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Old 9th August 2008, 16:15   #8521
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Oops! Sorry. I mistook and thought you were mentioning in general.
I can offer you my Infinity sub for 20k, interested?
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Old 9th August 2008, 19:03   #8522
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@Nishantgandhi I got the GTO1264 for Rs 2700 (grey), based on all my evaluation, it seemed to be the best VFM - even at MRP. I am in the process of building a custom enclosure, and hope to install it next week - will post review.

Sorry about the misinformation reg CS1204 but I knew it was also known by a GT name.
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@Nishantgandhi I got the GTO1264 for Rs 2700 (grey), based on all my evaluation, it seemed to be the best VFM - even at MRP. I am in the process of building a custom enclosure, and hope to install it next week - will post review.

Sorry about the misinformation reg CS1204 but I knew it was also known by a GT name.
WOW! Isnt that like TOO cheap for the new GTO series? I thought even the GT5 retails for a higher price in grey? Maybe Sam can shed more light on this?
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yep thats really a good bargain
we get the GT5 12 incher for 2500 grey . i would assume the GTO would easily be above 3500
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yep thats really a good bargain
we get the GT5 12 incher for 2500 grey . i would assume the GTO would easily be above 3500
Where would that be Ali? Can you tell me the shop? Its a good bargain at that price for sure!
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Where would that be Ali? Can you tell me the shop? Its a good bargain at that price for sure!
have Pm'ed You about shop details
but i guess FM drive would charge a reasonable amount near that figure too
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A freind need to put component speakers in wagon r.
Does JBL makes 4 " components? If yes than what is the price for it.
Also has anybody tried 5 " inches component in the stock location?
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i actaully have access to a lot of aluminium sections as well.
last week i sat down and thought about the feasibility of constructing an all aluminium bass tube ( sealed )- NO
(nobody has one in the whole market!)
why not use a cast iron soil pipe of the dia you need. these pipes have a collar at one end which can be used to mount the woofer baffle.
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No the CS1204 is the same as the GT4 woofer. The GT5 is a different platfrom.
Hi Sam / Naveen,

Need some help. I drive around quite a bit in the recent hyderabad monsoon and one day my GTO 301.1 monoblock statred giving me trouble..It is not taking the signals from the HU but instead drumming the Subwoofer on its own. And the cone excursion (GTO 1202D) is in INCHES...so I am not sure if the sub us allright either.

While drumming the Sub, that the GTO is also not happy but instead becomes hot enough for me to burn my hand.

There was some moisture (not like a flood or something..to be clear damp carpet but not even a mm of water) below the amp (the amp is below the front seat)..maybe the recent carpet cleaning by Maruti is the culprit for the leak (god knows if they forgot to replace / reinstate some plug somewhere.

My plan is -
A. Get the Baleno to Maruti and find out the reason for leak (no water found around door pads / beading / sills or in the nearby carpet area)
B. Waterproof my car (dont know how??)
C. Get the GTO / Sub combination fixed (How??) or replace them
D. Should I move the amps to behind the boot seat..I mean I am really troubled

Any help / suggestions and also names of people who will do a decent job in hyderabad are appreciated. I need someone nice who can repair/replace the amp and sub as well as put the carpet back nicely at the same time.

I used to love my ICE (Sam has seen it) and enjoyed it for 3 years..................Not being able to use it anymore is making me feel very odd!!
There is the CS50.4 that gives some respite with the 4 JBL speakers..but where is the Bass?

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Old 13th August 2008, 00:34   #8530
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why not use a cast iron soil pipe of the dia you need. these pipes have a collar at one end which can be used to mount the woofer baffle.

thats a lovely idea too.
cast iron pipes are cheap too.
however i have never seen one with a collar that is good enough to mount a speaker. ( i have only seen collars with 5 mm thickness)
can you explain the soil pipes you are speaking of

welding new collars with cast iron maybe be problematic.
How about an SS tube 3 mm thick?

