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Old 28th May 2007, 14:48   #6001
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Required: A ICE HU with SD&MMC card slot and aux input.

Speakers are Pioneer 6X9 ( will have to check code) and Kenwood Fronts.

what are the options available and in what range?
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Old 28th May 2007, 15:29   #6002
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Hi Sam,
Just got to see this grr88 thread. Thought I should seek your advice on how to connect an aux unit to the 2 din 6 cd Sanyo changer that came along with my Ford Fiesta 1.6 sxi--it does not play mp3.
The manual does speak of an aux connection, but the Ford workshop guy says he checked and found only 2 inlets--one for the radio and the other for the main unit.
This is disappointing bcoz I was planning to connect my portable mp3 player to the car player.
Any suggestions?
As regards the player, it sounds good with CDs in it.
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Old 29th May 2007, 00:44   #6003
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Guys, I recently went in for a change of front speakers. The old and new setup are given below:

Old Setup:
01. HU: Alpine CDA - 9854R:
02. FS: Infinity Kappa - 652.7i (6.75" coaxial with crossover):
03. RS: Infinity Reference - 9613i (6"x9"):
04. Amp: JBL CS 60.4

New Setup:
01. HU: Alpine CDA - 9854R:
02. FS: Blaupunkt Velocity VSc 662 (Components):
03. RS: Infinity Reference - 9613i (6"x9"):
04. Amp: JBL CS 60.4

I went in for a change of front speakers from Kappa to Velocity for the following reasons:

01. Kappa: Too strong on the mid-range. Ideal for Metal/Hard Rock numbers.
02. Kappa: Sound not smooth enough for Trance/Pop.
03. Kappa: Need a bit more base.

The Kappas are rated @ 100w RMS and the Velocity @ 55w RMS! After installation, I was surprised to find the Velocity match up with the Kappa for loudness. In fact, the Velocity is a bit more louder and generates stronger base! Looks like the Kappas were over rated @ 100w RMS. The Velocity has larger magnets and offers smoother sound.

The combined sound produced by the speakers is excellent and crystal clear. There is more than adequate base with the loudness turned on in the HU. The rear speakers still produce much more base than the front ones. I was told by Sachin's Autoshop, B'lore that it is very difficult for the front speakers to produce the same amount of base as the rear ovals, since it's fitted on the door. Is it so?

BTW, now I am very happy with the sound as it is very close to what I had in mind . Thanks every one!
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Old 29th May 2007, 10:42   #6004
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The Kappas are rated @ 100w RMS and the Velocity @ 55w RMS! After installation, I was surprised to find the Velocity match up with the Kappa for loudness. In fact, the Velocity is a bit more louder and generates stronger base! Looks like the Kappas were over rated @ 100w RMS. The Velocity has larger magnets and offers smoother sound.
RMS does not define that this one will be louder....sensitivity will tell that thing...RMS wattage is the thermal capacity of that speaker which it can take.
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Old 29th May 2007, 11:04   #6005
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Required: A ICE HU with SD&MMC card slot and aux input.

Speakers are Pioneer 6X9 ( will have to check code) and Kenwood Fronts.

what are the options available and in what range?
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CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

We have now touched 6000 posts on this amazing body of work. 3 cheers to the best audio thread on earth!!! Congratulations to all the regulars!!!!! Well done and let's keep up the quality ICE advice!!!!
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Old 29th May 2007, 11:11   #6007
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are they available in india and for how much...
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CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

We have now touched 6000 posts on this amazing body of work. 3 cheers to the best audio thread on earth!!! Congratulations to all the regulars!!!!! Well done and let's keep up the quality ICE advice!!!!
3 Cheers to you, Sam, for starting this thread.
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[b]02. FS: Infinity Kappa - 652.7i (6.75" coaxial with crossover):
[b]02. FS: Blaupunkt Velocity VSc 662 (Components):

The Kappas are rated @ 100w RMS and the Velocity @ 55w RMS! ...The Velocity has larger magnets and offers smoother sound....
The rear speakers still produce much more base than the front ones.!
I can only assume you are using a Sedan.

Power rating is not a correct indication of a speaker's bass performance or even how loud it can go.

ex: Speaker 1 rated at 88db/1W at 50W will go as loud (if neither speaker is mechnically restricted) as Speaker 2 rated at 85db/1W at 100W.

What IS important is which speaker you prefer.
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There are other 4" compoenents (Hertz/Kicker/MB Quart/Rainbow/DLS/etc..) I would choose the front speakers first.

Thanks navinji.
4" Components.
Kicker has low power handling.
MBQ/Rainbow etc are too costly.
DLS 4" Not available in stores

But is it ok to install the speakers on dash board? Or do I need to install on front doors? Which one will sound better?

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The P1222 is a nice sub at 8.5K. FYI, At 5.5K JBL makes the GT4-12. So if the 3K difrence is improtant to you then the GT4-12 might be another option. Also at 13K for a amp the venerable JBL 75.4 could also be considered also the Pio 515 might be available for about 20K. It gives you a 5ch. amp solution but at the cost of lower power.
I dont mind that extra 3K considering that P1222 has more power handling than GT4-12.
JBL75.4 is rated for 104x4 RMS. So if I consider that then i might have to replace the Pioneer 4x9 which is rated for 80W as well. Then again the front speakers. So I think I'll settle for Sony 55x4.
One dealer quoted INR 6000/- for Kicker Solo Baric S12L5 sub rated for 600W. JBL or Kicker? Confused.
Also the brochure for Kicker Amp ZX1000.1 says the alternator of the car should be at least 140A output. Is Alto's alternator this powerful?
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I dont mind that extra 3K considering that P1222 has more power handling than GT4-12.
JBL75.4 is rated for 104x4 RMS. So if I consider that then i might have to replace the Pioneer 4x9 which is rated for 80W as well. Then again the front speakers. So I think I'll settle for Sony 55x4.
One dealer quoted INR 6000/- for Kicker Solo Baric S12L5 sub rated for 600W. JBL or Kicker? Confused.
Also the brochure for Kicker Amp ZX1000.1 says the alternator of the car should be at least 140A output. Is Alto's alternator this powerful?

go for 75.4 anydays......and I think you dont need zx1000.1 for alto....a smaller amp will be fine for you application...if you use a 75.4 for the subs it will more than enough....
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Thanks navinji.
4" Components.


Is Alto's alternator this powerful?
Why not a 5.25' for frnt? Yes you would need a good installer but then Cochin is not so far.

About alternator, no worries my friend, it will take the load. Ask Zak.
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I have a Sony HU with 2 pairs of preamp outs. There is no subout. As of now, I plan to buy components for the front, one 4-channel amp (maybe JBL GTO75.4) & a sub. It's clear that 2 channels of amp will be connected to the left & right sets of components & the other 2 channels bridged to the sub. What's not clear is how the rear right & left input channels would be combined to one mono signal. Does the amp do it automatically or is there a switch? Is it possible that the amp will only use one input channel, thus supplying only half the signal to the sub? In which case do I need to use a Y-connector or splice the RCA cables? The JBL manual on the net doesn't say anything about the inputs. The output section is clearly illustrated though. Thanks in advance.

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no need for nothing...connect the front to ch1, ch2 and the rear to ch3, ch4 the amp will be bridged and it will be getting both the left and right channel so the output will be combined of both the channels....so dont worry to much get it installed..and enjoy music...
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Old 30th May 2007, 17:48   #6015
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That's a relief. Thanks LBM.
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