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Old 16th January 2013, 18:21   #11941
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Given your taste in music and if the sound of Cerwin Vega of today is similar to what they produced 10-20 years ago ...
Unfortunately they aren't (no better than Pio or JVC). Some dealers manage to push it if the buyer doesn't know - they make it sound esoteric, and quote a higher price. The margin is better than Pio or Sony, but not brand recognition.
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Old 17th January 2013, 15:21   #11942
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Our Indigo XL Grand Dicor came with Nippon DVD Player as OE.
There is an Aux Vin Cable behind the player (not connector at the back of the player).
I want to know whether I can use this cable to connect my Phone or any other Player to the existing speakers.
To put it more simple, Can I use "3.5mm Male Jack on Both Sides Cable" to hear the songs on my Phone over the speakers of the car through the Aux Vin Cable Connector present in the bundle of Nippon DVD Player which came as OE with the car?
Update on my query--I tried connecting a Aux In Cable in my EP Jack of Sony Xperia X10 and the Aux Vin Port of Nippon Car Player.
But I was unable to hear the song playing on my phone over the car speakers.
Then I connected the cable to the Aux In Port of OE Nippon Player in our Xylo E8 ABS. And voila, I was able to hear the song played on my phone over the car speakers.

Then I understood that the Aux Vin Port in Indigo is Aux Video In and not Aux-in.

Thanks for help= Swarnava, DerAlte, and SunnyBoi.
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Need urgent suggestion guys.
I drive an esteem '07 Lxi.
My current setup is:
HU : Pioneer 3150 UB : (NO HPF LPF Settings)
Front: JBL Cs4 (4" coaxial)
Rear: Pioneer 6x9s (Parcel tray, plastic spacers)

No amp & sub.

Can you please suggest what can i do @ less than 7-8K for a better sound experience?
I prefer warm sound with good mids & low but audible lower frequencies.

Should i go with a 4 channel amp + HPF for front speakers & LPF for rear ?

OR

A 2 channel amp + sealed JBL sub ?
I am not sure whether a sub in the boot will have prominent effect with a huge cng cylinder in between.

Pls suggest. I am open to changing speakers as well .

I know that the budget is too low to achieve anything significant but i need atleast a minor improvement
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Old 19th January 2013, 10:33   #11944
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I drive an esteem '07 Lxi.
HU : Pioneer 3150 UB : (NO HPF LPF Settings)
Front: JBL Cs4 (4" coaxial)
Rear: Pioneer 6x9s (Parcel tray, plastic spacers)
Can you please suggest what can i do @ less than 7-8K for a better sound experience?
I prefer warm sound with good mids & low but audible lower frequencies.
Should i go with a 4 channel amp + HPF for front speakers & LPF for rear ?

OR

A 2 channel amp + sealed JBL sub ?
I am not sure whether a sub in the boot will have prominent effect with a huge cng cylinder in between.
A 2 ch. amp (4-5K) and a good sealed sub (6-7K) will cost you around 10-12K (hopefuly the wires and install will be free). I dont know if the 3150 has a pre out for the subwoofer but if it does not then controlling the subwoofer will mean that the subwoofer has to connected the rear RCA out and it's level will related to the rear (6x9) speaker levels.

If the 3150 has a subwoofer out then the 2 ch. amp + sub is a good way to get the most bang for your buck if you can indeed stretch to 10-12K.

If this is not possible then a 4 ch. amp can be your best bet. I would run a HPF at 100hz or so for the front but let the rear run fullrange.
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Old 19th January 2013, 17:29   #11945
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I posted this a while ago but got no response anyway here goes once more:
I've got a wagon r with the current setup:
basic pioneer single din HU
JBL gto949
and some basic jbl 4 inch comps in front
I want to slightly upgrade this and so I'd like to know:
which 4inch components are recommended
and also which 4ch. amp would I want?
now that I will be adding some better front speakers to take care of the flat bass allergic ones I have currently, and also be adding some scosche wiring and an amp to drive the speakers, will I also have to get a better HU? Or does the addition of an amp render the changes in sound quality moot?
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Old 19th January 2013, 19:30   #11946
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... wagon r with the current setup:
basic pioneer single din HU
JBL gto949
and some basic jbl 4 inch comps in front
I want to slightly upgrade this and so I'd like to know:
which 4inch components are recommended ...
You would probably have JBL 4" coaxials in front now. You would be out of luck, since there are no 4" components in the market (in India). The new WagonR has 6.5" OE location in doors, and Santro is the only one left which needs 4".