Also navinji do you think these materials would make a good enclosure "soundwise" i mean all other enclosures we talk about are MDF.
would Steel or cast iron be worse better or same ?

also guys the CS1004T is still available na?
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instead drumming the Subwoofer on its own. And the cone excursion (GTO 1202D) is in INCHES...so I am not sure if the sub us allright either.
Ok you seem to have a problem. I hope the sub is not damaged but do noy play the amp disconnect it asap.

1. take out the amp and dry it. let it dry naturally do not use a hair dryer etc. Sam might know of a good reliable shop in Hyd that can help.
2. I have never liked the idea of keeping the amp under the car seat using the back of the rear seat is a nicer idea.

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thats a lovely idea too.
cast iron pipes are cheap too.
however i have never seen one with a collar that is good enough to mount a speaker. ( i have only seen collars with 5 mm thickness)
can you explain the soil pipes you are speaking of
The ones I have seen are Class C Cast Iron pipes with a collar that is about 6mm thick. Now 6mm of Cast iron is pretty strong not like 6mm of MDF.

You can cut a baffle of Wood or any stiff non resonant material (the speaker my friend built using Soil pipe used a granite baffle) and use a similar methond to close the other end.

Cut baffle so that the fit is very tight and stick the baffle inside the collar and seal it with Bondo (the stuff they use to smooth car panels - my garage guy callis it "car-page" or something like that).

Cast iron is pretty stiff and non resonant. If you are willing to experiment with damping and resonance then even a PVC pipe will do. Sigfried Linkwitz uses PVC pipes on one of his smaller speakers.
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Hi all gurus...

Have an Alto since Nov 07 and been using it a lil roughly in Mumbai....damn the potholes and the black-yellows....really damn them all...

But going for a complete slick-up of the car with all mumbai trademark dents removed and also thinking of an ICE install.

At the outset....need a simple ICE....am a guy who wud like decent music playing to keep mind off the damn things mentioned above. Should not sound like a blasphemy for all the sound enthu ppl out here...

My profile: budget 10k MAX MAX :P
Driving single/couple....and some occasional trips out of mumbai
no great fan of western music...but love my music to have its bass and beats...even the bollywood variety
Wud play classical / masters instrumental hits sometimes....clear sound will be appreciated.
Plan to burn my own MP3 CDs on my lappy...shud carry abt 75 tracks a piece.
...and yeah...young at heart.....no need for crying songs...

MUMBAI SPECIFIC----
Also, shud I go to my dealer Sai Service Lower Parel or some other fellow shud do a better job like Koliwada etc.?????
There.... help with advice....
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The ones I have seen are Class C Cast Iron pipes with a collar that is about 6mm thick. Now 6mm of Cast iron is pretty strong not like 6mm of MDF.

Cast iron is pretty stiff and non resonant. If you are willing to experiment with damping and resonance then even a PVC pipe will do. Sigfried Linkwitz uses PVC pipes on one of his smaller speakers.
But doesn't any Iron based Enclosure interfere with the magnetic field of Subwoofer? Dosn't it deteriorate the SQ or distort.
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my GTO 301.1 monoblock statred giving me trouble..It is not taking the signals from the HU but instead drumming the Subwoofer on its own. And the cone excursion (GTO 1202D) is in INCHES...so I am not sure if the sub us allright either.

While drumming the Sub, that the GTO is also not happy but instead becomes hot enough for me to burn my hand.
Hello Anupam,

What you are talking about is commonly referred to as motorboating.

Your amplifier is kaput and I would not advise you switch it on anymore. Send it in for repair immediately. I suspect your subwoofer is OK.
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My profile: budget 10k MAX MAX :P...
With a 10K budget spend half on a HU and half on 4 coax speakers.

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But doesn't any Iron based Enclosure interfere with the magnetic field of Subwoofer? Dosn't it deteriorate the SQ or distort.
No it wont the magnetic field of a loudspeaker magnet is concentrated in the voice coil gap and there is little stray field (enough to disturb CRTs but not much more).
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