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Old 15th April 2009, 03:04   #1
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I have started a Car PC project in my TATA SAFARI and this thread is to share and get the required information from you all. Please contribute your suggestions.

Here is the current proposed block diagram.

The Big picture: http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/7366/ibmpc2.png
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$1000?? Now that's gonna be one helluva car pc setup. All the best on your build and waiting for more details.
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This is quite good amount of load for battery. Will this PSU be able to give steady 12v even during self start? Check it otherwise it will cause restart of PC whenever you will start the engine.
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Where are you sourcing your parts from ? Being a Safari, I guess there will be no space constraints. You can even think of installing a thin client.
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Where are you sourcing your parts from ?
Its all from abroad. I am sure not to source any single unit from iride (Aren't they overpriced? My entire system will cost around $2000, if I bought everything in India!)

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You can even think of installing a thin client.
I am not interested in VoomPC cases as space is not a constraint to me. I have planning to install the PC in a Micro ATX Zeb cabinet called CUBE : Products - Pro Series, Computer Cabinets, Keyboards, Mouses, Power Supplies, Speakers, Web Cameras, Jet, Hawk, Shivaji, Antibiotic

The reason for this: Its cheap and couldn't stress my $1000 budget. Its heavy(yes 6.5KG!) and dont shake. It looks fantastic and its CUBE in shape, not rectangular.

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Will this PSU be able to give steady 12v even during self start?
Yes, its a 360W $200 PSU from OPUS and it will handle 7.5v also using inbuilt capacitors.

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are you sure that if you got the same things form iride it will cost you expensive

in my opinion which i have seen till date (for the last 7 months from the date i have started my car pc setup ) i have invested around 60k (1200$) and i am just short of the sound card ,rest the setup has been completed .

it includes wirings,adaptors,hubs,gps modules,screen fitments to double din(as my car is santro) mmi scroller( like the bmw and audi),belkin cables

why you going for the 10 inch screen i think the feasible one is 8inch one

Where do you wanto install it?
why you going for 360W PSU ,you can go for the 250watts which is sufficient.


the main question is that how you will osurce the parts fron US? yourself go and buy and then hand carry,any friend,any dealer or will directly ship from there to india

This question will give your costing to us at one go .

still i would say to got for iride as you can get the after sales service from then rather than the US ones (just think ,this i am saying because few days back my screen wasn't working while changing the position and it was sheldon who helped me not the US company )even my friend have a US purchased screen and it's not working now and we are looking for a engineer in delhi who can repair it
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still i would say to got for iride as you can get the after sales service from then rather than the US ones (just think ,this i am saying because few days back my screen wasn't working while changing the position and it was sheldon who helped me not the US company )even my friend have a US purchased screen and it's not working now and we are looking for a engineer in delhi who can repair it
I completely agree with smokin here. I have experienced the excellent support from iRide.
Sheldon has replaced my PSU thrice. And My final SB-160D is working beautifully.
Sending back those stuffs for replacement to US/U.K. would be costly for sure.
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are you sure that if you got the same things form iride it will cost you expensive
I am sure it will cost me $2000 if I build the same PC from the products in india.

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the main question is that how you will osurce the parts fron US? yourself go and buy and then hand carry,any friend,any dealer or will directly ship from there to india
Yes, All of them works for me.

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still i would say to got for iride as you can get the after sales service from then rather than the US ones (just think ,this i am saying because few days back my screen wasn't working while changing the position and it was sheldon who helped me not the US company )even my friend have a US purchased screen and it's not working now and we are looking for a engineer in delhi who can repair it
The product what iride sells is nothing but mini-box PSUs and China TFTs. A 10.4 inch TFT monitor cost you 20k in iride where 10k if you buy it from the manufacturer directly. They too give you 1 year warranty and it wont cost you more to reapir. The Samsung LCD Panel cost you $50 to replace and the touchpanel cost you $20 to replace.

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this i am saying because few days back my screen wasn't working while changing the position
Do you power the screen with regulated 12v or battery 12v?

