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Old 29th March 2012, 08:56   #31
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Sorry to hear your loss.

Points to take care.

Keep rear speakers hidden, keep something like newspapers etc on it so that its not easily visible to people outside if you are using speakers.
Take off the front plate of your Head unit and carry it to your home (I do it daily, carry it along with car papers)

Wonder why two windows were broken, when thieves stole the head unit from my car, they broke only side rear window pane and had lowered the rear window to get entry into the car.
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Old 29th March 2012, 09:20   #32
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Sorry to hear about your loss.

I had got a HYUNDAI COBRA system (but it is actually autocop -hyundai just gives it another name) installed in my santro when I bought it about 10 years back (April 2002). At that time cost came to around 8K. It has ultra sonic sensors which fit on the roof just close to the A pillars. It is still very sensitive and even if I leave the window open and arm the system, if anyone even puts a hand inside the window the alarm goes off. It basically will sense any movement inside the car. I have had cases of forgetting my cellphone inside the car and later on the alarm goes off in case of a incoming call on the cell and then I remember ahh I forgot something!!!. Also I have to always shut off the alarm on Diwali night as even crackers exploding in the vicinity cause the alarm to go off. I have been quite satisfied with it till date. There are many other features I dont even remember all of them - auto engine shut off , anti hijack etc etc.

I would advise you to get something like this for your car. But then please remember no system is 100% foolproof. Always keep the head unit front plate with you.
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Old 29th March 2012, 09:29   #33
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...... The sad part is that the central locking alarm did not work. I guess it is usual for central locking system in Hyundai not to go on until some door,etc is not unlocked. Nothing else was taken and what was taken was quite obsolete. We keep our car outside and it has a gear lock and I pull out 2 of the 4 spark plug wires every night. Can somebody recommend a change in the alarm system or something which is more sensitive to windows breaks, etc? Can I claim the insurance for what has been stolen? Any help will be appreciated.
Security system works only when the doors are opened. Infact retro fitted ones do not alarm even when boot is opened, as normally there will be only four sensors at doors. You need to insist for a additional sensor at boot.
OK, in your case only shock sensor can help you. This activates alarm if there is some physical shock to car.
But at times its too sensitive, as even a truck passing by can activate it.

Its really a good practice to pulll out remove spark plug connectors.
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Old 29th March 2012, 10:23   #34
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Security system works only when the doors are opened.

Just gave a call to two of the Hyundai ASC in my city and they said that they have no other security system other than that is already installed in my car and that they cannot add any sensors,etc to the existing one. I guess they have stopped providing any other security systems than the stock one. This makes all Hyundai cars with the stock security prone to thefts as the alarm will not go off until the door or boot is unlocked. Anybody can smash the windows and steal anything from the car. Or simply smash a window, somehow disable the battery(so that the alarm stops working) and use a key to drive away the car.
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Sorry to hear about your loss. Suggest couple of things for your help in future.

1. Have a motion/ proximity/ shock sensor installed apart from the regular central locking system. This certainly helps by alarm going off if someone tries to fiddle around/with the car.

2. Did you have sun film on the glass? Its tough to break a glass with sun film. Though it cracks, it does not shamble to pieces thus preventing the thief reaching into the cars interiors.

3. Also try to cover the car with a good quality car cover (may be a pain to do it daily but helps though). That should hesitate the thief from opening the cover laces and removing it.

And removing the spark plug connectors is a good practice you're already following.
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Sorry to hear about your loss. Suggest couple of things for your help in future.

1. Have a motion/ proximity/ shock sensor installed apart from the regular central locking system. This certainly helps by alarm going off if someone tries to fiddle around/with the car.

2. Did you have sun film on the glass? Its tough to break a glass with sun film. Though it cracks, it does not shamble to pieces thus preventing the thief reaching into the cars interiors.

3. Also try to cover the car with a good quality car cover (may be a pain to do it daily but helps though). That should hesitate the thief from opening the cover laces and removing it.
I agree that getting additional sensors fitted is the best idea. If Hyundai say they don't have anything, go to a trusted alarm specialist and have them fit extra sensors.

Sun film will prevent the glass from spreading out when shattered but will not prevent the thief. All he really needs to do is use something sharp to cut the tint and it all comes out in one easy piece for him. In fact it is easier as he does not have to risk sitting on broken glass when working inside the car.

