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Frank, when is your budget (if I can even use that word!) ever fixed??

And what do you mean by full on broke? I have been hearing that from you since the last 6 months, but your actions seem to be quite the contrary!
i guess i must come to terms with this, but there IS no budget when it comes to car audio for me! im sure i will be quite happy with the way it is going to sound, but the process of eliminating the weaker link will go on and on till I achieve the perfect sounding setup (read: never!)
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+1 that, i dont have a nice system, but a year earlier i would think that the current system i have which i didnt earlier would be awesome, now after achieving, i want more, and i am sure after that i would want more. This just a bug that bites everyone, the ICE bug, bloody critter.

Any ways dude the amp looks awesome and i hope it sounds even better, lets just hope that it lands before the may meet, so everyone can just hear it any envy you.lol
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thank you abhay! im quite sure it will be done around the same time that the meet has been tentatively decided. hence everybody should be able to audition it around that time.
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i was just reading through a lot of stuff, and i happened to read stuff about burning in an amplifier.
Some people say that a home amplifier needs somewhere around 400 hours to achieve its full potential.
I guess car amplifiers need to be burnt in too! But 400 hours is quite unreasonable and unachievable (for someone like me who spends less than 20 minutes a day in the car)
Is there anything like breaking in or burning in? And how much of a difference does it make?


PS: when the luccent midbasses were installed in my car, they didn't sound any better than the electras.
After 2-3 weeks of driving around, they started opening up. So much so, to an extent that I could do an A-B comparison between what I heard the week before!
Now they have settled and sound brilliant. But I was just citing an example of how much of a difference breaking in/burning in makes, atleast to speakers.
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Navin ji should join us for the meet or atleast meet when i'm there.
Audition and some party time if possible
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1. You will need a sub amp of equal quality.The RA30 would have been a nicer alternate.
Well now that you've bought the RA20, you can always sell off the RF and buy a RA10

Anyway, congratulations on your upgrade - went through the thread, looks it's been quite the journey towards getting your dream ICE setup...
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