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Old 13th April 2010, 17:40   #46
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You can also look at Infinity kappa 120.9 sub, can handle 400rms with ease, has high spec, has a very smooth response and can be had for less than 15k.
ID subs can dig low and sound tight but I wouldn't suggest to power them more than 350rms.

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They are suppose to be one of the finest SQ amps especially signature Edition (SE). However pick any of those Arc amps and you will be more than happy. They have good tonal quality. One can never go wrong with the Arcs.
Aaah! the SE's, if you refer to the manual you can find Robert Zeff makes a mention "The finest amplifier I have ever made". That says a lot. If only I had the cash for it . On the bright side even the the KAR series KS 300.4 is designed by him, maybe not be the finest but still a Zeff design.


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The Clarus series quality exceeds a lot of counterparts which costs much more like Hertz MLK 165 and so on. They are very good set of speakers
They are good, I got to read abt them, but never came across a full fledged review till date.

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You can also look at Infinity kappa 120.9 sub, can handle 400rms with ease, has high spec, has a very smooth response and can be had for less than 15k.
ID subs can dig low and sound tight but I wouldn't suggest to power them more than 350rms.
Have read your review thread, after the ID's this is on the list. What would be the size of ideal sealed enclosure (LxBxH) ?
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Have read your review thread, after the ID's this is on the list. What would be the size of ideal sealed enclosure (LxBxH) ?
You could have the Kappa's anywhere from .8 to 1cu.ft. However like to know if you have any space restriction. IF not, enclosure size can be worked out for both the ID's and Kappa's.
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You could have the Kappa's anywhere from .8 to 1cu.ft. However like to know if you have any space restriction. IF not, enclosure size can be worked out for both the ID's and Kappa's.
Yup I do, all of this going into a Santro boot, wont sealed be a better option ?. For me Sq is priority but I would like some SPL too. How much of SPL difference would be there btw sealed and ported boxes ?
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Sourcing woofers from the states is not possible, so looking at viable options in India.

The JL would be a great sub to own but it would cost an arm & leg if its to be bought here.
Any Idea of SubWoofer Budget ?
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Yup I do, all of this going into a Santro boot, wont sealed be a better option ?. For me Sq is priority but I would like some SPL too. How much of SPL difference would be there btw sealed and ported boxes ?
Having the sub in ported enclosure will give out around 3db more output compared to the sealed, that's like having a dual Sealed setup. Or in other words 3db more output is double the output that of single sealed subwoofer. Ported enclosure if done right can sound as good as sealed, along with the help of EQ too. Sealed enclosure usually gives out more flatter response compared to Ported which are tuned at a particular freq that can add good low amount low end compared to sealed. If not done right they could get more boomy hence we can say they are more complexed. Therefore sealed enclosure is much safer option. When looking out for more output look out for the Sensitivity (SPL) of the sub. Some manufacturers rate it at 1w/1m and some at 2.83V. Higher the sensitivity the louder they will get. Like most pro audio drivers that have higher sensitivity. One example could be the JBL power series P1222 sub that has a sensitivity of 97db but it puts out when running at 1ohm and is rated at 2.83V

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Any Idea of SubWoofer Budget ?
I have a budget of 10 - 15k for the subwoofer.
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Guys, i'm looking for good pair of components for the front stage. The front stage will be powered (passively) by DLS RA20.

Any suggestions ?
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The front stage will be powered (passively) by DLS RA20. Any suggestions ?
Why not DLS? or Infinity Kappa?
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DLS iridium/ ultimate, Morels are good choice, you can also look at the JBL Gti, Alpine SPX pro.
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ID subs can dig low and sound tight but I wouldn't suggest to power them more than 350rms.
No offense, but i don't know how you jumped on the conclusion that one should not feed it more than 350W RMS. I am actually feeding 500W RMS to iDV3 12" and it feels underpowered.

Leave aside that there is one guy in Bombay itself who is feeding more than 500 WRMS (750W RMS i think) to iDQV2, which has lower power handling than iDV3.
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Without considering any brand here on can power a 200 rms with a 1000 rms amp. No issues any where untill it is driven well in the mechincal limits of the sub. If some one is driving a sub with a bigger amp then it is any day better that there is lots of head room. But again one would need very special ear to hear the 1-5 % distortion in the sub section with the sub in the boot of the car !!!!
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No offense, but i don't know how you jumped on the conclusion that one should not feed it more than 350W RMS. I am actually feeding 500W RMS to iDV3 12" and it feels underpowered.

Leave aside that there is one guy in Bombay itself who is feeding more than 500 WRMS (750W RMS i think) to iDQV2, which has lower power handling than iDV3.
It also depends on the enclosure size and type, how low the sub is playing it and it's mechanical limits. In sealed enclosure smaller the enclosure than normal, it would have better power handling.
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Guys, i'm looking for good pair of components for the front stage. The front stage will be powered (passively) by DLS RA20.

Any suggestions ?
The max budget for the components is $500. I have not heard any of these speakers, picked all these after reading their reviews. The speakers I have in mind are (not in order of preference) ...

1. Rainbow SLC 265.25 Kick NG
2. Rainbow CS 265.25 Germanium
3. Rainbow CS 265 Profi Kick
4. DLS Nordica 6.2
5. Hybrid Audio Technologies Clarus c61-2

Ofcourse many would say DLS amp & DLS speaker combo would be killer but when I last heard the Iridium's in fellow member bakiya's car it didnt sound much to my taste, they were very laid back. No doubt they were good and produced quality sound but i felt they lacked some energy / aggression. I read that in terms of energy Rainbow's are better in compariosn to DLS. The HAT brand has won many IASCA championships in recent times, but full fledged review is not available on the clarus models, can we go for this keeping the brand's reputation in mind ?

All these speakers are known to move a lot of air, will they be able to work at their best on Santro door with adequate damping ?

Please advice.
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The max budget for the components is $500. I have not heard any of these speakers, picked all these after reading their reviews. The speakers I have in mind are (not in order of preference) ...

1. Rainbow SLC 265.25 Kick NG
2. Rainbow CS 265.25 Germanium
3. Rainbow CS 265 Profi Kick
4. DLS Nordica 6.2
5. Hybrid Audio Technologies Clarus c61-2

Ofcourse many would say DLS amp & DLS speaker combo would be killer but when I last heard the Iridium's in fellow member bakiya's car it didnt sound much to my taste, they were very laid back. No doubt they were good and produced quality sound but i felt they lacked some energy / aggression. I read that in terms of energy Rainbow's are better in compariosn to DLS. The HAT brand has won many IASCA championships in recent times, but full fledged review is not available on the clarus models, can we go for this keeping the brand's reputation in mind ?

All these speakers are known to move a lot of air, will they be able to work at their best on Santro door with adequate damping ?

Please advice.
I would choose
Rainbow CS 265.25 Germanium
Hybrid Audio Technologies Clarus c61-2

I am myself thinking of getting one of these two.

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I have a budget of 10 - 15k for the subwoofer.
For Sub i think the best for you would be JBL W12 GTi MKII or maybe W15. Great SQ sub Plays very Low and best price for you. You wont get a better deal
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