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Old 2nd January 2012, 12:00   #11281
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It's most of the time just going to be two passengers so was thinking of only front components for the time being, but had doubts about powering it only through the HU (confusion courtesy - Team Bhp ) , so was thinking should i then go in for an amp also

Have you decided on the equipment?
more you research and know about ICE, more hungry for SQ you get .

you may start with only the front components and HU and perform incremental upgrades as you feel comfortable/required in the future.

sent you a PM about what i am going with for my setup.
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Mates,

I have booked the new City facelift's Corporate Edition on the 29th, and will be getting my car in mid-February. I intend to spend most of January 2012 researching and finalising a good set of sound options for my car, since it won't come with either a HU or speakers (though I am told that Honda provides complete wiring for getting both fitted).


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Hi RavenAvi, I am no expert in audio department but I just want to share something with you. The speakers which comes as stock with Honda City are fantastic. When you sit inside a Honda City with stock speakers you actually feel like it has subwoofer. The bass is very nice even with stock speakers.

I request you to find out the make of stock speakers and get those in your car (I guess they are from alpine, not sure though).

Do test the stock system in any i-VTEC.
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Rear Speakers for Etios Liva.

I am planning to rear speakers on my Liva and the options for me are as follows
Boston - 3200Rs
Polk Audio - 4200Rs
Kicker - 4800Rs

All the above speakers are oval 6x9 speakers.Sorry I dont have the model numbers but if anyone can let me know what will be the best to choose from above.I just want my rear speakers to have a little bass nothing more i require other than that.I already have a HeadUnit = Alpine CDE-121E.
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Hi mate,

Between the easily available options, I would urge that you listen to Rockford Punch series. I found them to be very neutral, less "brighter" than the JBL or Infinity component systems. I haven't heard MTX, so can't really comment on them.

Hope that helps.
Hey blackfire, thanks for replying. I went to my local guy and he gave me a demo of the RF Punch he has fitted in another car. I liked the sound, specially the nice clarity at low volumes. Like you said, pretty neutral and not too much boomy or overtly loud.

Heard the MTX Thunder 6000 as well, and I must say I am impressed by it's sound. They sounded much better than the Boston comps and the RF Punch comps.

He also offered a new choice - Ultimate 6x9 3-way co-axials (T2-6931). Boy, are those speakers heavy or what! Each one of them must weigh a TON! And the sound they reproduced at both low volumes and high was absolutely superb. I could hear each guitar string thrumming at volume level set at "5", and at "35" it was shaking the Innova! (in which it was fitted). Needless to say, we didn't go more than that.

He also showed me the amp for my City - JBL GT5-S644. Pretty neat and also plenty of space to handle upto 800W of power.

Will sit down with him and see what else I can get from him in the coming days. Will finalise my equipment by around 20th of January so that I can order the stuff from him. Delivery time is quoted as 15 days.

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Hi RavenAvi, I am no expert in audio department but I just want to share something with you. The speakers which comes as stock with Honda City are fantastic. When you sit inside a Honda City with stock speakers you actually feel like it has subwoofer. The bass is very nice even with stock speakers.

I request you to find out the make of stock speakers and get those in your car (I guess they are from alpine, not sure though).

Do test the stock system in any i-VTEC.
I read about this in an ownership thread, BV. Unfortunately the Honda dealer doesn't have them with him and is prepared to source the Alpine set from outside. At the price they quoted me (15K for a set of 2 speakers + tweeters), I felt it's better I do my own setup. I was keen on Alpine as well (Focal or Polk Audio is my second choice), but at that atrocious pricing it's better to go outside for shopping.

My budget is 50K max, and I feel I can get a much better sounding setup by myself than what the dealer will provide to me.
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Mates,

I have booked the new City facelift's Corporate Edition on the 29th, and will be getting my car in mid-February. I intend to spend most of January 2012 researching and finalising a good set of sound options for my car, since it won't come with either a HU or speakers (though I am told that Honda provides complete wiring for getting both fitted).

I am apprehensive that the local guys can't get a sub fitted properly.
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Hey blackfire, thanks for replying. I went to my local guy and he gave me a demo of the RF Punch he has fitted in another car. I liked the sound, specially the nice clarity at low volumes. Like you said, pretty neutral and not too much boomy or overtly loud.

Heard the MTX Thunder 6000 as well, and I must say I am impressed by it's sound. They sounded much better than the Boston comps and the RF Punch comps.

