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Old 10th December 2007, 12:31   #7381
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ragzy, your post was unreadable and was hence delted in the moderation queue. please post it again. thanks for understanding.
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Old 10th December 2007, 12:35   #7382
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Hi Guys,

Just upgraded my ICE setup by adding:

Sony 4ch amp
Pioneer 12" Woofer
to (existing):
Pioneer 3450 HU (50w x 4)
Pioneer 6x 9 (4 ways)
Pioneer 4 (Front)

Now my HU only has 1 pair of AUX out and amp is a 4ch. Currently the amp is powering only the sub in bridge mode.
Can I split 1 AUX x 2 without compromising on sound quality?
Or I am better off having my HU power the 6x9s
HELP! HELP! - Raghav.
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Old 10th December 2007, 13:05   #7383
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Now my HU only has 1 pair of AUX out and amp is a 4ch. Currently the amp is powering only the sub in bridge mode.
Can I split 1 AUX x 2 without compromising on sound quality?
Or I am better off having my HU power the 6x9s
HELP! HELP! - Raghav.
you can split the AUX out but then how do you fade between the 2 "outputs".
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Old 10th December 2007, 13:32   #7384
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Navin: I think I should be able to control only the sub output by adjusting the input level control on the amp.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 10th December 2007, 14:27   #7385
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25K was your budget for Amp+ speakers right?

work it backwards...
either of the 4 ch. amps will cost you 7K...that leaves 18K for the speakers more than adequate for Illusions or JBL or GZ.
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my budget was 25K for HU+amp+speakers
But what the hell ! i think im in for a budget increase again!
sometimes i feel the faster i install my system the better! otherwise TBHP will make me start taking out a LOAN!

Btw since i import stuff from china through an agent and was speakeing to him , i found out he imports audio as well and seems like he can get me the KAZ 8401 and the Pio 5950 for a total of a mindblowing 10,400 rs( grey of course)
if so i think i might be able to buy illusion and ground zero (B&W of course) after all

Raghuji
hmm i did read the "sticky" ,
at that time i thought i would be strong and stand my ground and no one would convince me otherwise to increase budget
but B&T+Gunbir+Navinji+all others including you = $$$$
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Old 10th December 2007, 23:31   #7386
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This made me change my avatar back to 'Hanging Yeti'

Ha.. Ha... Very Very True!!! Sorry Mods, I know this is off But really...
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Old 11th December 2007, 09:39   #7387
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my budget was 25K for HU+amp+speakers

he can get me the KAZ 8401 and the Pio 5950 for a total of a mindblowing 10,400 rs( grey of course)
if so i think i might be able to buy illusion and ground zero
so for 18K you needed HU+ speaker...hmm say you get a basic 3 preout HU for 8K that leaves 10K for speakers which means you could get EL 6.1 in the front with JBL 937 in the rear even without you agent's help. :-)

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Navin: I think I should be able to control only the sub output by adjusting the input level control on the amp. .
you could but every time you want to change the sub level you'd have to go back to the amp. if that is ok with you then by all means.
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Old 11th December 2007, 12:10   #7388
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Post Swift subwoofer options

Hi gurus,

I have a Pio HU/CD changer along with JBL GTO at rear and Components at front. Though am very happy with the sound the itch for better bass is getting too much to resist. I listen mostly to rock music and the FM.

I figured out that its best to have a neat enclosure done in the boot for the sub.. for best results. The issue is that i need the boot space also for my trips and wouldn want to look at the option of a roof rack

So please guide me to better options for Sub mounting like:

1) Under seat (i really dont mind having 1 each under the front seats)
2) Rear MDF plank, will it accommodate a smaller sub?
3) Other options or positions which can be explored, without hampering the internal aesthetics and space too much?

Also what would be the ideal config of sub speaker plus amps for your suggestions, approx cost?

Thanks in advance,
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Old 11th December 2007, 12:22   #7389
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Can you do away with the spare wheel? If yes then you can put a sub in the Spare wheel well like done in this Santro:

Sub woofers in the spare wheel well.

The thread has all the details

EDIT: Just checked that it has been done with spare wheel but not sure if same can be done in Swift as I belive the wheel is upside down in Santro install

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Old 11th December 2007, 12:30   #7390
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okaaaaaaayyyy i need to check, my spare wheel anyway cannot be bolted down due to the wider tyre, let me see if it will go in ulta then i can try exploring. Dont remember where the jack unit resides down below.

But i chimply love the stealth install !!

and i cannot do without spare wheel.

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Old 11th December 2007, 12:49   #7391
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1) Under seat (i really dont mind having 1 each under the front seats)
2) Rear MDF plank, will it accommodate a smaller sub?
3) Other options or positions which can be explored, without hampering the internal aesthetics and space too much?
since your music is mostly rock a pair of 8" woofers in MDF plank can work. Under seat subs are not very good and mostof them provide only one note bass. I would try and use a combo sub as below...
2 8" in the MDF tray + 1 10-12" in a spare wheel sub...now take a good 4ch amp like the famed but discontinued JBL 75.4 amp use 2 channels for the 2 8" and bridge the other 2 for the spare wheel sub. LPF the spare wheel sub at say 60Hz and the 8" subs at 100Hz.
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Old 11th December 2007, 13:13   #7392
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Thanks Navin.

mdf will it hold 2*8 inch and 2 ovals? am not sure.

If i remove the ovals from rear how will my rear sound stage sound? or should i plonk another pair in the rear door pads and chuck the ovals from rear?
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mdf will it hold 2*8 inch and 2 ovals? am not sure.
no if you have a pair of 6x9 in the rear then see if a 10" will fit between them. givne that you cant use a box this might be your best bet for low bass.

if you do that (10" in shelf) put cover the basket of the 6x9s with open cell foam. you'll have to repeat this "foaming" every few years as the foam does deteriorate but it's the best solution for now.
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Old 11th December 2007, 13:26   #7394
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wokie i shall measure the locations, to see whats the best i can plonk in.

meanwhile if you find any more/better options do share
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Old 11th December 2007, 13:36   #7395
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I doubt if the MDF tray in a Swift will hold a 10inch Infact even 8 inch is doubtfull as the space betwenn rear seats & door is very narrow. Somebody correct me if Iam wrong.

Jaggu I think If you can accomdate one sub on MDF & it still has space for 6X9s then its fine else fit only the sub & get Coax or comps at rear doors(Not Boot Door).

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