Go Back   Team-BHP > Under the Hood > In-Car Entertainment


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 27th October 2007, 09:57   #7216
Distinguished - BHPian
 
DerAlte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 8,068
Thanked: 2,866 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by akbaree View Post
I have zeroed in on Eclipse CD7100 and Clarion DXZ775USB. The price of Eclipse HU is 699 USD and Clarion HU is 299 USD
From the experiences on TBHP, one would think Alpine 9887 would be a better bet than these 2.

The major drawback of Eclipse is lack of installed base of HUs in India, and hence lack of service. Clarion is way ahead on that, but service lacks.

At that price point, Alpine would be far better w.r.t. performance and service, and is available in India with b&w.
DerAlte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th October 2007, 11:01   #7217
BHPian
 
akbaree's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 579
Thanked: 43 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DerAlte View Post
At that price point, Alpine would be far better w.r.t. performance and service, and is available in India with b&w.
Thanks DerAlte. Presently, I have Alpine 9881 in my car and I am bored of it now. I have seen some gurus swearing on eclipse and yet some other swearing on Clarion. So I want to try one of these HUs. I want guidance on which of this HU will have better SQ - DXZ775USB or Eclipse CD7100.
akbaree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th October 2007, 12:36   #7218
Team-BHP Support
 
navin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: mumbai
Posts: 21,963
Thanked: 3,504 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by akbaree View Post
I have zeroed in on Eclipse CD7100 and Clarion DXZ775USB.
The price of Eclipse HU is 699 USD and Clarion HU is 299 USD.
If SQ is the only criterion of selction , please advice should I go for DXZ775USB or CD7100.
Quote:
Originally Posted by akbaree View Post
Thanks DerAlte. Presently, I have Alpine 9881 in my car and I am bored of it now. I want guidance on which of this HU will have better SQ - DXZ775USB or Eclipse CD7100.
You cant compare a $700 machine with a $300 one. The Eclipse does ome with a huge reputation and excellent controls and my fav D-A converter using the Delta Sigma algorithim. but would I pay more than twice for this I dont know. Would you?
navin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th October 2007, 18:11   #7219
BHPian
 
nura's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Kolkata
Posts: 581
Thanked: 7 Times
Default

You may also want to compare the Alpine 9887 ($450) + KTX-100EQ IMPRINT Sound Manager ($250) = $700 with the Eclipse ($700) before taking a call on this.
nura is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th October 2007, 18:19   #7220
BHPian
 
akbaree's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 579
Thanked: 43 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by navin View Post
You cant compare a $700 machine with a $300 one. The Eclipse does ome with a huge reputation and excellent controls and my fav D-A converter using the Delta Sigma algorithim. but would I pay more than twice for this I dont know. Would you?
Thanks Navin. I agree that the comparison is not an ideal one. But I thought the eclipse is costlier because of the GPS feature.

How would Clarion DXZ775USB you rate when compared with Alpine 9887. Again only in terms of SQ.
akbaree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th October 2007, 18:21   #7221
BHPian
 
akbaree's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 579
Thanked: 43 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nura View Post
You may also want to compare the Alpine 9887 ($450) + KTX-100EQ IMPRINT Sound Manager ($250) = $700 with the Eclipse ($700) before taking a call on this.
What will be the role of the sound manager? Sorry I am dumb
akbaree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th October 2007, 18:46   #7222
BHPian
 
akbaree's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 579
Thanked: 43 Times
Default FM Sensitivity

I have this question about FM sensitivity. Some HU have excellent radio reception and some have only average reception. In my understanding FM Sensitivity affects the radio reception (but I may be wrong). The FM Sensitivity for a HU is given in dBf. According to Crutchfield the smaller the value, better the ability to catch the signal. If for a HU the dBf value is relatively high, would it be right to assume that by installing a good power antenna the HU's FM reception will be as good as the FM reception of a HU for which the dBf rating is low.
akbaree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th October 2007, 22:35   #7223
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Chennai
Posts: 8
Thanked: 0 Times
Default chennai help

wanna know a good audio system guy in chennai.. cud ya guys help mme out wid tht... pretty new to dese sope would help if da guy cud gimme options and performance comparisons
ssgodspeed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th October 2007, 01:24   #7224
BHPian
 
akbaree's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 579
Thanked: 43 Times
Default

Friends, some changes to the plan. I discovered while reading specs that both Alpine and Clarion HU's available in US are not compatible with European Tuning which essentially means that FM will not work if I source them from US. However the Eclipse HU is available with European Tuning. So now I have two options...

