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Old 14th May 2009, 21:52   #106
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Now this is the issue. Both the sites says 300*2 (or 320*2), but they dont say whether its 100*2 + 1*300. I mean to say that i am not sure if it gives 300plus at bridged mode when it is running front comps at 100 each. I think acording to website, it is only 300*2 and not more than that. I know this question was raised by others too in some other thread to SAM but we never got the reply from SAM.
SAM bhai, if you can please put some light on this issue
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Old 14th May 2009, 21:57   #107
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I am not sure about that.
Depends much on your listening style etc.
320 is the incorrect figure according to sonicelectronix.

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though its mentioned 300w which aint too different.
What is the optimal power range for the IDv3?
I know the ID Max has 250-1000w
I think for MAX its 50-1000W. And for IDV3, its 50-350W.
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how each pair of channels works is ideally independent of how the other works. If one pair of channels can put out 320W bridged, when the other pair is also putting out 320W , also bridged, it should certainly be able to output the same amount (if not more ) when the other 2 outputs are in single ended mode and drawing less power
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Alright guys, i finally got the the IDV3 12" installed with JBL1004. Damm i must say, JBL amp has made the HERTZ sound amzaing. I mean till this time they were just lying around but now they sound just so perfect. With ID running along, they are amazing.
PERFECT is the word for them. Only thing i noticed is that after a long time of listning, the amp was really hot. Is that common?? it was like after 4-5 hours of listening. most of the time 50-80% of its capability.
One more thing, does ID sub needs some time to get into its optimal state?? if so then how much time does it need to get it blasting?
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Alright guys, i finally got the the IDV3 12" installed with JBL1004. Damm i must say, JBL amp has made the HERTZ sound amzaing. I mean till this time they were just lying around but now they sound just so perfect. With ID running along, they are amazing.
PERFECT is the word for them. Only thing i noticed is that after a long time of listning, the amp was really hot. Is that common?? it was like after 4-5 hours of listening. most of the time 50-80% of its capability.
One more thing, does ID sub needs some time to get into its optimal state?? if so then how much time does it need to get it blasting?
Hey I had checked with Eric Stevens, owner of Image Dynamics,USA he said any ID sub needs atleast 30-40 hours of listening for break in. And don't go too high at the volume till then.

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Hey I had checked with Eric Stevens, owner of Image Dynamics,USA he said any ID sub needs atleast 30-40 hours of listening for break in. And don't go to high at the volume till than.
Thanks Bro. but i think i had already gone to ID fullest level with Bass tester song. However i will take care of this now and will not go beyond its 50-60% of its capability. But i must say, even now its shaking my whole car. I mean last night me and one of my friend was driving down listening to music, i must say, my HAIR was literly shaking with the music. I mean they were totaly vibrating. i was wondering if this is what it can do, i cant wait till it breaks even
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Only thing i noticed is that after a long time of listning, the amp was really hot. Is that common?? it was like after 4-5 hours of listening. most of the time 50-80% of its capability.
hey congrats !!!

Amp becoming hot that's natural thing so no need to worry about it, don't force your sub to it max till it breaks in.

enjoy.
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all right this might be slight OT, but did not want to create a new thread for the same, so i am asking my question here,

these rainbow sub woofers have a nominal impedance/DC resistance rated as either 1x3,6 or 2x3,6 or 2x3,20.

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in the vanadium and other series, how is one suppose to wire this(series/parallel)? i mean this is the first time i have come across such an Impedance rating and what kind of amplifier is suited for these sub woofers to run at a their max capacity while extracting the best power from the amps?
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Alright guys, i finally got the the IDV3 12" installed with JBL1004. Damm i must say, JBL amp has made the HERTZ sound amzaing. I mean till this time they were just lying around but now they sound just so perfect. With ID running along, they are amazing.
PERFECT is the word for them.
Hi Nitin, Congrats on your new sub. I'm looking out for a pair of components to go with my JBL 1004 and wanted to audition your Hertz. Can we meet sometime this coming week?
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The "3,6" is 3.6 ohms. In colloquial terms, that is "4 ohms". Impedance mentioned in a rating sheet is a representative figure, since the real impedance is frequency dependent. DC resistance will not be 4ohms, it will be more like 3.2ohms. VC Impedance is partly resistance, partly inductance (which is f dependent). I think even a couple of JBL models (I think) have actual impedance < 4 ohms, nominally called 4ohms.

To reckon with amp suitability, just work with 4ohms or 2ohms - based on how the coils are wired. Even stability figure of the amp (1, 2 or 4ohm) would be on the same grounds.
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Alright guys, i finally got the the IDV3 12" installed with JBL1004. Damm i must say, JBL amp has made the HERTZ sound amzaing. I mean till this time they were just lying around but now they sound just so perfect. With ID running along, they are amazing.
PERFECT is the word for them. Only thing i noticed is that after a long time of listning, the amp was really hot. Is that common?? it was like after 4-5 hours of listening. most of the time 50-80% of its capability.
One more thing, does ID sub needs some time to get into its optimal state?? if so then how much time does it need to get it blasting?
Congrats, Nitin on a very good purchase. The iDv3 is very capable of shaking the entire car up, but it is not plain SPL, with the right gains it can integrate with the front stage beautifully.

Where did you get the install done?? Is the setup tuned. Playing Bass Tester as soon as the sub was installed was truly not the right way, be careful next time. Also what type of enclosure Sealed or ported??
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Congrats, Nitin on a very good purchase. The iDv3 is very capable of shaking the entire car up, but it is not plain SPL, with the right gains it can integrate with the front stage beautifully.

Where did you get the install done?? Is the setup tuned. Playing Bass Tester as soon as the sub was installed was truly not the right way, be careful next time. Also what type of enclosure Sealed or ported??
Ya Manan, i think i was tooo exited to test my sub that i couldnt wait. Well i will take care of this now. Does it really need 30-40 hours to break even?? I have been using it since friday so i guess i must have used around 15 hrs by now.
The sub is in sealed box as i already had my old sub in it and didnt want to have the ported one as they dont gel with the kind of music i listen to.

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Hi Nitin, Congrats on your new sub. I'm looking out for a pair of components to go with my JBL 1004 and wanted to audition your Hertz. Can we meet sometime this coming week?
Sure Bro, but i am only free on weekends so maybe we can meet then. However if you work or live in gurgoan, then maybe we can meet there on weekdays as my office is in gurgaon. Let me know which ever suits you.

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hi nitin congratulations on the new sub. its a BEAUTY!!!
enjoy!

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I dont know if i can post the pics here or not but i really dont want to open up a new thread in show off and put it there.
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I think even a couple of JBL models (I think) have actual impedance < 4 ohms, nominally called 4ohms.
Actually a few of JBL's models have a nominal stated impedace of 2 ohms but are actually measure about 2.6-2.8 ohms.
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