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Old 7th June 2009, 19:27   #16
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3. Yes, at a length and based on my own experiences, they're very very ordinary sounding. (no offences meant to you or any of the bull-audio owners). If someone finds it better than a Infinity or JBL, then indeed your magic worked. End of the day - they don't appeal to me. Period. No more fuss!
I understand your POV.
I found them quite good. Certainly not very very ordinary. Does that mean i am under influence of some magic?

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Stick to reputed companies rather than bull etc.
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1. Thats pretty debatable! Lets not get into this.. else the flame-war would start. Coming from a similar (no - NOT car audio), I understand the whole process very well.

2. Faridabad is NOT my native place dear. Did I ever use any place/any product or you're on your own to assuming stuff?

3. Yes, at a length and based on my own experiences, they're very very ordinary sounding. (no offences meant to you or any of the bull-audio owners). If someone finds it better than a Infinity or JBL, then indeed your magic worked. End of the day - they don't appeal to me. Period. No more fuss!
Obviously your intentions are pretty clear on this forum. I dont know about you, but yes BULL AUDIO is indeed a VERY VERY excellent sounding speaker, Whatever you auditioned had something wrong in the audio chain which lead to this so-called conclusion of yours that they sound bad. I have heard more than 10 Setups running on complete BULL Audio equipment and they sound excellent for the price. Who ever Said JBL is BAD?? But I have never been found of treble, I prefer laid back speakers. The JBL Power series components sound great.

Care to explain why you upgraded to a GZ Compos from your JBL 607c??

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So if a brand is QC'd in Faridabad it is bad, is it? You don't seem to have much confidence in the Quality Control abilities of Indians. What a pity.

QC, if done away from any manufacturing unit, is rather pointless - one will not be able to change any process parameter to make the subsequent lot (not even batch) better. QC is done within the production cycle, not outside it. So if anyone says made in X and QC'd in Y, it is no more than a marketing gimmick.

BTW, perhaps you could care to mention which company that is?

Panky-bhai, let us not do unnecessary brand bashing. If reputation were to be the only criteria, Sony is the most reputed, yet ...
No Sir, I pretty much believe in the same, HELL I am into the same industry and the QC of my product is also done in my office and headquarters situated in India itself, but yes when you see a product with a QC OK stamp coming out with Missing components on the cross-over and Dented Baskets, You are forced to think twice aren't you?? Dont know about you, But I will think and forced to think about it.

BULL AUDIO is QCed by Rainbow In Germany which is the parent company as well.
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Stick to reputed companies rather than bull etc.
And that has certainly got to be the "funniest post of the year". Sir, have you really heard the bull? The amp in this case? I mean really heard it and not some random video off youtube?

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1. Thats pretty debatable! Lets not get into this.. else the flame-war would start. Coming from a similar (no - NOT car audio), I understand the whole process very well.

2. Faridabad is NOT my native place dear. Did I ever use any place/any product or you're on your own to assuming stuff?

3. Yes, at a length and based on my own experiences, they're very very ordinary sounding. (no offences meant to you or any of the bull-audio owners). If someone finds it better than a Infinity or JBL, then indeed your magic worked. End of the day - they don't appeal to me. Period. No more fuss!
1. Will be highly obliged if we are also enlightened about this process that you know very well. No, seriously. Tell na.

2. Sir, youtube videos are Very very ordinary sounding. Why sir, hasn't the fuss already been created?

3. The most important point. Are you commercially involved?



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Care to explain why you upgraded to a GZ Compos from your JBL 607c??
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Update: My JBL 607Cs have been totalled :-( Thanks to my JBL 75.4 and a phull blast session after a couple of drinks!.. changing front comps soon. Any good suggestions? (except illusion EL 6.1)
He has mentioned it on his thread.


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And that has certainly got to be the "funniest post of the year". Sir, have you really heard the bull? The amp in this case? I mean really heard it and not some random video off youtube?

I did not find it funny from any point. If he doesn't like the quality he has mentioned about it. It's his Point of view and i guess its not wrong to have a different opinion than that of others.


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2. Sir, youtube videos are Very very ordinary sounding. Why sir, hasn't the fuss already been created?
And how is a youtube video related to this?
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He is not. How is that related again?
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He has mentioned it on his thread.





I did not find it funny from any point. If he doesn't like the quality he has mentioned about it. It's his Point of view and i guess its not wrong to have a different opinion than that of others.



And how is a youtube video related to this?


He is not. How is that related again?
Well sir, funny because he says so about products that are one of the best built one can come across for the price.
Yes, it is his point of view, but writing quotes like "stick to reputed brands rather than bull etc.". Come to think of it. Isn't rainbow, reputed? (The question of quality hasn't come here. It's a question of reputation)
The bloke kept his view point, I gave a counter question to it because I differ to it. Is it wrong to have a different opinion from someone?