Source Alpine 9887 in Bangalore - Around 22K with B&W
Source Eclipse CD7100 from US - Around 25K without B&W

advice.
akbaree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th October 2007, 10:08   #7225
BHPian
 
nura's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Kolkata
Posts: 581
Thanked: 7 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by akbaree View Post
What will be the role of the sound manager? Sorry I am dumb
Sorry for the late reply. Please follow this link for more information on IMPRINT.
Alpine Electronics of America, Inc. - KTX-100EQ
nura is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th October 2007, 09:26   #7226
Team-BHP Support
 
navin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: mumbai
Posts: 21,963
Thanked: 3,504 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by akbaree View Post
The FM Sensitivity for a HU is given in dBf.
I would compare figures only withing the same brand. the method used to measure this vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. Ifi youa re big FM fan I would consider HUs that can accomodate multiple antenna so you can avoid picket fencing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by akbaree View Post
Friends, some changes to the plan. I discovered while reading specs that both Alpine and Clarion HU's available in US are not compatible with European Tuning which essentially means that FM will not work if I source them from US. However the Eclipse HU is available with European Tuning. So now I have two options...

Source Alpine 9887 in Bangalore - Around 22K with B&W
Source Eclipse CD7100 from US - Around 25K without B&W
do you value B&W?
navin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th October 2007, 13:33   #7227
BHPian
 
akbaree's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 579
Thanked: 43 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by navin View Post
If you are big FM fan I would consider HUs that can accomodate multiple antenna so you can avoid picket fencing.
Navin, you are a pro. I am not sure if I understand this. Please let me know if Eclipse HU will have decent FM reception? It has a declared FM Sensitivity of 15dBf.

Quote:
Originally Posted by navin View Post
do you value B&W?
No. The warranties cover so less and anyways the risk that a good HU will go kaput within 1st yr of it's operation is less and I am okay to take that risk.
akbaree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th October 2007, 15:13   #7228
Team-BHP Support
 
navin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: mumbai
Posts: 21,963
Thanked: 3,504 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by akbaree View Post
Navin, you are a pro. I am not sure if I understand this. Please let me know if Eclipse HU will have decent FM reception?
No. The warranties cover so less and anyways the risk that a good HU will go kaput within 1st yr of it's operation is less and I am okay to take that risk.
I find Pio HUs have the best reception.

You answered your own question. if you dont need the warranty the Eclipse is a HU with a big reputation.
navin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st October 2007, 16:15   #7229
BHPian
 
determinus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Pune
Posts: 276
Thanked: 5 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by akbaree View Post
Source Alpine 9887 in Bangalore - Around 22K with B&W
Source Eclipse CD7100 from US - Around 25K without B&W
Compare apples with apples :-) Alpine 9887 without B&W (wrt India) in the US trades for $300, which is 12k. JFYI.

Another aspect is how much should you "risk" on a component? If all being equal - which arent in this case, then anyone would prefer the smaller amount, right?

Last edited by determinus : 31st October 2007 at 16:19.
determinus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th November 2007, 20:25   #7230
BHPian
 
adityamunshi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Baroda
Posts: 771
Thanked: 6 Times
Default Rear ovals to match Illusion coaxials

I've bought Illusion EL62 coaxials as front speakers. (Thanks to B&T and moralfibre for their help )
I need the gurus to advise me about the rear speakers that'll match the laid back music of the illusions. I want speakers with a good amount of bass and dont like bright shrill sounding speakers.

Here's a few of the options i have

Ground Zero MK 2 ovals
JBL GTO 937
Alpine S-type
Pioneer
Anything else you guys can suggest

TIA
adityamunshi is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
"Cayenne" we "XC-eed" in our "Endeavour" to "Safari"? Taking powerful metal off-road SS-Traveller 4x4 Excursions 55 10th November 2016 22:56
sub enclosure advice from audio gurus clipto333 In-Car Entertainment 22 4th January 2007 11:29
Please Read This Thread *Before* Posting in the "What Car?" Section adya33 What Car? 0 12th July 2006 19:12


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 17:26.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks