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Originally Posted by abhibh Frank anything mechanical does need a running in, thats what i believe in. Speakers are complex thing, the moving coil is a mechanical device and it does require some running in as the drivers to loosen up a bit. The movable parts are not as much as in cars but they do require some running in.
Though it depends upon from speaker to speaker, some benefit more from running in.
Now lets discuss second point. 5000 Rupee RCAs being "a strong link in the signal chain."
I hope you know about resistance ?
I did a RCA resistance test between various cables. JBL, BOSS and MX
The resistance value of BOSS cable which costs mere 150-200 bucks was 8 OHM
JBL RCA had a resistance of 2.5 OHM.
Now the surprising part was MX cable. The resistance was less than 1 OHM. it came out to be 0.9 or 0.6 i don't remember correctly but i think anything below 1 is pretty good.
So maybe Rs 5000 cable is the strong link in the signal chain. Most of these cables are costly because they have to cover the over head expenses and brand name. Why do we buy Rs 3000 Nike shoes even though we know that BATA also manufactures the same quality shoes ?
- Brand Name ?
- We believe that costlier is better ?
- Nike has better design shoes ?
- We are victim of marketing ?
- Or is it the fact that those shoes last long and doesn't give up on you ? |
there. you answered my question. you tested MX rcas that cost around 450 rupees, with RCA's (JBL.
***Boss i am not mentioning also, coming to that later) that cost maybe double or 1.5 times the cost, and found mx to be better. WHY SHOULD I PAY FOR THE COMPANY's brand name and their high marketing expenses, if i have a wire that does the job and saves my money????
(not splaying any dirt on any brand here, please not, I have no personal interest, nor any bias for and against any brand)
NOW, you compare the sound from, say Audison Connection BEST cables and that of Monster XLN Pros, and i shall award you with a large obscene amount of money if you can do a blindfold differentiation between the two! When we talk about EXPENSIVE cable, we do not mean that 200 rupee RCA's (
***idhar Boss ki baat chal rahi hai) are as good. Yes, but after a price point, the difference in quality reduces exponentially, after which you have more or less equal sounding systems.
RCA's just transmit the signal. Not many companies produce HIGH resistance RCAs anymore, and an entry level RCA like MX proves it.
Let's make it simpler. Use you MX rcas. Listen to your system. Unplug the Mx RCAs, and
WITHOUT MAKING ANY CHANGES IN THE PRESENT CONFIGURATION, insert say, Audition/Stinger/Monster RCAs. TELL ME how much better your system sounds. I know the answer already
I'll toss one more question here. You have used all gauges of wiring from 8 gauge till 0 gauge. Pray tell me, how much of a difference, changing the gauge of wire will make, even if the current gauge of wiring is ENOUGH to support the present equipment. *i speak of power wire here. I know of lots of people who have spent 10s of thousands of rupees on power wiring!
I also know of people who have been COAXED into changing their xxx wiring(very respectable brand: Known to make square shaped subwoofers) to yyy wiring (blue wires), and then told to hear the difference. This is what I mean by EARWASH!
I am still repeating: 100 rupee RCA wires will sound FAR worse than 1000 rupee wires (if your luck is good, you might not get the whine with 100 rupees
maal).
But 1000 rupee wires will NOT sound different from 10000 rupee wires!
your example of NIKE is good, albeit flawed. You tell me, people who can afford Nike will buy Nike, but people who cannot afford or (let me reframe this) people who do not want to spend 2k on a pair of walking shoes, will forgo something as cheaply built and quite OBVIOUSLY utilitarian looking as the Bata canvas shoes , but will buy something sturdy enough like Lotto for Rs. 800 and STILL be happy with them. The shoes WILL surely serve their purpose. They will still be able to walk in them and run at the same speeds!
And people will have as much of a chance of tripping with the Lotto shoes, as they will have with the Nike shoes.
In the above citation, Nike is the 10000 rupee RCA, Lotto is the Rs. 1000 rupee one and the Bata Canvas shoes are the Rs. 100 RCA!
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Originally Posted by sabret00the I'll keep watching this thread to learn from what the Gurus discuss. I feel wiring matters. I have EL Cheapo wiring in my car which has completely ruined the experience from the ICE. |
highlights my point. Cheap, unbranded, unreliable wiring WILL degrade quality. But decent branded wiring built to stringent levels of quality (for their price) will do the job as competently as highly exhorbitant wiring