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Old 2nd October 2009, 17:59   #1
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Question ICE for Baleno EDIT: Stage 1 complete

Hi guys,

I have Kenwood(KDC MP-4009) stock music system(CD player) setup in my Baleno VXi with 4 speakers(dont know the specifications).

My question is Can I add an AMP and a SUB to this existing setup as I need a little high DB level? If yes, please suggest. My budget is 10K.

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yes you can.
Add a 4 channel amp ( blaupunkt gt4 mk2 / jbl 4 channel - dunno what model no.)
and jbl gt5 sub.

Should be yours for around 9k.
1k etc for wiring.
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yes you can.
Add a 4 channel amp ( blaupunkt gt4 mk2 / jbl 4 channel - dunno what model no.)
and jbl gt5 sub.

Should be yours for around 9k.
1k etc for wiring.
Thanks Abhinav, do you recommend any good reliable shops in New Delhi?
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This is what I did for my Vxi, originally same set-up as yours.
The OE speakers are rubbish, scrap them. I did not have the original Kenwood CD player as my Vxi came with a Kenwood cassette player. Put in a Pioneer CD with pre-outs. Connected them to a JBL 4-channel amp, rear speakers in the deck replaced with JBL co-axial ovals and front with JBL co-axial rounds.
I'm very happy with the sound, the bass is excellent, but then I was never a fan of gut-wrenching bass from a sub, plus did not want the hassle of separate sub-box taking up place in my trunk. The sound is like a concert-hall on wheels.
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If you haven't changed the speakers.
I would advice you the same.


Start from scratch.
Go for HU + Front Components + Rear 6x9 upgrade.
After that add a 4 channel amp and a sub.
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This is what I did for my Vxi, originally same set-up as yours.
The OE speakers are rubbish, scrap them. I did not have the original Kenwood CD player as my Vxi came with a Kenwood cassette player. Put in a Pioneer CD with pre-outs. Connected them to a JBL 4-channel amp, rear speakers in the deck replaced with JBL co-axial ovals and front with JBL co-axial rounds.
I'm very happy with the sound, the bass is excellent, but then I was never a fan of gut-wrenching bass from a sub, plus did not want the hassle of separate sub-box taking up place in my trunk. The sound is like a concert-hall on wheels.
But I am pretty satisfied with the Kenwood system currently installed, nice quality. May be your's was an older version. Do you still recommend to change the speakers?

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If you haven't changed the speakers.
I would advice you the same.


Start from scratch.
Go for HU + Front Components + Rear 6x9 upgrade.
After that add a 4 channel amp and a sub.
That will exceed my budget . Can you give me the prices for HU + Front Components + Rear 6x9??
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Depends on how you want to spend.

HU - a decent one could set you aback by 6-7k
Front components - you can go for jbl gto 608c - 4k grey or gt5 something - 3-4k
Rear 6x9 , jbl gto 938 - 3.2k grey
So that comes to be around 15k.

Plus later add a Blaupunkt GT4 mkii - 5k
JBL GT5 sub - 4k ( not sure).
Wiring + Some damping + Installation - 6k

You are good to go within 30k

I know i exceeded the budget but you did not read the statutory warning before posting
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Depends on how you want to spend.

HU - a decent one could set you aback by 6-7k
Front components - you can go for jbl gto 608c - 4k grey or gt5 something - 3-4k
Rear 6x9 , jbl gto 938 - 3.2k grey
So that comes to be around 15k.

Plus later add a Blaupunkt GT4 mkii - 5k
JBL GT5 sub - 4k ( not sure).
Wiring + Some damping + Installation - 6k

You are good to go within 30k

I know i exceeded the budget but you did not read the statutory warning before posting
I will go with your earlier suggestion. Will install a 4-channel AMP (JBL or Blaupunkt) and a JBL GT5 SUB.
I dont want to overspend coz have already spent a lot on buying the car .
So does that sound good??
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Hi Abhinav,
I am getting the below items on ebay:
  1. JBL Amplifier GT5-A604 600-Watt 4-Channel Full-Range - Rs 5899.00 (eBay India: JBL Amplifier GT5-A604 600-Watt 4-Channel Full-Range (item 250505081140 end time 04-Oct-2009 17:19:55 IST))
  2. JBL GT5-205 2-Way Coaxial Full-Range Speaker - Rs 1899.00 (eBay India: JBL GT5-205 2-Way Coaxial Full-Range Speaker (item 250505081107 end time 04-Oct-2009 17:19:52 IST))
Can you please check the links and let me know if these are the products you are referring to and should I go ahead buying the products?

Thanks.
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But I am pretty satisfied with the Kenwood system currently installed, nice quality. May be your's was an older version. Do you still recommend to change the speakers?
Keep the kenwood CD, but check to see it has pre-outs, otherwise you can't connect an amplifier.
Stock speakers are also Kenwood, but really very crappy if they're the round 6" that were used by Maruti as OE. Take them out and you'll see visually right away.
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The links look fine.
But why a coaxial.
Go for a component system.
You'll always go for it over the co-axial.
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Keep the kenwood CD, but check to see it has pre-outs, otherwise you can't connect an amplifier.
Stock speakers are also Kenwood, but really very crappy if they're the round 6" that were used by Maruti as OE. Take them out and you'll see visually right away.
Filcord, Yes they are round 6" speakers.

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The links look fine.
But why a coaxial.
Go for a component system.
You'll always go for it over the co-axial.
What's the difference between a coaxial and a component system?
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What's the difference between a coaxial and a component system?
The main difference is that for co-axial, you can mount the speaker in the existing location without too much cutting. in my case, the front speakers went in the normal location, and for the rears I had to cut a bigger hole for the ovals in the rear deck.

Component speakers are two separate components. One will go in the usual place and you require to cut an additional hole somewhere for the tweeter.

That's the main reason I did not go component. Wanted to minimise cutting in my car.
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Its not necessary to cut hole for placing tweeters. components give far better clean sound than coax ones. go for a component set for front (4k), put in a coax in rear for rear fill (2k) (or leave present ones for time being) add a 4 channel amplifier (7k) and power the components with 2 channels and put in a sub (3k) in other two channels bridged. dont cut big hole for 6x9 in rear tray. wiring (2k)

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Its not necessary to cut hole for placing tweeters. components give far better clean sound than coax ones. go for a component set for front (4k), put in a coax in rear for rear fill (2k) (or leave present ones for time being) add a 4 channel amplifier (7k) and power the components with 2 channels and put in a sub (3k) in other two channels bridged. dont cut big hole for 6x9 in rear tray. wiring (2k)
Thanks a lot Gigy .Could you please gimme the exact product names of the below items, it would be a little easier for me to search
1. Component set for front (4k)
2. Coax in rear for rear fill (2k)
3. 4 channel amplifier (7k)
4. Sub (3k)
5. wiring (2k)
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