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Old 1st November 2009, 01:28   #16
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I tried this last night, please do not try this at home
How about the car? Can we try this in the car?

And honestly we don't care if Timbaland sat in your car. Post what he did to the setting of your car audio with some substance in your post or people will not take you seriously.
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Old 1st November 2009, 01:42   #17
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How about the car? Can we try this in the car?

And honestly we don't care if Timbaland sat in your car. Post what he did to the setting of your car audio with some substance in your post or people will not take you seriously.
Sam seriously I like music, and I like cars, but audio tuning is in no way something I know how to do nor something I'm interested in. I really have no clue what he changed or what my previous settings were, all I know is I liked my music then, I like it better now.

Bottom line and what I was trying to put across is that these guys who do have an extreme understanding of music can truly work wonders. I hoped that the people who knew good DJs would try the same thing, and report their experiences.

Considering that no one got that, it was probably not put across in the right way.

I was probably lost in my excitement that I had a music supremo in my car last night who re-tuned my system. It's like having someone who's into bollywood meeting SRK, or someone who's into F1 having Hamilton driving them around the track in his McLaren.

Haha all the other crap I posted was because I still cant believe the fact that I was blasting my ICE at 4:50 AM at the International Airport here in Mumbai and the cops and staff at the airport were crowding my car smiling and some requesting songs. I thought I'd get arrested or something (It wasn't obscenely loud, but loud enough to be heard 2 gates away at least, so early in the morning)

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I was probably lost in my excitement that I had a music supremo in my car last night who re-tuned my system. It's like having someone who's into bollywood meeting SRK, or someone who's into F1 having Hamilton driving them around the track in his McLaren.
Sorry Doc I don't buy it. SRK will not tune my projector picture, he is just a good actor and Hamilton will not tune my engine he is just a good driver.

Just because your friend is a world-class DJ (music supremo???) doesn't qualify him as a sound engineer and car audio tuning specialist.
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I was blasting my ICE at 4:50 AM at the International Airport here in Mumbai and the cops and staff at the airport were crowding my car smiling and some requesting songs. I thought I'd get arrested or something (It wasn't obscenely loud, but loud enough to be heard 2 gates away at least, so early in the morning)
Anyone who has been to Mumbai International airport at 4am knows that at that time it is always severely crowded. I refuse to believe that you sat at the gate and played music in your car that could be heard 2 gates away and the cops were requesting for more songs. The usual request is "Chala, pudhe ghya""

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Sorry Doc I don't buy it. SRK will not tune my projector picture, he is just a good actor and Hamilton will not tune my engine he is just a good driver.

Just because your friend is a world-class DJ (music supremo???) doesn't qualify him as a sound engineer and car audio tuning specialist.
I never said he was a sound engineer or a car audio tuning specialist.

The only thing I said is that he tuned my deck and I liked the change.

I also mentioned that he knew his way around tuning because he masters audio tracks. Actually that is the work of a sound engineer right so yeah.

It was also not really crowded last night. Yep just checked my cell phone to see what time we were there. I clicked a few pics. It was 4:41 AM and we were there till 5:03 AM as I made a call when he went into the airport. So yeah around 22 minutes, and we must have played music for a good 10 mins or so until we decided to turn it off since it was attracting too much attention. No, but no rush...

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Guys, I was at the domestic airport and I swear I could hear his audio system.
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Guys, I was at the domestic airport and I swear I could hear his audio system.
haha hey pranav I love you dude!

No it's ok, if people want to keep fighting off an idea then it's ok. But it doesn't matter, it's my system, my friend, I noticed the change and am happier for it

I was proposing an idea earlier not heard of on TBhp, but just as the first guy to put a speaker in his car was probably looked at as a douche too
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or someone who's into F1 having Hamilton driving them around the track in his McLaren.
thats not really possible now is it?

nice equipment in your car.
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NOTE FROM MOD:

"Listening pleasure" is subjective, and its entirely possible that someone who has the same preferences as you, as well as the basic knowledge to make the changes on a system as per those preferences can render improvements in the perceived sound.

However, this recent discussion is going nowhere, as the content itself can be summarized as "I got a world class DJ to tune my car and it sounds better". No mention of the specific changes made, original settings, etc.

So on that note, lets not take this discussion any further.

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NOTE FROM MOD:

"Listening pleasure" is subjective, and its entirely possible that someone who has the same preferences as you, as well as the basic knowledge to make the changes on a system as per those preferences can render improvements in the perceived sound.

However, this recent discussion is going nowhere, as the content itself can be summarized as "I got a world class DJ to tune my car and it sounds better". No mention of the specific changes made, original settings, etc.

So on that note, lets not take this discussion any further.

Thanks,
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Plus we are kinda going off the track friends, let's sought out the issues the thread starter has mentioned.

What DOCG has mentioned could be a very debatable topic, what matters is he is enjoying his music better than he did
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My random thoughts on tuning-

1. A very good tuner will set up your system for the optimal level based largely on your 'indicated' preferences, and to a small extent on his preferences. As you play the setup over a few days, you might find that the sound you hear is a little deviated from what you actually like (different from how you indicated it to the tuner). Therefore, if you are the nitpicking, perfectionist types, it pays to learn as much of tuning as possible. Of course, the best time to do this is when your tuner is at work on your set-up, sit next to him, observe all settings closely and don't be afraid to ask dumb questions. Remember, you won't always have the luxury of calling on exceptional tuners whenever you feel like- so it is always good to know the basics and your way around them.

2. What is referred as tuning is generally not rocket science. Broadly, it is simply about setting the amp gains right for each of the speakers, setting Time Alignment right, (and if your set up is active), setting x-over frequencies and slopes, and speaker gains right from the HU. If this sounds intimidating, take heart from the fact that a majority of set-ups are passive (if you see a crossover -- a small box like device with 3-4 pairs of wires -- attached to your components, relax, you are running a passive setup).

3. So in a passive setup, broadly what you need is to set amp gains right, set up Low-pass filter for your subwoofer (a generally accepted figure is 80hz), set up High-pass filter for your components (should ideally be same as your LPF for your Sub, so generally taken as 80 hz) and if your head-unit has time alignment, set it right. Now, there are scores of threads in this forum that tell you how to set up both. Remember, you don't always need to set up amp gains with multi-meter precision, or time alignment with measurements down to the last inch. Before you start setting these up, relax, take a deep breath and mutter to yourself- 'This is an easy job and I can bloody well do it'. Just a bit of precaution- don't set the gains too high.

4. If your car has enough range of speakers to play the entire frequency spectrum (either coax or 2-way or 3-way components, and a sub is fine), then put all EQ controls, bass boost controls, digital sound enhancers, BBEs, DZEs etc. to flat or off/defeat/cancel mode initially for best results. Remember equalization is a powerful tool in the hands of expert tuners, but novices using EQ will often just mess up their sound.

5. If you are still unsatisfied with your sound after multiple attempts at tuning, post up your problems and your equipment, settings etc. here on this forum. Ask and you shall receive all the help you need!

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Very rightly said Mr Green.
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Well put Rishi. For basic starter points that are mentioned could help.
In addition to that, how the speakers are installed plays a very imp role as how their reponse will be. If tuned perfectly and if the installation of each individual speakers is not done right it can affect the result from it. There are some minute things that are ignored which can affect the sound largely like damping part, midwoofer installations..leaks around it, tweeter placement, polarity, phase check. So even if anyone these parameters are not right, it could affect the sound and may not be upto the expectation.

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