He also offered a new choice - Ultimate 6x9 3-way co-axials (T2-6931). Boy, are those speakers heavy or what! Each one of them must weigh a TON! And the sound they reproduced at both low volumes and high was absolutely superb. I could hear each guitar string thrumming at volume level set at "5", and at "35" it was shaking the Innova! (in which it was fitted). Needless to say, we didn't go more than that.

He also showed me the amp for my City - JBL GT5-S644. Pretty neat and also plenty of space to handle upto 800W of power.
RAvenAvi - Do a step by step upgrade. Take your music and go to the Honda dealer and listen to the music on a top end honda city / any other car which has a factory fit system. If you like it 60%, You can go ahead with them because Dynamat damping will increase the quality to 90% easily.

If you are not satisfied with the install, MTX Thunder / Ultimate with Dynamat damping will do the trick.

Regarding the superstition w.r.t Woofer install, It is a no brainer. You get Wiring kits for Amps and its a straightforward connection and heck could do it even as a DIY job. If you are concerned about Sub-Box to Sub installation, go in for the factory fit box modesl (Pioneer TS Series or JBL series).
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I am glad you could find my suggestion helpful. By the way, is the Ultimate that you are refering to, a series from DLS? What is the price you have been quoted for these? And while at it, if this accessories guy has Ultimate from DLS, why not ask him if he can get you an audition for the DLS range of components.

The JBL amplifier you are considering is pretty decent & quite powerful for the price point. However, your budget is really quite a lot & I am pretty sure that you may be able to squeeze in a better amplifier. As someone else suggested, I would recommend doing the install in parts. Keep the first priority as a set of components for the front, an amplifier & a subwoofer for the first step. Listen to the system for a while & develop a need for damping & only then go for damping wherever required.

However, if the rear bench is also gonna be used frequently, then chuck the subwoofer for now & I would suggest going in for a pair of components for the front & some good coaxials (6*9) for the rear along with a 4 channel amplifier.

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Hey blackfire, thanks for replying. I went to my local guy and he gave me a demo of the RF Punch he has fitted in another car. I liked the sound, specially the nice clarity at low volumes. Like you said, pretty neutral and not too much boomy or overtly loud.

Heard the MTX Thunder 6000 as well, and I must say I am impressed by it's sound. They sounded much better than the Boston comps and the RF Punch comps.

He also offered a new choice - Ultimate 6x9 3-way co-axials (T2-6931). Boy, are those speakers heavy or what! Each one of them must weigh a TON! And the sound they reproduced at both low volumes and high was absolutely superb. I could hear each guitar string thrumming at volume level set at "5", and at "35" it was shaking the Innova! (in which it was fitted). Needless to say, we didn't go more than that.

He also showed me the amp for my City - JBL GT5-S644. Pretty neat and also plenty of space to handle upto 800W of power.

Will sit down with him and see what else I can get from him in the coming days. Will finalise my equipment by around 20th of January so that I can order the stuff from him. Delivery time is quoted as 15 days.

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Friends- Need your help in selecting a basic head unit with bluetooth for swift vdi (old version). While browsing, i came across 2 entry level units-

Pioneer 7350BT and Sony MEX-BT3950U
I have got quotes of 9999/- for Pioneer and 8000/- for Sony from Reliance Autozone and Ebay respectively.

Are these the only ones in my budget (max 10-11k for unit), or is there anything else that i need to look at? Awaiting your feedback.

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Friends- Need your help in selecting a basic head unit with bluetooth for swift vdi (old version). While browsing, i came across 2 entry level units-

Pioneer 7350BT and Sony MEX-BT3950U
I have got quotes of 9999/- for Pioneer and 8000/- for Sony from Reliance Autozone and Ebay respectively.

Are these the only ones in my budget (max 10-11k for unit), or is there anything else that i need to look at? Awaiting your feedback.
Look at the JVC 826 or Kenwood 546BT.
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Look at the JVC 826 or Kenwood 546BT.
Thanks Navin, got the JVC 728BT installed. Not sure if feature wise if i have missed anything major compared to JVC 826BT.
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RAvenAvi - Do a step by step upgrade. Take your music and go to the Honda dealer and listen to the music on a top end honda city / any other car which has a factory fit system. If you like it 60%, You can go ahead with them because Dynamat damping will increase the quality to 90% easily.

If you are not satisfied with the install, MTX Thunder / Ultimate with Dynamat damping will do the trick.

