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Old 25th April 2006, 14:01   #3271
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JBL Oval Coaxials (rear)- GTO 936e - Rs.3150/-
Are you sure about this? The MRP is 4750 and I don't generally see discounts of more that 10%
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Old 25th April 2006, 14:14   #3272
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Amigo, any company that makes only speakers, has to make better speakers than the ones that also make speakers. JBL has a mad, fun and performance oriented attitude and offers great performance for the money and has great presence, products and backup in India. (I know, i work for JBL) but NO BRAND is better than another. it is all a matter of personal choice. I always say, buy a good speaker from a specialist brand. See what you like. It's your money.
Yo Señor, si !... Gracias, Pero pedía una cierta información acerca de especificaciones técnicas. Proporcione por favor los detalles como el siguiente...

- What is the optimum frequency that I should look for, while getting a speaker. What does JBL offer ?
- I believe in JBL we have a patent pending woofer cones... what is it made of and how different is it in other competitor speakers ?
- What is a crossover? what is it to do with dB. How much dB is appropriate... 506 says its 12dB outboard crossover... what does it mean?
- I understand that component series would split the frequency and send it across to bass and tweeter separately from the HU. What is the appropriate placement of the tweeter ? Is there any special head unit that should be bought specially for implementing components in your car or any HU would do the job?
- Some HU says 60W x 4... meaning ?
- How can a person connect Comp, Speakers, Tweeters, Sub, Amp everything to a HU ? Is there so many provisions in any head unit ?

Donno whether I have asked simple and stupid questions... I may have... please understand that I dont come from Electrical background and all these are greek and latin to my understanding... Navin / Sam, could you please explain all this in lay man terms...?
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Old 25th April 2006, 14:17   #3273
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Are you sure about this? The MRP is 4750 and I don't generally see discounts of more that 10%
Yup Mohit, I got this deal... this guy is known to my friend... donno whether I would be getting a bill / warranty though...
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Zephyr,

The cheapest Alpine with 3 pre outs is the 9847 about 14K. Blau makes a HU with 3 pre outs that retails for about 9K i dont remember the model but it has a blue face. BTW Blau = blue and Punkt = dont. see that blue dot in the center of the volume control knob in the "Blau-punkt". Blaupunkt, a 100% subsidiary of Robert Bosch GmbH., is named after the blue dot it painted onto its headphones in the 40s and 50s.
ok I have problems with teh but see that! blue dont :P
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ok I have problems with teh but see that! blue dont :P
sorry i meant point. my mind is getting worse. sorry.
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- What is the optimum frequency that I should look for?
- What is a crossover? what is it to do with dB...mean?
- ...What is the appropriate placement of the tweeter ?
- Some HU says 60W x 4... meaning ?
- How can a person connect Comp, Speakers, Tweeters, Sub, Amp everything to a HU ? Is there so many provisions in any head unit ?
...all these are greek and latin to my understanding... ?
Me? not me Sam, Gunbir, JB and B&T are the Gurus. To me all these specs are Spannish!
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And I dont even speak Spanish (I do understand it though - anch'io parlo l'italiano, ma zephyr - perche parli l'espanol? Studi la lingua?)
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FIND THIS MONTHS AUTOCAR THEN!!
Hey Sam.... Gotcha!!
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... is that amp good stuff??
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Don't feel bad, but your questions make it very obvious your are completely non technical I also believe I'm the only one brave enough to attempt answering your questions. Because I'm a cheeky bugger. lol
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- What is the optimum frequency that I should look for, while getting a speaker. What does JBL offer?
You don't look for a "frequency" while looking for a speaker. There are other parameters,many. However I suggest you look for a good brand within your budget and stick to it.
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- I believe in JBL we have a patent pending woofer cones... what is it made of and how different is it in other competitor speakers ?
Hoo boy. I let that one slide earlier. This is gonna be a toughie. Navin stop snickering, I can see you.
A patent is a copyright on a particular technology that you create. You make the technology, then present it to a particular office in the United States and they give you a Patent Number that you print on your product. While you wait for the number, you use the term "Patent Pending" to make sure nobody copies what you did. JBL uses a lot of in-house R&D and the immediate reaction of any new technology used is to apply for a patent on it and wait for a number. Hence "Patent pending". JBL has hundreds of patents and pending patents. Hence as you see, there is no such thing as a patent pending woofer.
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- What is a crossover? what is it to do with dB. How much dB is appropriate... 506 says its 12dB outboard crossover... what does it mean?
A crossover is a device that seperates the frequencies of music and redirects them to the right speaker for the job. Outboard means in a seperate box, outside. I can answer the other questions, but it will confuse you further. Don't go in that direction unless you are a more experienced user.
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- I understand that component series would split the frequency and send it across to bass and tweeter separately from the HU. What is the appropriate placement of the tweeter ? Is there any special head unit that should be bought specially for implementing components in your car or any HU would do the job?
You are correct. Generally the tweeter would be mounted at a higher level than the mids, closer to the ear. Either at the point where your door meets your dashboards, the corner or on the windshield glass etc.
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- Some HU says 60W x 4... meaning ?
Meaning the head unit claims to be able to put out 60W into each of it's 4 channels. A marketing lie....completely untrue.
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- How can a person connect Comp, Speakers, Tweeters, Sub, Amp everything to a HU ? Is there so many provisions in any head unit ?
The HU can be connected only to 4 speakers, no more. To connect multiple speakers we use amplifiers. The HU can be connected to many amplifiers that will drive any kind of speaker, comps, subs, coaxials etc.