A car cover is both good and bad. The major risk with it is that once the thief gets inside the car, he can work in peace as nobody can see what is happening under the covers. Therefore he does not need to hurry up and may wind up stealing even more stuff that he can get his hands on.
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I pull out the wires only at night and car is not used every day of the week so it is not much of a pain.
Whenever I am going on a vacation without my car, I prefer to take away the ignition fuse from the car. I thief is less likely to spot the problem of missing fuse, and even lesser likely to have brought a spare fuse with him.
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Sad to hear about the theft, on the security system what i have found is Autocop to be the best when it comes to being sensitive to something happening to the car. I used to have it in my Indica and the moment someone touches it (a little hard) and it starts shouting. Was too sensitive to my liking and hence reduced it.

Maybe getting that installed would be a good idea, but be aware it starts shouting even when a truck passes by sometimes .

BTW the gear lock and steering lock are sufficient to cause enough problems for the guy trying to steal the car, hence removing the spark plug wires is an overkill in my opinion.

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Just gave a call to two of the Hyundai ASC in my city and they said that they have no other security system other than that is already installed in my car and that they cannot add any sensors,etc to the existing one. I guess they have stopped providing any other security systems than the stock one. This makes all Hyundai cars with the stock security prone to thefts as the alarm will not go off until the door or boot is unlocked. Anybody can smash the windows and steal anything from the car. Or simply smash a window, somehow disable the battery(so that the alarm stops working) and use a key to drive away the car.
Fitting a shock sensor/additional door sensor is not a big deal. Take it to outside market and its easy. Dont wait anymore. Your proactiveness of disconnecting spark plugs should compliment this.
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BTW the gear lock and steering lock are sufficient to cause enough problems for the guy trying to steal the car, hence removing the spark plug wires is an overkill in my opinion.
I regret to say you can never have enough overkill. If someone is insistent on stealing your car, there are no limits they will not go to. For a pro thief, a gear and steering lock are just going to slow him down, not stop him.
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I regret to say you can never have enough overkill. If someone is insistent on stealing your car, there are no limits they will not go to. For a pro thief, a gear and steering lock are just going to slow him down, not stop him.
That's true, but a time dragging by 15 to 20 min is a difference between loosing and retaining your car.
As you said the more we drag, the more we save the car from theft.
In fact I advice you to have multiple options closed - gear lock, steering lock and even disconnecting ignition system or fuses to remain safe. I am sure if your car is stolen even after this, then God save
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Thank you mates for your support and help! One of my uncles is the second largest dealer of Bosch parts in my state and the state distributor of Bosch Car Service i.e. they allot and control all the Bosch Car Service centers. So I have left my car with one of the BCS and they will install new glasses, fix dents at a few places and paint and do the servicing of my car. I wont even have to pay insurance file charge of Rs 500 Everything else will be checked and fixed, though I am certain that everything else should be fine. I also inquired about some advanced security system and they told me that I can get a very sensitive one installed in anything between Rs 3000-3500. I will look for someone to install additional sensors if possible or else get a new security system. Later I will get a new head unit and rear speakers after consulting experts like you guys!

If anybody is looking for some Bosch/MICO/Holset/etc part which they are unable to find I can try sourcing it and courier it to you Just like I got a Bosch Platinum Plus plug for my Classic for Rs 200 while RE workshop people were asking Rs 750 for the same plug.
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That's true, but a time dragging by 15 to 20 min is a difference between loosing and retaining your car.
As you said the more we drag, the more we save the car from theft.
In fact I advice you to have multiple options closed - gear lock, steering lock and even disconnecting ignition system or fuses to remain safe. I am sure if your car is stolen even after this, then God save
I agree that the more time needed to steal a car, the more likely the thief is to leave it alone and move onto an easier target. Therefore, the best thing to do is put as many visual deterrents in the way as possible (gear lock, steering lock, alarm with motion sensor inside etc.) and take away all the attractions in the car as much as practical (removable face plate of HU, keep amp and speakers hidden as much as possible). Don't leave your laptop in the car when you go out, as this just encourages the smash and grab artists who may not even be concerned about the alarm going off provided they can get away ASAP and not have anyone realise it was them that did it.

I agree that if our car gets stolen even after this then god himself needs to help us.
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Sorry for your loss mate.
Motion sensor's would totally be worth it, I had them in my old swift and it used to work like a charm.

OT: Is there any motion sensor model which fits for Civic?
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Sorry for your loss mate.
Motion sensor's would totally be worth it, I had them in my old swift and it used to work like a charm.

OT: Is there any motion sensor model which fits for Civic?
AFAIK, all alarm models are generic and can be fitted on any vehicle. Of course some of the features may not work. For example if you have an immobiliser that works on the ECU and you have an older car without an ECU, that feature will not work, but things lke door opening, glass breaking, motion sensor etc. will work on any model of car.
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