Regarding the superstition w.r.t Woofer install, It is a no brainer. You get Wiring kits for Amps and its a straightforward connection and heck could do it even as a DIY job. If you are concerned about Sub-Box to Sub installation, go in for the factory fit box modesl (Pioneer TS Series or JBL series).
Thanks for replying, scorpiobharath. I took my USB with me when I went to check out the new facelift. Disappointed to report that the sound quality of the OEM speakers remains the same as the old City - very neutral, not too bright, nor too clear. And it cracks at high volume levels!

My local guy is a bit apprehensive about damping work. Looks like I have to get it done outside at a later date.

Will definitely add a sub at a later date, preferably an enclosed one. Once I get the amp set up, it should be easy. Maybe I can do it myself.


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I am glad you could find my suggestion helpful. By the way, is the Ultimate that you are refering to, a series from DLS? What is the price you have been quoted for these? And while at it, if this accessories guy has Ultimate from DLS, why not ask him if he can get you an audition for the DLS range of components.

The JBL amplifier you are considering is pretty decent & quite powerful for the price point. However, your budget is really quite a lot & I am pretty sure that you may be able to squeeze in a better amplifier. As someone else suggested, I would recommend doing the install in parts. Keep the first priority as a set of components for the front, an amplifier & a subwoofer for the first step. Listen to the system for a while & develop a need for damping & only then go for damping wherever required.

However, if the rear bench is also gonna be used frequently, then chuck the subwoofer for now & I would suggest going in for a pair of components for the front & some good coaxials (6*9) for the rear along with a 4 channel amplifier.
Nope, mate. This Ultimate brand is a Canadian company, specialising in car speakers. This is their site -

Ultimate Sound: Car Audio

His Ultimate rec:-

Car Audio Advice from the Audio Gurus: Use "Search thread" before posting a new Q!-20120102-14.39.23_2.jpg

The other amps he has with him aren't as good as the JBL. So I am thinking of finalising the S644. I intend to fix the HU, amp and components first, and see how the sound pans out. Then adding the 6x9s for the rear. Damping (and a possible sub) to come later.

The Amp:-

Car Audio Advice from the Audio Gurus: Use "Search thread" before posting a new Q!-20120102-14.45.39_2.jpg

My guy got in touch with the Focal guy yesterday (finally!). The Focal PS 165 is available at 10,000/-, and would make a great choice for front components. Is the price okay? I intend to go ahead with it.

For the rears, I am keen on the JBL GTO 6x9ers. RMS is at 100W and should suffice for rear passengers, and the price quoted is 4,500/-.

The whole setup (including the HU) should cost me around 42K. Not bad, since the remaining 8K can be utilised by me to get quality Art Leather dual-tone seat covers from Autoform.

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What is the price of this HU ?


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Thanks Navin, got the JVC 728BT installed. Not sure if feature wise if i have missed anything major compared to JVC 826BT.
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What is the price of this HU ?
8k with bill and 2 years warranty.
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My guy got in touch with the Focal guy yesterday (finally!). The Focal PS 165 is available at 10,000/-, and would make a great choice for front components. Is the price okay? I intend to go ahead with it.
The minimum price for this EISA award winner comp is $399 in US.
I would really be surprised if you can grab them here at 10k?
Would you mind sharing your Focal Man's contact details with us?
Thanks in advance !
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The minimum price for this EISA award winner comp is $399 in US.
I would really be surprised if you can grab them here at 10k?
Would you mind sharing your Focal Man's contact details with us?
Thanks in advance !
I don't know about Focal pricing, my friend. Notice the question at the end of my sentence? And I surely didn't know it costs 399 dollars in the US!

And now you have planted the seed of doubt in me!

Me and my local guy live in Jagdalpur, Chhattisgarh. And the Focal guy lives in Raipur, Chhattisgarh. Both cities are 300 kms apart. My local guy has asked him to send over the Focal catalog, which should be here in a day or two. That should be a way of identifying if its really legit or fakes.

I don't know who he is, and neither does my local guy. He tracked him down through contacts of contacts. Let us see if he's really legit. (damn! Now I hope he turns out to be legit!)
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And now you have planted the seed of doubt in me!
Apologies if I've spoiled the party!
I just wanted to make you congizant of the US pricing so that you are more careful while dealing with the guy.
$399 is MRP and most of the sellers including Amazon are selling it almost at MRP but that could be due to the award it has won at EISA list.
I too wish somehow your seller is not aware of this or somehow he's managed legitimate speakers at this attractive pricing..

BTW - What was the final quote given for Ultimate 6x9 3-way co-axials (T2-6931) by your dealer?

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