I hope I've been able to help you. Don't delve too deeply, you may get further confused. Go for a good brand HU and good brand speakers. Take basic simple advice from people here

Try questions like Should i buy a pioneer 6850, should i buy JBL CS series etc. Complicated questions lead to complicated answers (You haven't discovered complication till you've met Navin).
Enjoy your music Amigo, thats what it's all about.
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Hey Sam.... Gotcha!!
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... is that amp good stuff??
The amps are the same from 2005, no changes there.
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Sam, sounds like a revision of things you learnt over the years.

What's with the Spanish and which is this new amp?

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Old 25th April 2006, 20:15   #3282
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- What is the optimum frequency that I should look for, while getting a speaker. What does JBL offer ?
- I believe in JBL we have a patent pending woofer cones... what is it made of and how different is it in other competitor speakers ?
- What is a crossover? what is it to do with dB. How much dB is appropriate... 506 says its 12dB outboard crossover... what does it mean?
- I understand that component series would split the frequency and send it across to bass and tweeter separately from the HU. What is the appropriate placement of the tweeter ? Is there any special head unit that should be bought specially for implementing components in your car or any HU would do the job?
- Some HU says 60W x 4... meaning ?
- How can a person connect Comp, Speakers, Tweeters, Sub, Amp everything to a HU ? Is there so many provisions in any head unit ?

Donno whether I have asked simple and stupid questions... I may have... please understand that I dont come from Electrical background and all these are greek and latin to my understanding... Navin / Sam, could you please explain all this in lay man terms...?
What optimum frequency are you talking about here? Maybe I missed a previous post of yours but I assume you're talking about the frequency response. Most companies B.S. you about the frequency response. In fact I had read an Alpine catalog which stated the freq. response of a component system as 5Hz - 1,00,000 Hz!!! Of course it didnt have the brackets at the end specifying +/- how many dB, or that would have run into 6 digits too! Don't bother about the freq. response, mostly at similar price points, speakers do almost the same thing.

I have no clue about the patent on the cones, Sam should answer that to your heart's content.

Please read my bhashan about apples and oranges..oops, crossovers and equalizers here.. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/car-en...bwoofer-7.html (types of enclosures for a subwoofer...)

dB on the crossovers is the slope at which the crossover is operating. Again, not something you need to worry about. If the manufacturer set it at 12dB/ octave, he's probably doing whats best for his speakers.

No special head unit required for 'implementing' the components. Just a decent installer, and he'll implement it so good you'll have to compliment him. Put the tweeter ideally a bit closer to the midwoofer for better results.

60x4 is the HU's peak power output, real rms output at 4ohms is usually like 18-20W. Thats how much juice you gonna get to feed your speakers.

You can connect all the tweeters and the subs and woofers to your head unit, a good installer would know how to. In fact you can connect just about anything to a head unit, I have a friend who has toasters in the front and a pair of washing machines in the rear, and boy you can have some nice sandwiches as your clothes are getting done. Of course I'm joking.



That should serve you right for posting some gibberish in Spanish!!
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Wow...i took such a long break writing the above reply that 2 guys got in their posts before me!
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So what will I do if i need to connect 3 pair of RCA's 2 pair for frnt and rear speakers and oen for sub!

Enlighten!

Oh, I have a converter from teh PA275 which I can connect to the speaker out connection of HU and get sub out! hehe.
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So what will I do if i need to connect 3 pair of RCA's 2 pair for frnt and rear speakers and oen for sub! when I haev only one RCA out?
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So what will I do if i need to connect 3 pair of RCA's 2 pair for frnt and rear speakers and oen for sub! when I haev only one RCA out?
JK you only have one RCA preout???

Well you can either use Y-splitters (pic below) to split your signal into 3 pairs... which is less than ideal. If you do so, set the preout for full range output from your HU. crossover threafter used will be the ones in the amps.



Or... get an external crossover. You can find a lot of used ones for cheap.

Or... get a new HU with 3 preouts!!!
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