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Old 17th July 2008, 14:15   #8401
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Oh I was thinking about the plain vanilla mesh grills from the past. These new fangled grills look more like hub caps than speaker grills and do not protect the cone from smaller objects or prying fingers.
Yes.Problem is now my mind is dissolved in fiberglass resin.I had never worked with fiberglass.Its capability is making me think about such ideas.So many ideas-solutions are floating in my mind don't know were will i land finally.
Caught in fiberglass mania
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Old 17th July 2008, 14:39   #8402
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@deralte
Would the boot side installation be less boomy than the SWW? I thought both would have a similar amount of enclosure space. If boot side is less boomy, I should go for it.

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The boot side box would be a sealed box, which is less boomy as compared to IB installs, like the SWW, seat-back and parcel-tray installs.
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Hi All,

I am going to get deliver the car by next week end.
I have planned the Audio Setup though people are against Sony HU here.
I too have some dilemma on HU.
Previously I was looking for JVC EXAD 800.
But Now this is the setup in my mind right now.

CD Unit : SONY CDX-GT470US - 4700

Front Components (Stock Place in Front Doors) - JBL: GTO-607C or GT5-650C - 3800
Rear Co-Axials (Stock Place in Rear Doors) - JBL-GTO-637 or GT5-652 - 1800

Please suggest.

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Old 18th July 2008, 08:56   #8405
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For the HU, I would recommend EXAD over Sony.

As far as the speakers are concerned, I suggest you listen to a few brands before to finalize.

Also, please mention your budget.
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Old 18th July 2008, 09:05   #8406
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Budget is around 15K.
No need for Amp and woofers.
I can strech if i go for JVC EXAD 800 to 30K.
Before i planned to get it from Singapore or malaysia.
But it all went vain.couldn't able to find 800.
So changed my mind to spend those amount to Apple Iphone
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Old 18th July 2008, 14:31   #8407
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Hi gurus,
A friend of mine is getting a very lucrative deal on Panasonic HU and Amp are they worth the money spent. The guy can go for other stuff too is Panasonic is as pathetic as Sony!!
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Old 18th July 2008, 16:32   #8408
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I have a Palio and want to get it ICE'd soon.
But I do not want any alteration to the parcel tray for the speakers. So I amthinking to install the better speakers on the front door panels. I heard that the front door can accomodate 6.5" without any alterations.

Are there any 6.5" speakers available in the market which give out the sound quality similar to the 6x9? what is the cost of these?
Please suggest.
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Old 18th July 2008, 18:22   #8409
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I have somehow picked up a kind of a festish to put the sub in the SWW. Allow me one last (hopefully) question about SWW. I noticed in my NHC, the boot-board rests on the tyre, and the tyre rests on the body flat. So if I install the sub on an mdf plank, the mdf plank would rest on the tyre creating a closed space.

Ofcourse when the sub is in action some amount of air may still be pushed between the wheel and the plank - so do you think I can treat this as an enclosed install and not an ib install.

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Old 18th July 2008, 23:59   #8410
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Yes.Problem is now my mind is dissolved in fiberglass resin.Caught in fiberglass mania
Just becuase you got a hammer not everything is a nail.

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A friend of mine is getting a very lucrative deal on Panasonic HU and Amp are they worth the money spent.
They are quite good. Sam Kapasi has/had a Panny HU.

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I noticed in my NHC, the boot-board rests on the tyre, and the tyre rests on the body flat. So if I install the sub on an mdf plank, the mdf plank would rest on the tyre creating a closed space.

Ofcourse when the sub is in action some amount of air may still be pushed between the wheel and the plank - so do you think I can treat this as an enclosed install and not an ib install.
If you get air leaking out of the side of the board on which the sub is installed it would be an OB install not IB install in which case you will not get any where as much bass as you are expecting.
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... Are there any 6.5" speakers available in the market which give out the sound quality similar to the 6x9? ...
6.5" round speakers, in general, cannot rival 6x9s' bass delivery. 8"ers can, some 6.5" 'subs' may, but then price and other factors make them impractical. 6x9s are generally a jugaad substitute for a sub. A sub is irreplaceable if you really want the lows.

At the moment you are looking at it subjectively. Try and hook up with some TBHPians in Pune and listen to the installs that don't have 6x9 - they may have a sub but the sub volume can be reduced for you to get a feel of what a good 6.5" speaker can do.
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I have somehow picked up a kind of a fetish to put the sub in the SWW. ... So if I install the sub on an mdf plank, the mdf plank would rest on the tyre creating a closed space.
Not really. Neither is the MDF's weight enough to ensure a tight seal, nor is the side of the tyre a smooth surface (look closely).
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... If you get air leaking out of the side of the board on which the sub is installed it would be an OB install not IB install in which case you will not get any where as much bass as you are expecting.
Enclosed install (sealed) it is definitely not. As Navin has pointed out, this would be an Open Baffle install. In an infinite baffle, the rear wave has practically no chance of meeting the front wave. Though the output may not be comparable to a conventional sealed or ported box, it will not be really disappointing if you:
1. Seal the edges of the board as well as you can
2. Choose a sensitive sub that really goes low and loud (no, forget shallow subs)
3. Drive it with a good mono

Come to think of it, there is another solution: Fiberglass sealed 'box' under the board (the boot cover will be the baffle; look at how @mohang_j is building his sub box for the boot side). Lay a felt layer over whatever empty space there is in and around the tyre, all the way to the boot sides. Lay the FG in situ over the felt. Once the FG is set, take it out and screw it to the MDF with good sealing. Once you finish the box, join a gym to tone up your muscles: you will need a lot of strength to lift the box to remove the spare tyre. Or maybe you can relocate the spare tyre to the boot side and use all the freed up volume for the sub box.

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@Ketchup. Keep the SWW install for your next vehicle/hatchback. Go for a good sealed box setup for your current car, the NHC.
Believe me, you won't regret.
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@deralte
I have somehow picked up a kind of a festish to put the sub in the SWW. Allow me one last (hopefully) question about SWW. I noticed in my NHC, the boot-board rests on the tyre, and the tyre rests on the body flat. So if I install the sub on an mdf plank, the mdf plank would rest on the tyre creating a closed space.
Giri
I have some doubt on SWW.when dump luggage in the boot how will sub perform? should we leave enough space for the sub while dumping the luggage.In that case what are we saving.?
(Last few days i have only questions in my mind)
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@Ketchup. Keep the SWW install for your next vehicle/hatchback. Go for a good sealed box setup for your current car, the NHC.
I think so too. I don't think a SWWS install will sound good enough in a "booted" car.

In an NHC, I really don't think a box of 1 cu.ft. to 1.2 cu.ft. will take up a whole lot of space.

You'll get better results per-rupee-spent with a ported box or a sealed box.
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Which speaker is best suited for Instrumental music, like of Violin and Piano.
And Which Speaker is best suited for Vocal.
Here i didn't meant brand, I wanted to know what type of speakers, and sizes.
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