* You could search for 4" Infinity or Polk components, but I doubt if you would find any readily

* You could check if the doorpads of the new WagonR will fit your car. If so, you could try 6.5" components in the doors

* Or, think of FG pods to house 6.5" midbass on the current door pads; tweeters on A-pillar base or sail panel (IIRC WagonR has glass there). You will need to cut a hole in the doorpads to use the door cavity volume behind the mid-bass

* Yes, an amp would make some difference - but expect that only in the 949s currently. The 4" CS4 coaxes wouldn't really benefit by it - too small for any significant bass

* You will need a different HU only if you want to add a separately controlled (for tuning the system) subwoofer, and the current HU has only 1 Pre-out
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You would probably have JBL 4" coaxials in front now. You would be out of luck, since there are no 4" components in the market (in India). The new WagonR has 6.5" OE location in doors, and Santro is the only one left which needs 4".

* You could search for 4" Infinity or Polk components, but I doubt if you would find any readily
Thanks! Any other recommendations for 4" compos? I'd really like something a little more clear and powerful and I'm willing to have it sourced somehow :P
Oh and also, right now the gto949 coaxials in the rear are in mdf boxes that just tumble all over the place and don't really look good. I was thinking of having fiber glass molds made so that they could be mounted on the rear quarter panels. Thought it would look pretty cool and also sound good. Would this be recommendable? Or should I just have them mounted on an mdf board parcel tray like everyone else?
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Thanks! Any other recommendations for 4" compos? I'd really like something a little more clear and powerful and I'm willing to have it sourced somehow ... should I just have them mounted on an mdf board parcel tray like everyone else?
Focal 100KRS, Rainbow SLX 210, DLS Reference PS4A, MMats Pro 4.0, CDT Audio CL-41/22, Audio Systems MX100, ... Don't be scandalized by the cost!

The MDF parcel tray would be the best. Doesn't take away boot space, and allows the 6x9s to play in native free-air mode.
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Old 19th January 2013, 20:30   #11949
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Focal 100KRS, Rainbow SLX 210, DLS Reference PS4A, MMats Pro 4.0, CDT Audio CL-41/22, Audio Systems MX100, ... Don't be scandalized by the cost!

The MDF parcel tray would be the best. Doesn't take away boot space, and allows the 6x9s to play in native free-air mode.
So they sound better that way? Without any enclosure? Lol I'll check them out
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I have an Alpine cde-134ebt with 3 parametric equalizer. Have JBL GTO1004 with JBL front door speakers and rear ovals on a plank. Front set to midrange from amp crossover settings as they are 5.25", rear set to full range flat. Earlier my Head Unit was Pioneer FH6050UB with 7 band graphic EQ which was a boon to equalize freq according to my Indica Vista acoustics. Bass used to be very deep and prominent as well. Alpine head unit is wonderful, but the bass that extends for Indian instruments, like dholak, dhol which has low bass as well as mid bass are not so prominent now. I have an extra RCA for a SUB. My concern is, should I go for an additional monoblock amp OR connect front and rear on head unit's power MOSFETs removing 4 channel amp and connect a JBL 8" sub on a small amp?

Any Audiophiles who have experimented on this, please comment, your suggestions are welcome.
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I have an Alpine cde-134ebt with 3 parametric equalizer. Have JBL GTO1004 with JBL front door speakers and rear ovals on a plank. Front set to midrange from amp crossover settings as they are 5.25", rear set to full range flat. Earlier my Head Unit was Pioneer FH6050UB with 7 band graphic EQ which was a boon to equalize freq according to my Indica Vista acoustics. Bass used to be very deep and prominent as well. Alpine head unit is wonderful, but the bass that extends for Indian instruments, like dholak, dhol which has low bass as well as mid bass are not so prominent now. I have an extra RCA for a SUB. My concern is, should I go for an additional monoblock amp OR connect front and rear on head unit's power MOSFETs removing 4 channel amp and connect a JBL 8" sub on a small amp?

