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Old 29th April 2005, 15:47   #16
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u know this is a actually a myth, all this is made in china or whatever nothing is fake. its only over the years that the plastic used by sony and pioneer and all the quality has gone down. its more delicate.
yes alll the stuff is made in china but the original ones atleast have Design and QC done by pioneer, sony, etc.

i have seen some "pioneer" stuff that clearly was not.

and yes the BUILD quality has deteriorated over the years...i think you know that my circa 1987 Alpine HU took a fall from a window and still works. They dont make them like they used to.
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Old 29th April 2005, 22:03   #17
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hey dmitri

actually at the moment i cant spend more than 12k for the system so dont want something to fancy or loud.as of now i just need a basic set up.

mostly i wont be putting the speakers on the tray i was thinking of cutting a hole in the door at the back and fitting them there.is it possible and will there be any difference in sound quality ??

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Old 30th April 2005, 01:12   #18
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hey went to opera house today and got some more prices.they seem reasonable now i just have to make my final decision and select the best combination. can you guys help me put here.

head unit :

pioneer 4650 - Rs 5900
pioneer 4750 - Rs 6200

front speakers :

sony GF 1621x 2 way - not sure
pioneer 1047 - Rs 750 ( are they really
pioneer 1061 - Rs 850 this cheap)


rear speakers :

same as last time

pioneer 6990 (400 watts) - Rs 3800
pioneer 6991 (460 watts) - Rs 3900
pioneer 6981 (not sure) - Rs 3200
pioneer 6971 (not sure) - Rs 2800
pioneer 6961 (260 watts) - Rs 2400



now wht would be the best combination.dont want anything to loud.a bit of bass would be good.some audio experts please help out !!


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head unit :

pioneer 4750 - Rs 6200

front speakers :

pioneer 1061 - Rs 850

rear speakers :

pioneer 6991 (460 watts) - Rs 3900

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This is the best combo you can opt for.Moreover this suits your budget really well,as the entire thing sums up to 10,950rs+500rs labour.You still end up saving 500rs for a couple of beers.
Also try and bargain a little.

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hey X machine , thanx a lot.will see tommorow how that works out and one more thing where would you suggest the rear speakers be fitted ??

p.s its a zen

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I have seen 6990s/6991s for as low as 2900-3600. Bargain hard on those things. Pioneer 4650s. I last got a quotation for that around 5600. These are Milan subway quotes after discounting and haggling.

Front speaker quotations look quite ok to me. Yes 4 inchers are that cheap. Sony Xplods start at the 1k mark, and Blaupunkt around the 1.4k mark, if that is of any help.

MDF boards are of great help. Trust me, after 2 years of use on an ordinary cut-out with ordinary wires, compare it with one on an MDF board and monster cables (around 50 bucks a metre). You'll know what i am talking.

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MDF boards are of great help. Trust me, after 2 years of use on an ordinary cut-out with ordinary wires, compare it with one on an MDF board and monster cables (around 50 bucks a metre). You'll know what i am talking.

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Exactly!! Dont go on cutting and experimenting formula.Stick to the rules and get a board.And dont forget to bargain on the prices.You will definately get a better deal.Try going from shop to shop and see where you get the best price.Dont hurry up into these things.

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The 4750 is fine if you are ok with the display. I only go for some more colors in the display.

Regarding the front speakers go for Sony Xplod or Blaupunkt. The Pioneer Front Speakers cant manage the bass fully( which may spoil the good sound from the Rear ones )

There will be a difference in the bass as the speakers are restricted to the small space.
You can consider putting them in boxes which are detachable. I have done this in my M800 and the bass got improved a lot. These are ready made boxes and can be purchased from the accessory shops.

Or you can cut the original parcel tray or put a MDF(recommended).

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upgrade your wires too if your budget allows that.
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guys i've heard that the Pioneer systems are of real low quality..nothing compared to kenwood or other big brands like Alpine..is this really true? i thought the Pioneer systems offered lots of features in a low budget
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pioneer has been too successful. the great's form of flattery is imitation. hence there is a larger number of imitaion pioneers that other brands. if you frequent other audio forums line caraudio.com etc... you will find that pioneers can rank up with the best of them and often offers better value for money. now the clincher...... this is advise coming from someone who has 3 alpine systems!
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ok good to hear that...i was feeling a bit low when i heard these stuff cuz i own a pioneer sys
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hey guys yesterday i went for sound system (pioneer 4750, 6991 rear and sony 1021 in fronts) for my santro xing. The dealer recommeneded a box, so I went with one huge box for rear. Now the thing is box has taken up all of boot-space, and Santro's rear parcel tray sits on top of the box. My questions are:

1. Will rear tray sitting on top of box muffle/suppress the sound a bit? I feel it does a little, but what are your suggestions?

2. Should I have gone for a box in first place? I mean, Santro gives slots (grilles) for speakers at back. Otherwise, could I have gone for a different tray (original tray won't handle weight of speakers). What exactly is MDF?

3. At volume 35 with loudness set to Mid and natural equalizer, Nirvana songs have distorted sound. After a while, I located the distortion coming from front speakers. Now, is it usual or there's something wrong with speakers?

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Ok a bit off topic, but GreenHorn can you let me know how much the total package cost(pioneer 4750, 6991 rear and sony 1021 in fronts)..?
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12.2k total damages, mate. including the box.
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