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why you going for the 10 inch screen i think the feasible one is 8inch one

Where do you want to install it?
why you going for 360W PSU ,you can go for the 250watts which is sufficient.
Ok here is the answers for all your WHY this questions:

Cabinet: Zebronics Pro CUBE
Why this: It’s the cheap and compact Micro ATX Cab with 6.5 kg weight

PSU: OPUS 360W Automotive DC-DC
Why this: It has +12v out and modular connectors and cost me same as 250w DSATX/OPUS

Motherboard: Gigabyte EG31MF-S2
Why this: It has Advanced DES which saves upto 70% power

CPU: Intel E7300
Why this: It’s the cheap 45nm Core 2 Duo proc with Speedstep technology

RAM: Corsair XMS2 2GB DDR2 800Mhz
Why this: Its cost the same but better than transcend

Graphics: XFX 7600 GT DDR3
Why this: It consumes only 35w and has native fullscreen overlay

Sound: Asus Xonar DX
Why this: It has 4.0 Dolby UPMIX and sounds better than my X-FI

HDD: Seagate 2.5” Momentus 7200.4 320 GB
Why this: Its fast and handle 350/1000Gs shock

Drive: BENQ DVD Writer
Why this: Because I have a spare

Monitor: 10.4” Samsung TFT Panel Touchscreen
Why this: Real Samsung LCD Panel and better than junky liliputs

TV Out: 2*7 inch widescreen TFT Monitor
Why this: Cheap and better color reproduction than Necvox

Webcam: Agent 3MP CCD USB HD Cam
Why this: Real 3MP CCD sensor, Auto focus and crystal clear at 30 fps

IR: PC Media Remote Controller
Why this: It’s cheap and don’t interfere with 2.4G. Good for media control

Bluetooth: USB Bluetooth 2.0 Dongle
Why this: It’s cheaper than 2.1 and better than 1.2

GPS: QSTARZ MTK2 Keychain Bluetooth Nano GPS
Why this: Thin, 66 channels, 5 Hz, A-GPS, USB+Bluetooth, better than SiRF III

Wi-Fi: Belkin 802.11G USB Wi-Fi Adapter
Why this: It has 400ft range, looks beautiful and cheaper than N.

KB: Brando 2.4G wireless Keyboard with TouchPad
Why this: Good wireless range, has Touch panel instead of the croppy trackball.

Mouse: 2.4G wireless Finger Mouse
Why this: 1000DPI, Rechargeable, works on any surface – only choice for driver

TV Tuner: DVB-T USB TV Tuner
Why this: because Chennai has some free DVB-T channels. DTH is not cheap.


Software:


Webcam: H.264 Webcam Deluxe
Why this: Controlled Motion tracking with automatic buffer based recording

Front End: CentraFuse 2.1
Why this: One touch, Inbuilt Bluesoleil Phone Control, looks beautiful than RR

Media player: BS Player Pro
Why this: Multiscreen, Desktop mode which plays video under the desktop

Navigation: Destinator 8 with Satguide One India Map
Why this: This satguide people are stupid enough to download their files free.

Effects: WinAmp with VST
Why this: WinAmp’s VST allows me to play songs thru Ozone, DFX & T-Racks

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Sheldon has replaced my PSU thrice. And My final SB-160D is working beautifully.
Yes, I too highly recommend you guys to buy from iride, if your budget is more than $1000 and going to buy products like Mini-box DC-DC power supplies, Lilitput/AUO/InnoLux touchscreen monitors and Intel mini-itx based motherboards.

If you are a kind of person who is still living with a croppy/stupid/faulty TCIC SAFARI, then I may not recommend you iride.

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Yes, I too highly recommend you guys to buy from iride, if your budget is more than $1000 and going to buy products like Mini-box DC-DC power supplies, Lilitput/AUO/InnoLux touchscreen monitors and Intel mini-itx based motherboards.

