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Old 9th September 2009, 11:54   #1
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Am here again as usual with my doubts!. in my santro, i have a
pioneer 5050 usb player
pioneer gm-x374 4 channel 400 watts amp
800 watts pioneer subwoofer
300 watts pioneer co axials
my amplifier's 2 channels are bridged to power my 800 watts subwoofer which is pretty old and the rubber has started showing signs of aging. the other 2 channels are used for pioneer co axials. right now the system sounds good with a descent punch. but now i plan to upgrade my system in step by step manner. so in the initial phase, i want to upgrade my subwoofer. can u sugest the best possible and the maximum possible subwoofer for my amplifier. in future, i ll be using the the amp to power my co axials and front components and then i ll get a new amp to power the sub. so friends please suggest me an subwoofer keeping all this in mind.
i would like to know, if its possible to power an subwoofer with all 4 channels of my amp(sorry if its a stupid question!)
friends, thanks in advance
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Old 9th September 2009, 12:25   #2
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  1. Please tell us about your budget and we can help you out with selecting a subwoofer.
  2. Yes it is possible to connect a DVC sub to all four channels of your amplifier but that isnt a very good idea.
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  1. Please tell us about your budget and we can help you out with selecting a subwoofer.
  2. Yes it is possible to connect a DVC sub to all four channels of your amplifier but that isnt a very good idea.

Sorry if its a Off topic, But can we bridge all the 4 Channels to Power a Single SVC Sub ??
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these are the info's about my amp:

Maximum Output Power 4 x 70 W oder 2 x 200 W oder 2 x 70 W + 1 x 150 W

DIN power output (W)
(DIN45324, +B = 14.4V) 4 x 45 or 2 x 100

Cont. power output (RMS),
14.4V (20-20kHz/4ohms) 4 x 35 W

Cont. power output (RMS),
14.4V (20-20kHz/2ohms) 4 x 50 W

Cont. power output (RMS),
14.4V (Bridged 4 ohms) 2 x 100 W

Frequency response 10 - 45.000 Hz


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  1. Please tell us about your budget and we can help you out with selecting a subwoofer.
  2. Yes it is possible to connect a DVC sub to all four channels of your amplifier but that isnt a very good idea.
1. budget around 5000. but not more than 5000. i dont need a tube type subwoofer.
2. in what sense you dont suggest this? will it spoil the amplifier? or sub?

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Sorry if its a Off topic, But can we bridge all the 4 Channels to Power a Single SVC Sub ??
even i have the same doubt, if it helps me get more punch

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JBL GT series subs starts from 2600 bucks in Bangalore grey market.
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I was considering something on the same lines to replace my "boomy" bass tube - so I'll rephrase the question a little:

What subs should be considered for a SQ upgrade in an ICE setup with a 150-200W RMS amp (to power the sub) ?

Do sealed encolsures work good with 150W RMS or is ported the way to go ?

The JBL GT series is the most obvious sub but there must be other options that can work well with 150-200W RMS.
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JBL GT series subs starts from 2600 bucks in Bangalore grey market.
gt series? any idea about jbl cs1215? its 1100w subwoofer. but the question is, will my amp support this?
what will be the maximum wattage subwoofer i can put on this amp?

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gt series? any idea about jbl cs1215? its 1100w subwoofer. but the question is, will my amp support this?
what will be the maximum wattage subwoofer i can put on this amp?

Ofcourse your Amp can support this but you ll be underpowering your Sub.
The CS1215 pumps about 250W RMS and since its an SVC, you can only bridge 2 Channels (150W) of your 4 CH Amp and power it.

Either get a 250 W DVC Sub and power it by Bridging all your 4 Ch to 1 Ch @ 4 Ohm (~ 300W RMS)
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Get a 150 - 200 W RMS SVC Sub (Try importing from US - u ll find plenty of options)

P.S: I am not be 100% Accurate
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No idea mate as CS series is quite old and not available in grey now days, mostly they keep GT and few GTO series.And anyways GT is better then CS series.
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althaaf-as you will upgrade to a mono later get a JBL GTO1214/ Polk DB 1240 and put it ported enclosure later when you get a mono you may put it into a sealed enclosure.

As I said a DVC can be connected to all four channels by bridging two channels and powering each coil seperately but it isnt a good idea as it is difficult to power each coil equally which can lead to a damaged coil.

Mi10-It is not possible to connect a SVC sub to all four channels of a amp.

Crackedhead-A ID12V3 can work well with 200wrms.

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Either get a 250 W DVC Sub and power it by Bridging all your 4 Ch to 1 Ch @ 4 Ohm (~ 300W RMS)
Can you explain just how would bridge a 4 channel to 1 channel ?
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Ofcourse your Amp can support this but you ll be underpowering your Sub.
The CS1215 pumps about 250W RMS and since its an SVC, you can only bridge 2 Channels (150W) of your 4 CH Amp and power it.

Either get a 250 W DVC Sub and power it by Bridging all your 4 Ch to 1 Ch @ 4 Ohm (~ 300W RMS)
OR
Get a 150 - 200 W RMS SVC Sub (Try importing from US - u ll find plenty of options)

P.S: I am not be 100% Accurate
i dont mind underpowering the sub right now, coz in future i ll be getting a better amp dedicated for the sub. so i want a future proof sub!
250w dvc? how much will one such cost? and brands or models to suggest?
i hope a dvc 250w setup will be better than a 200wsvc. any jbl or pioneer model in ur suggestion?

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No idea mate as CS series is quite old and not available in grey now days, mostly they keep GT and few GTO series.And anyways GT is better then CS series.
oh, this is what i wanted to know, so i exclude the cs series from my list. but mate, i got a doubt, i saw an add in overdrive aug 2009 edition where its said that they r just introducing cs1215! so got a bit confused, any way cs series is out of my list.
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DVC sub is real pain in India you wont get anything and available things are beyond 12K, i got myself Infinity REF 1062 from US afer banging my head for almost 1 month here n there.Saw somewhere in team bhp itself that POLK db1240dvc is available for 6500, try getting this directly from grey or some dealer insted of car audio installer.

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DVC sub is real pain in India you wont get anything and available things are beyond 12K, i got myself Infinity REF 1062 from US afer banging my head for almost 1 month here n there.Saw somewhere in team bhp itself that POLK db1240dvc is available for 6500, try getting this directly from grey or some dealer insted of car audio installer.
friend, i recently found that pioneer ts-w1208d2 and ts-w1208d4 are available for 4500/ with bill and warranty! how about this? its a 1400w subwoofer.
i guess polk db1240 dvc will be a better option. right?
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Dont go by Peak values even RMS values are bit beefed up, Pioneer herad that they gives headace rather than bass.
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