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Old 10th August 2010, 08:17   #226
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Morel Ultimo 12" ?
It indeed is the Morel Ultimo 12"

I ve went just by the review in international forums and hence i have absolutely no justification on why i picked this one instead of ID max or any other competing sub.

But for now, i am just loving the looks of this Israeli beauty (I meant the sub, you pervert )

The handcrafted Carbon fibre in cone area is awesome.

Now the bad parts;
  • I got an 2 ohm sub instead of a 4 ohm which i had ordered. But luckily my amp could support both 4 ohm and 2 ohm load at same power levels.
  • Budget part - with just HU+Midbass+Sub+Mono Amp has managed to cross the 'Big 1' and i am still not complete !!!
  • So for now the midrange takes a back seat. Will be getting my tweeters by Sept second week. Till then i am hunting for a spare tweeter, lets see what materializes.

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The last one, to be taken in lighter vein (No offense meant)
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Old 10th August 2010, 10:16   #227
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Congrats!! Your system is shaping up nicely. I check out this thread everyday first thing in the morning. Now quickly find your tweeters and let us know initial listening experiences.
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Old 10th August 2010, 10:18   #228
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Mi10, where are the install pics?
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A very good choice of sub indeed. But beware the output solely depends on the enclosure you use. For the ultimo the best would be to get about 1.25-1.5cu.ft.
There won't be much of difference between 2 or 4 ohm infact the 2 ohm have much lower Le. compared to that of 4ohm. I like that.
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Congrats!! Your system is shaping up nicely. I check out this thread everyday first thing in the morning. Now quickly find your tweeters and let us know initial listening experiences.
Many Thanks Sparkled. I will surely find a way to speed up the whole process

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Mi10, where are the install pics?
Ji, install yet to start. My car will have its third service done this thursday, so i ll be getting on to install after that, sure wil post the pics

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A very good choice of sub indeed. But beware the output solely depends on the enclosure you use. For the ultimo the best would be to get about 1.25-1.5cu.ft.
There won't be much of difference between 2 or 4 ohm infact the 2 ohm have much lower Le. compared to that of 4ohm. I like that.
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Yes, enclosure size is what i am confused about. will have a detailed discussion before installation in this thread.
I really dont know about lower Le, but would have been happy if it was a lower Rs.
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Thanks, Abi
Yes, enclosure size is what i am confused about. will have a detailed discussion before installation in this thread.
I really dont know about lower Le, but would have been happy if it was a lower Rs.
If you need 4ohm ultimo, well simple solution is to get another 2ohm and wire it for 4ohm
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If you need 4ohm ultimo, well simple solution is to get another 2ohm and wire it for 4ohm
LOL, and hunt for a Amp that can give 2000 W RMS @ 4 ohm load

Can someone give pointers to nice read on enclosure. What are the parameters to be considerd Qts, Qtc, Le - i know nothing about these, will this help me determine the enclosure size ??

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LOL, and hunt for a Amp that can give 2000 W RMS @ 4 ohm load

Can someone give pointers to nice read on enclosure. What are the parameters to be considerd Qts, Qtc, Le - i know nothing about these, will this help me determine the enclosure size ??
Enclosure design is slightly complicated and tricky. I started with enclosure design with some trial and error 13yrs back. One would need to understand each parameter of the subwoofer in order to come to the conclusion of what the right size of enclosure could be. Sealed enclosure could be simpler to learn but complications are there and it gets more when one goes for ported, bandpass, bass horn, transmission line. But simple parameters like Fs, Qts, Vas and cone size are enough to conclude the enclosure size. But, more importantly depends on the xmax, sensitivity, what's the freq. the sub can handle, CMS.
Sealed enclosure size can control the freq. from the sub and size depends on what one is looking at low and smooth response, low and tight, or just some tight punchy bassline.
Could help you with the enclosure size but will depend what you looking at.
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Thanks, Abi

My priorities;
  • Low and tight bass
  • I dont want extended bass response - i want it to be as accurate and as fast as possible
  • more importantly i own a hatch, so there are inherent limitations with respect to enclosure size.
My previous sub, a GZ-XD AL performed just the opposite in an 1.15 cu.ft enclosure. It was loud, had quite an extended response and was didnt go very low. Not that its bad, but didnt tick on all my boxes. Infact it was quite efficient sub as well, i was giving it only 300 odd rms and still it almost took out my..err..i10's boot
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Thanks, Abi

My priorities;
  • Low and tight bass
  • I dont want extended bass response - i want it to be as accurate and as fast as possible
  • more importantly i own a hatch, so there are inherent limitations with respect to enclosure size.
My previous sub, a GZ-XD AL performed just the opposite in an 1.15 cu.ft enclosure. It was loud, had quite an extended response and was didnt go very low. Not that its bad, but didnt tick on all my boxes. Infact it was quite efficient sub as well, i was giving it only 300 odd rms and still it almost took out my..err..i10's boot
Getting low and smoother freq range from sub is ideally what I look at and design the enclosure keep that in mind. Latter one can always look at adding a bit of EQ to make it sound tigher and punchier depending on the type of music one plays. That way one could have smoother low end when listening to some of the great old classic tracks plus it's easier to blend it with the front stage. Incase one need the punchier or tighter bass just add a EQ at 40/50hz by upto 2-4db. One can both from one enclosure.
Let me know when you need the enclosure size.

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Hey Mi10, if you want to go to Power Zone send me a PM, I can get him introduced to you too as I did for Gilead. He is really a very good installer and can help a lot in your setup. I am free in the weekends so let me know.
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Hey Mi10, if you want to go to Power Zone send me a PM, I can get him introduced to you too as I did for Gilead. He is really a very good installer and can help a lot in your setup. I am free in the weekends so let me know.
Yup sure. Once i decide the date, i ll call you bro. Most of the things are in place actually.
I would need to get the Amp racks, enclosure for sub, probly the tweeter and sub wiring done.

Rest is all in place, including the POwer and Ground cables for Woofer and Tweeter.
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Pravin, see if you can get the Infinity's dual sub ported enclosure (if you are running 2 subs) or the single ported enclosure. The factory build quality is fantastic. Hunt around GP Road and you may get lucky. I don't know anything about the precise calculations though.
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... POwer and Ground cables for Woofer and Tweeter.
Errrr .... Huh?
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Errrr .... Huh?
Means, power and ground cable for the Amps which will be powering the Woofer and Tweeter .

sorry for the confusion
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