Any Audiophiles who have experimented on this, please comment, your suggestions are welcome.
Run front compos on 2-channels of JBL 1004 and bridge the other 2-channels of the amp and drive a good 12" sub. Let the rears run off the HU.
At the amp, tune the LPF and HPF at 80Hz for the sub and the fronts respectively.
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... Front set to midrange from amp crossover settings as they are 5.25" ...
HPF at the amp to 80Hz, though it really doesn't matter as those speakers don't significantly reproduce anything lower than that.

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... Earlier my Head Unit was Pioneer FH6050UB with 7 band graphic EQ which was a boon to equalize freq according to my Indica Vista acoustics. ...
Please set the equalizer to flat. You are only setting a biased preference to your taste, and not to compensate for the acoustics. Acoustics compensation is only an assumption on your part; one needs better instrumentation to sense to actually sense it. Nothing wrong with biased preference, but first check what the system is capable of without artificial influence.

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... My concern is, should I go for an additional monoblock amp OR connect front and rear on head unit's power MOSFETs removing 4 channel amp and connect a JBL 8" sub on a small amp? ...
Nitrous-anna gave the right config. Fronts on 2 channels, sub on other 2 bridged, rear on HU. Play around with sub phase and positioning till the sub bass integrates well with front mid-bass. Even with both mid-bass (HPF) and sub (LPF) at 80Hz, there is a substantial overlap that you can benefit from. Raising the sub LPF to, say, 120Hz will bolster the tabla/dholak, but it just might pull the front image a bit towards you. Try it.
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I currently have a JBL X424 2ch amp that is placed under the passenger seat and drives the amp in the boot. I have purchased a Focal Solid4 amp to drive the speakers and will be installing it shortly.

I would just like to know whether it would be a good idea to install this under the driver's seat. Rather, it would be best if someone could tell me the downsides of installing this amp in this particular location, as opposed to in the boot, specially with respect to heat issues, and anything else that I may need to be careful about. Thanks.
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Rather, it would be best if someone could tell me the downsides of installing this amp in this particular location, as opposed to in the boot, specially with respect to heat issues, and anything else that I may need to be careful about. Thanks.
Hi. My installer also fitted the amp under the front passenger seat. I do not notice any heating issue with this location. Infact my HU heats up more that worries me to an extent.

My query: I also have an JBL x424 2-channel amp driving JBL 1150 sub. Amp is connected to Sub output of HU. Also got two Sony 3-way powered directly by my Pioneer HU.

I notice that the woofer sound is more prominent than speaker sound. This causes only bass to be heard most of the times & I feel that the sound is not balanced properly. I tried changing equilizer but did not help much. Any settings that I can do from existing set up?
Any HPF or SLA settings? Can I now connect my speakers as well to amp?

My HU is Pionner 4590BT.
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Hi. My installer also fitted the amp under the front passenger seat. I do not notice any heating issue with this location. Infact my HU heats up more that worries me to an extent.

My query: I also have an JBL x424 2-channel amp driving JBL 1150 sub. Amp is connected to Sub output of HU. Also got two Sony 3-way powered directly by my Pioneer HU.

I notice that the woofer sound is more prominent than speaker sound. This causes only bass to be heard most of the times & I feel that the sound is not balanced properly. I tried changing equilizer but did not help much. Any settings that I can do from existing set up?
Any HPF or SLA settings? Can I now connect my speakers as well to amp?

My HU is Pionner 4590BT.
You can try adjusting the gain settings on the amp. They are controlled by a couple of screws on the amp. They are called the input level and crossover frequency control. The manual has instructions on how to adjust them. In fact, you will find a lot of help regarding the same on this forum as well as elsewhere on the Internet.

That should solve your problem.
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