This isn't related to youtube. It's related to a a good piece of equipment being called very very ordinary.

It is related. Go through all the previous posts from this bloke, ever. Then see what most of the times those posts contain. I merely am curious to know if the gentleman is commercially involved or not.
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This isn't related to youtube. It's related to a a good piece of equipment being called very very ordinary.

It is related. Go through all the previous posts from this bloke, ever. Then see what most of the times those posts contain. I merely am curious to know if the gentleman is commercially involved or not.
But then how did youtube come in between again. I fail to understand the reference to youtube.

Had he been commercially involved, he would have mentioned in that thread .

Ok so if a guy posts about some particular brands, then he is commercially involved.
In that case, Me, abhibh, karankapoor, m4ugr8, frankmehta for that matter etc are commercially involved too?

Oh for the record he is not commercially involved.
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But then how did youtube come in between again. I fail to understand the reference to youtube.

Had he been commercially involved, he would have mentioned in that thread .

Ok so if a guy posts about some particular brands, then he is commercially involved.
In that case, Me, abhibh, karankapoor, m4ugr8, frankmehta for that matter etc are commercially involved too?

Oh for the record he is not commercially involved.
Sir, why don't you listen to a song on youtube. Doesn't it sound "very very ordinary". That's the reference.

Tell the same to the gentleman we are talking about. He seems to have the curiousness about someone's commercial involvement absolutely forgetting the fact that the person would have mentioned that. (For reference, go through all of the gentleman's past posts).

Is it wrong to have a different opinion from someone? And actually moving forward and asking?. Also, let's not get into talking other peoples commercial involvements. We are already pretty OT.
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Sir, why don't you listen to a song on youtube. Doesn't it sound "very very ordinary". That's the reference.

Tell the same to the gentleman we are talking about. He seems to have the curiousness about someone's commercial involvement absolutely forgetting the fact that the person would have mentioned that. (For reference, go through all of the gentleman's past posts).

Is it wrong to have a different opinion from someone? And actually moving forward and asking?. Also, let's not get into talking other peoples commercial involvements. We are already pretty OT.
I haven't had a chance to listen to Bull Components yet. But surely i will soon.

O.T. For watching you tube videos.
It ain't necessary that sound is bad.
Take for an instant a very good pair of computer speakers.
2.1 or maybe 5.1

Some videos may sound very very amazing.

And seems you took up a wrong reference.
The thing which was being talked in that point was about the QC and not ordinary sounding equipment.
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I haven't had a chance to listen to Bull Components yet. But surely i will soon.

O.T. For watching you tube videos.
It ain't necessary that sound is bad.
Take for an instant a very good pair of computer speakers.
2.1 or maybe 5.1

Some videos may sound very very amazing.

And seems you took up a wrong reference.
The thing which was being talked in that point was about the QC and not ordinary sounding equipment.
Seriously, you gotcha.

It's bad 75% of the times and except in the few cases when originals have been uploaded, usually you tube videos don't hold a hair in front of the real stuff.

Nope, my 3 questions weren't based on the 3 points as mentioned by the bloke here in sequence i.e. in content, they were though. So, 2nd question was directed at a statement in the 3rd point by the gentleman.
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Mr Panky is always very very interested in knowing each users Commercial involvment with any brand, Seems like he is creating a Directory or helping the MODS on Team-BHP to create one.

So if bharti22shresth is asking the same question, he is doing nothing wrong.

@bharti22shresth: Its pretty clear what panky12345's intention are in this thread, infact go through all of his past posts and his MAIN objective is to brand bash the products being represented by a certain Group of people and company. So no use fighting here, Infact I would advise you not to continue this discussion anymore, or else A BAN is headed your Way soon.
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Mr Panky is always very very interested in knowing each users Commercial involvment with any brand, Seems like he is creating a Directory or helping the MODS on Team-BHP to create one.
HAHAHAHA!

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So if bharti22shresth is asking the same question, he is doing nothing wrong.
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@bharti22shresth: Its pretty clear what panky12345's intention are in this thread, infact go through all of his past posts and his MAIN objective is to brand bash the products being represented by a certain Group of people and company. So no use fighting here, Infact I would advise you not to continue this discussion anymore, or else A BAN is headed your Way soon.
Advice taken. Now what's the price of this amp again?
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... No Sir, I pretty much believe in the same, HELL I am into the same industry and the QC of my product is also done in my office and headquarters situated in India itself, but yes when you see a product with a QC OK stamp coming out with Missing components ...
BULL AUDIO is QCed by Rainbow In Germany which is the parent company as well.
You certainly didn't get the point, did you? <Sigh>

Guys, I am closing this thread as it is not serving any purpose other than as a platform for brand-bashing. Anyhow shriman superbhikshu seems to be happy with his HU upgrade, and has discarded this thread long time back without getting any relevant information!
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