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Old 20th March 2007, 12:25   #5551
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Read somewhere on Team-BHP that the Santro was a poor car for ICE. One of the reasons mentioned was the absence of a baffle in the dashboard enclosures for the 4" speakers. Can I request one of the gurus to explain what a baffle is? Could not find it in the glossary section and Crutchfield's explanation does not seem to match (something to wrap the speaker in to protect it from the elements).
Read somewhere else on Team-BHP that the Santro was an excellent car to ICE as far as placement of 3-way component speakers was concerned - mid-bass in the front doors, 4'' in dash and tweeters near the A-pillars. So can someone recommend a DIY improvement for the baffle?
No prizes for guessing that I own a Santro. Or does it own me?
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Old 20th March 2007, 12:26   #5552
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Read somewhere on TeamBHP that the Santro is a bad car for ICE as the enclosure for the 4" speaker in
The Santro's front speaker pods are not well designed. But then again ICE is not the main consdieration for a car designer.
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Old 20th March 2007, 14:31   #5553
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quick one, a good vfm player and a set of rear and front speakers, budget, 12-15k.
Will probbaly add an amp and sub if not satisfied with the four speakers.
And please suggest a place for the install in south bombay.

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Old 20th March 2007, 15:34   #5554
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quick one, a good vfm player and a set of rear and front speakers, budget, 12-15k.
Will probbaly add an amp and sub if not satisfied with the four speakers.
And please suggest a place for the install in south bombay.

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look out for a pioneer head unit.lot of nice entry level ones 3850,4850...will cost you aroun 4-5k and for speakers 6-7k.i doubt youll get components in this budget.

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Old 20th March 2007, 15:50   #5555
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[quote=manson;394881]quick one, a good vfm player and a set of rear and front speakers, budget, 12-15k.QUOTE]

quicker answer "Read the Sticky" :-)

Seriously,

under 15K it makes good sense to spend about half on the HU and the other half on 4 good 2 way coax speakers (none of that 4 or 5 way nonsense).
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Old 20th March 2007, 17:40   #5556
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navin, i ve read that thread a couple of times, its helpful.
But i need to know exact model nos of the headunit and speakers, have to pass on the info to someone.
I do recall you recommending gto series 637 and 937 speakers the the last time i came ardound this side of the forum, anything better than those since then?
And what player?

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Old 20th March 2007, 17:45   #5557
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quick one, a good vfm player and a set of rear and front speakers, budget, 12-15k.
Will probbaly add an amp and sub if not satisfied with the four speakers.
And please suggest a place for the install in south bombay.

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If you forget about the rear speakers for the time being, you may just be able to squeeze out a decent HU from Alpine or Pioneer and a good set of 2-way components from Alpine, JBL or Hertz. Further down the line, you may want to buy an amp and a sub to add bass as well as drive the components more powerfully.
Some Mumbai BHPians will no doubt recommend a good local installer very shortly.
All the best.
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Old 20th March 2007, 17:50   #5558
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@manson, the GTO series won't fit into the budget (along with a HU).

HU: Pio 4850 (2006 model) at about 5K (grey)
Front Speakers: JBL CS2165 (6.5" 2-way coaxials) @ 3K
Rear Speakers: -ditto-
TOTAL: 11K
If your friend wants to push the total to 15K, he can either get a better HU (Pio 6850) or get CS2165c 2-way components (@5k) for front.

BTW, which car? Speaker sizes might differ depending on the car.
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Old 20th March 2007, 18:24   #5559
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Guys,
What size speakers does the new Honda City ZX take in the front? Are 6x9's stock mountable on the rear parcel shelf?
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Old 20th March 2007, 23:15   #5560
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hydrashok, its for a swift, and last i check the 937 were at 4200 a paid, and i m guessing the 637 would be slightly cheaper (?), so say 7-8k for the speakers, my friend could easily get a HU for 6-7K right?

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@manson, for a Swift, 6.5" front & back (in the doors) is a direct fit. If your friend is not going for an amp+sub, he can get 6x9"s in an MDF tray in the back. If he will be going for an amp+sub a 6x9 will be a waste (unless he will have to remove the sub quite often to carry luggage).

GTO937s @4200/- a pair is a good price. Their MRP is something like 5000/-. With good prices like these, as you said, he can get GTO637s (MRP about 4000/-) in front and GTO937s in back (on the tray). And of course a HU for 6-7K like you said. The MDF tray would cost between 700/- and 900/- (unless you get that thrown in as part of the deal too ). Maybe, depending on the prices you're getting, he can get a GTO607c (6.5" comps, MRP approx. 6500/-) in front, instead of the 637s.

I haven't mentioned other brands because you mentioned JBLs. If your friend can/would like to, he should also give a listen to the Hertz Dieci series (DCX165 in front & DCX690 in back). Other choices are Blaupunkt's TH series and Alpine's Type Es.

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Guys,
What size speakers does the new Honda City ZX take in the front? Are 6x9's stock mountable on the rear parcel shelf?
NHCs take upto 6.5" in front with a spacer. Not too sure about the rear, but I think a 6x9 can be fitted without cutting-shutting.

NHCs will also need some damping esp. in the front door, if the speakers are going to be amped. Even powered off HUs, the doors tend to rattle a bit when the speakers are pushed hard.
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Other choices are Blaupunkt's TH series and Alpine's Type Es.
I feel type E's are bit low on bass . Type S would be very fine.
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Type S would be fine. But tight fit in his budget.

I second Hydra's recommendation. Squeezing in a pair of components in the front would be great. No need to go for a 6X9 unless Ma(n)son's friend is very much bass conscious and wants to achieve it without a Sub.
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Old 21st March 2007, 09:07   #5565
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I do recall you recommending gto series 637 and 937 speakers
Did I? I doubt it. Gunbir, Sam, et al would confirm that. I know I'm not be as knowledgeable as the other gurus (and that is one reason I do not recommend much) but I do know that sound is subjective and one must listen and decide for oneself.

However I would consider the options Hydra put up along with the Blau TH/OD series. I suspect the Alpine Type S might be a bit more expensive. To my ears the Alpine Type S sound quite different compared to the JBL GTO series so please listen to both.

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