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Old 30th November 2013, 16:05   #16
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I have a few questions :

1) Would one need to upgrade the battery for such an install? Any clue of adverse effects if installed with stock battery ?

2) I'm reading prices like 7-9k per screen + installation! How would an android tablet for each head-rest be as an alternative? Viable ?

3) Safety-wise : Is it considered unsafe incase of a crash scenario, when the rear passengers would be thrown forwards ?
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Old 30th November 2013, 16:36   #17
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Let the car be. I really don't understand the point of fitting screens in a small space like a headrest. Don't we already spend too much time at home and office with our eyes glued to either the pc monitor or television screen or the mobile phone!! Why extend this unhealthy obsession to our cars too???
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Let the car be. I really don't understand the point of fitting screens in a small space like a headrest. Don't we already spend too much time at home and office with our eyes glued to either the pc monitor or television screen or the mobile phone!! Why extend this unhealthy obsession to our cars too???
Well, it's for my 7 year old daughter. During long drives she has this habit of standing between the driver and passenger seat. Scolding works for a few times but she forgets often. Having this could help with her being seated behind the seat. Hopefully!!
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Well, it's for my 7 year old daughter. During long drives she has this habit of standing between the driver and passenger seat. Scolding works for a few times but she forgets often. Having this could help with her being seated behind the seat. Hopefully!!
Thats the problem with every child of this age group. Apart from distractions it not safe to stand between the seats. I guess your purpose is to play movies to keep the child busy. This has it own share of problems.
1 Co passengers (Specially grown-ups) might not be interested in watching cartoon etc
2.You wont be able to enjoy music
3.The sound of movie might distract the driver.

Why not buy a tablet, load lots of movies and games give it to your daughter. She will be more than happy than just watching a movie over a fixed screen. Additionally the other rear co passenger if an adult wont be forced to watch a cartoon or similar. It will keep your HU system free for music. You can always fix it the the rear of front seat

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The default system can be connected via aux if needed.
No mess up with wires, warranty etc.
It can be easily moved from one car to another.

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... 1) Would one need to upgrade the battery for such an install? ...
No. The current consumption is very low. The display technology is the same as used in tablets, so ...

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... 2) I'm reading prices like 7-9k per screen + installation! How would an android tablet for each head-rest be as an alternative? Viable ? ...
Viable, but an overkill. One doesn't get a decent tablet + mounting in that budget

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... 3) Safety-wise : Is it considered unsafe incase of a crash scenario, ...
Shouldn't they be wearing seat belts? Small children are supposed to be made to sit in car seats - it is mandatory in most countries with sensible driving practices. In India, consciousness is lacking, and it is not uncommon to see the father driving with kid in his lap. Needless to say neither is restrained by a seat belt.

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... I really don't understand the point of fitting screens in a small space like a headrest. ...
The headrests are designed to accept a 7" (diagonal) screen insert

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... she has this habit of standing between the driver and passenger seat. Scolding works for a few times but she forgets often. ...
Most children do that, considering their relatively limited attention span (*not* ADD as some teachers tend to term it). Making them watch a video may not be the right carrot to learning discipline. Reading a book maybe a better thing to do. However, please consider that constantly looking at a small area in such conditions causes a lot of eye-strain. In some, it is bad enough to cause headache and nausea.

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... Why not buy a tablet, load lots of movies and games give it to your daughter. ...
That is even worse than watching a cartoon movie playing from a DVD! You would be making them get addicted to computing devices and playing games rather early in life. This usually comes at the cost of social skills. On the other hand, keeping them busy in a conversation is not distracting for a driver. The main problem is not having anything to converse on, or being preoccupied in one's own thoughts. Children need participation, not abdication of participation to electronic devices.
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That is even worse than watching a cartoon movie playing from a DVD! You would be making them get addicted to computing devices and playing games rather early in life. This usually comes at the cost of social skills. On the other hand, keeping them busy in a conversation is not distracting for a driver. The main problem is not having anything to converse on, or being preoccupied in one's own thoughts. Children need participation, not abdication of participation to electronic devices.
Right said DerAlte There is no substitute to interactions of parent and child. In today's world, travelling and vacations is one of the best time to interact with your children. A whole new thread can be dedicated to this. Then why even choosing the lesser evil, the dvd player. Books and human interactions are the best way out. Buckle up the child for safety and preventing them from standing between the front seats.
But alas if human interaction were that simple whats the need for DVD players/headrest screen at all.
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Shouldn't they be wearing seat belts? Small children are supposed to be made to sit in car seats - it is mandatory in most countries with sensible driving practices. In India, consciousness is lacking, and it is not uncommon to see the father driving with kid in his lap. Needless to say neither is restrained by a seat belt.
Okay. Two years back we had the car seat and it was easy to put her on that with some toys to keep her busy. Now, she has learnt how to open the seat belt and come out, so you can imagine the rest. Another point, I never let her travel in the front passenger seat for obvious reasons.

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That is even worse than watching a cartoon movie playing from a DVD! You would be making them get addicted to computing devices and playing games rather early in life. This usually comes at the cost of social skills. On the other hand, keeping them busy in a conversation is not distracting for a driver. The main problem is not having anything to converse on, or being preoccupied in one's own thoughts. Children need participation, not abdication of participation to electronic devices.
Easy said my friend. My kid doesn't make any conversation properly without eye-contact. Picture this: If I am doing some work, and she wants to ask a question, I will have to stop that work and look at her to listen to the question. I believe its natural for kids at this age. In the car, she tends to come close to my head from behind to talk to me which is very distracting and dangerous too. The problem with the iPad is that she still sits or stand in the middle to use it. Since, it has touch interaction, it is impossible to fix it behind the seat as then she will pull it off within a few minutes.