If you are a kind of person who is still living with a croppy/stupid/faulty TCIC SAFARI, then I may not recommend you iride.
ooohhhhh you are so rich! this is not the language you should use if anyone is just suggesting you to buy a good thing rather than suffering later.

if you happy with the same go ahead ,i would love to see this config pc for sure

and do mind it my setup is way ahead of your 1000$ ones so mind it ,i already have spend more than 60000 (1400 $ i suppose as some of equipments were purchased at 40INR per$)

so it's not the money always my dear friend we see ,it's the convenience during the issues/problems/mishapp and i am really really happy with my setup as i have some friends who can help me out during my problems.

if you are satisfied with the same ,that's what really matters .

@nisarg:what's the update?
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ooohhhhh you are so rich! this is not the language you should use
No man, you completely misunderstand my statement. I tried to say if you are poor, then avoid buying from iride and import from china. Iride is one of the best car pc supplier in india, but we cant buy anything from them to build a Car PC in $1000. For example, your small ITX-Pc cost you more than $1400.

For poorman's like me(those who cant even buy a 2.2 DICOR) I dont recommend iride.
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wow amazing!!
eagerly waiting for installation pics and progress reports
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Almost I have received 99% of the products and PC is running in Home for the last 2 weeks continuously for a test. but my Car is in workshop as usual.
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No man, you completely misunderstand my statement. I tried to say if you are poor, then avoid buying from iride and import from china. Iride is one of the best car pc supplier in india, but we cant buy anything from them to build a Car PC in $1000. For example, your small ITX-Pc cost you more than $1400.

For poorman's like me(those who cant even buy a 2.2 DICOR) I dont recommend iride.
it's never rich/poor it's all about your thinking ,use resources etc


sir i saved 2 months of my salary to start my setup i am saying that it's now 8 months and i am still saving for my next upgrades

and i am using it on my santro ,which is 7 yrs old and still with me and i cant upgrade coz i dont have money .

do check my thread on diy section.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/diy-do...my-car-pc.html

How you deal with china manufacturers?

leave this argument aside and start with a new pc ,if any help needed just let me know ,i will be there

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Ok Here are the other products I have purchased to build the Car PC. They are just supporting products and has nothing to do with the Car PC. So should not be calculated in $1000 budget:

Other Non-PC Devices:

4 Channel 12V RCA Video Booster

RoadPro Car Digital Compass, Temperature and Voltage Meter

Wireless VFD Display Car Reverse 4 Sensors Kit

150W 12v DC to 220v AC Car Power Inverter

Sony CCD 12V IR Night Vision Reverse Camera – For Backup

Car Media FM Transmitter, MP4 Player

Corsair 32GB Flash Voyager USB Pen Drive

JBL GTO75.4 II 520 Watt 4-channel amplifier

JBL GT5-604 240-Watt 4-Channel amplifier

JBL GTO 607c 210W Component Systems– 2 Pair Front and Rear

JBL GT5–12 1100W 12" Subwoofer

Connectors & Switch:

Tsunami M-ANL Fused 3*4 Gauge to 4*8 gauge Distribution Block

Tsunami Inline 150A ANL Fuse Box

45A Anderson power connectors

5 Amp SPDT toggle switch

2 Amp SPST Push Button Switch

PC Reset & LED Panel

CAT-5 Female to Female adapter

Spade Terminals, Fuses, Crimp connectors and Ring Terminals

Cables:

4 GA Fiberglass Wire – 6 meter

6 GA Finolex wire – 2 meter

8 GA Tsunami wire – 2 meters

9 GA Finolex wire – 8 meter

14 GA Finolex wire – 5 meters

17 GA Finolex wire – 10 meters

5 Meter VGA Extension Ultra Slim cable

5 Meter CAT-5e+ cable

5 Meter Active USB Cable

3 Meter RCA Male to RCA Male cable

2 * 1.5 Meter RCA Male to RCA Male cable

3 * 1.5 meter 2 RCA Male to 2 RCA Male cable

3 * 1.4 Stereo to 2 RCA Female cable

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And here is the update. Sorry for the copyright notice. (will PM you the original or Photoshop picture, if anybody needs it for reference!).

DATA Flow Diagram:

My 00 car PC in TATA SAFARI-data.png

The Big Picture: http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/306/datad.png

Guys, Please help me to correct my mistakes. Avoid using this thread to ask me whether I am rich or poor.

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