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But alas if human interaction were that simple whats the need for DVD players/headrest screen at all.
Yes, thats my point exactly. While driving, I need to concentrate hard especially on highways. My experience on highways is that when I drive at a sedate speed of say 70 - 80 km/hr, I don't feel too tired at the end of the journey. If I try doing around 100 - 120 km/hr, at the end of the journey, I am so tired that by the time I reach the destination, I just need to get into bed and sleep for many hours. Thats why, I rarely go above 90 km/hr. And with family on board, its always 70/80.

The RD system I had mentioned in the earlier post, can be installed without cutting any wires. They will install it and simply provide a plug for the cigarrette lighter connection. So, not worried about any messing with wires, or even the danger of short-circuit/fuses etc.
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... But alas if human interaction were that simple whats the need for DVD players/headrest screen at all.
Do you realize adults in the rear seat also need entertainment on long journeys? That is where the market is, and that is why such products are available. It is not limited to children watching cartoon movies.

Human interaction: consider this (human tendencies being the same all over the world) how do parents - in countries with strict driving laws - keep their children constrained in car seats? The rule is linked with a child's height, i.e. IIRC all children less than 4'6" (or some such figure related to the seat belt arrangement) must be strapped into child seat even for low-speed journeys within city. Wondering how to keep them sitting in the car seat is not an option there. It is also a coincidence that the heat-rest back DVD screens are also not so popular in those countries. Of course, this subject is a matter of a separate thread - I don't want to deviate from the thread subject.
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What we do.

1) Kid always in the Rear.
2) Always have him in a carseat (presently the booster seat since he is now of age 5)
3) Give him my android motorolla zoom tablet to play games once a week (fridays) for about 2-3 hrs so that he is not addicted to it and yet gets the positive benifits and computing skills and also the touch and feel of tablet. The list of games - both educational and also those just for fun is huge and is something that I don't want him to miss out on either.
4) We let him play with the tablet when we go on drives in excess of 3 hrs. Sometimes we take even 12hrs plus long drives in a single day. We do not go in for him watching a movie on the tablet as it would be worse for the eye in a moving vehicle. Conversation and looking out works for a while but after a point something that the kid can do on his / her own would be required. Maybe later at a higher age we will figure out ebooks on kindle rather than games.
5) I presently drive myself and don't have a driver so have not considered the headrest mounted screens but do intend to get myself one fitted behind the passenger side seat as and when I get a driver. But it will probably be just a Holder for a good tablet rather than a screen. Somehow the idea of watching movies in the vehicle does not really appeal to me too much.
6) More than the headrest mounted screens I find the ones in the current german vehicles where the screens are mounted on the back side of the front seat rbody ather than on the headrest itself more classy and better angled for most vehicles.
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Bumping up a VERY old Thread as my question seems relevant here.
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I want to have a single unit of headrest mounted DVD player with a screen. I do not want just the screen, but the whole unit to be in the DVD player, something like this.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/7-Inc...234216689.html

Has anyone ever got something like this done? Is it possible for our cars and any issues that should be kept in mind?

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... I want to have a single unit of headrest mounted DVD player with a screen. I do not want just the screen, but the whole unit to be in the DVD player, something like this. ...
This is available in the accessories shops on Mission Road and other places. They install it for you. The Headrest fabric and foam is cut from the rear to install it. Power is drawn from behind the dash. You can also check on eBay, Snapdeal etc. "Headrest DVD player".
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I would suggest & recommend to fit Concept Headrest screens. I sourced it from US through Amazon.com. It is one of the fine quality screens available with-in budget. See the website http://www.conceptbuy.com/. Also there is Youtube review available just search Concept CLD-700 there.

I have been using this screens past 3 years in my Tata Safari and absolutely happy with its quality & functioning. The best part is you can easily change the cover of these screens as per your seat covers.

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I would suggest & recommend to fit Concept Headrest screens. I sourced it from US through Amazon.com. It is one of the fine quality screens available with-in budget. See the website http://www.conceptbuy.com/. Also there is Youtube review available just search Concept CLD-700 there.

I have been using this screens past 3 years in my Tata Safari and absolutely happy with its quality & functioning. The best part is you can easily change the cover of these screens as per your seat covers.
These are only monitors right? Or am I missing something? My requirement is more of a complete unit, the player included in the headrest. I checked the website and I feel its only monitors, could you please confirm? Thanks!!
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These are only monitors right? Or am I missing something? My requirement is more of a complete unit, the player included in the headrest. I checked the website and I feel its only monitors, could you please confirm? Thanks!!
It has both products. Monitor including DVD player & separate monitor. In my car I have put 1 monitor with DVD player/USB/SDCard and other only monitor. The master is connected to slave. See the product section of website in detail. Generally model # starts with CLD will have build in DVD player/USB/Card Slot & with CLS is only monitor.

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Also available on eBay and Snapdeal. One gets better choice, and sometimes better prices, in the accessories shops or National Market.
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